Again jeff has found a way to delay his exposure to mediocrity. He will continually make excuses for not disclosing his status for being a NBA HEAD COACH. Jeff will continually be an analyst and if he gets lucky an assistant's job. Some will say he's waiting for july 1st when the knicks doesn't own his rights, I say he will continue his ways of being a little smuk of an analyst. What jeff is afraid of finding out is Nobody on another team has ever played under his slow down drag out style , so if he thinks they will immeditely by into his philosophy he has another thing coming. I can see him getting a good start and then as soon as trouble comes and the players tune him out he will pack up his go cart( RE-MODELED HONDA CIVIC) and goes home.

Can someone please tell this guy that Jeff Van Gundy is NO LONGER in the Knicks Organization....

dude...MOVE ON!!!

You know what playa..you right, my bad....it's that the JVG bashing gets tired after a while.

No swish, what i'm tired of is hearing the bashing of laydum, but nobody else thinks that's tireing. I do but i won't say anything against them.

playa layden still works for the knicks dude.

WHEN HE IS NO LONGER THE PROPERTY OF THE KNICKS I WILL STOP TALKING ABOUT HIM, UNTIL THEN HIS NAME KEEPS COMING UP IN THE NEW AND WE STILL OWN HIS RIGHT.

Big smooth listen here, all this lil guy did was copy riley system and then when he played riley's team he beat them . WHY? Because they had better players and the league was still allowing teams to play the bad boy defense. 1 he hasn't showed anyone he can adapt with other players especially young ones, he is known to not have tolerance for them. 2 His offensive set are something to be desired, the guy has zero degree of creactivity. So no one has seen him coach under different circumstances ever. He inherited a veteran team who already knew how to win and close out games so he had all the tools and didn't win squat. Charlotte and a couple others are asking for his services because they have no coach and gundy's record seems promising, but like i said other players have to accept his philosophy that are "NOT NY KNICKS" and that is what hasn't been proven. Vangundy is an assistant coach who is a defensive guru and you guys have been duped to think he can coach both sides of the ball with another team who has never played riley's old system that has been out dated. Vandummy doesn't even know how to have a team run a fast break !

"BigSmooth, trying to reason with Playa about Jeff Van Gundy is total waste of time. Trust me..."-Haha, Pike, thanks for the advice, but I want to say just three things.

"Big smooth listen here, all this lil guy did was copy riley system and then when he played riley's team he beat them . WHY? Because they had better players and the league was still allowing teams to play the bad boy defense."-In the 98-99 strike shortened season the Knicks beat a Miami team that was a 1 seed while the Knicks were an 8 seed. The next year the Knicks won in the semifinals and the Heat started Hardaway, Majerle, Mashburn, Brown, and Zo, with Thorpe, Weatherspoon, Bowen, Lenard, and Carter on the bench while the Knicks had Ward, Houston, Spree, LJ, and Ewing with a bench going 2 deep with Camby and Thomas. The Heat were the deeper and more explosive team. Many times Riley was outcoached by JVG.

"Vandummy doesn't even know how to have a team run a fast break !"-Saying this, it is clear you either lived under a rock during the Knicks finals run in 99 or you just don't watch bball, but once Ewing went down and he wasn't forced to throw the ball to Ewing in the post the Knicks became a great fast break team with Spree and Camby routinely throwing down. The Knicks fast break was absolutely lethal, but got killed by the Spurs because all they did was ram it down the Knicks throats with Duncan and the Admiral.

And before I finish, one more thing caught my eye.
"1 he hasn't showed anyone he can adapt with other players especially young ones, he is known to not have tolerance for them"-Not only is this a poorly constructed sentence, but it is ridiculous. What young players did he have to adapt to or play????? THE KNICKS ALWAYS TRADE THEIR DAMN DRAFT PICK SO WHO IS HE GOING TO DEVELOP? POSTELL? Give me a break man. The Knicks were alwyas trading for veteran players (traded a future pick for Strickland, who they traded for Harrington, that future pick wound up being Tinsley) and JVG never had any young guys to develop. Name me three young guys who he couldn't tolerate. YOu can't

Those were personnel moves made by Layden/Tapscott/Checketts, etc., not him. You have no idea what you're talking about, you're making assumptions as to why people were traded when JVG had zero say in the matter whatsoever. Why would they listen to him? They were always looking for a new coach and when they traded McCarty, if JVG was even the head coach at the time which I don't think, he obviously had little say becuase it could've only been his first or second year as head coach and he woudln't've had a lot of pull.

Walter McCarty and Donnell Harvey (he must be amazing you can't even remember his name), those are your best excuses for why Van Gundy was a bad coach? You're an idiot man, he probably left the organization becuase he was sick of the way Layden/Dolan ran the damn team (i.e. trading younger players for older, overpaid ones). Fact of the matter is, your one reason for why Jeff Van Gundy was a bad coach, disregarding the fact that he took bad teams routinely deep in the playoffs, was because he refused to develop McCarty and Harvey. Is this a joke?

I hate Jeff Van Gundy just as much as Playa. But we did go through a whole 3-4 years debating that.....

Jeff was a big reason why the Knicks never brought along any youth....except Ward. I think Ward stuck around because he's "saved".

No one remembers but Walter McCarthy was killing teams with his defense, rebounding, run/jump ability in the pre-season before he got traded for Chris Mills. Mills was a good player but McCarthy was everything the Knicks need from a small fwd.
Knicks never had a decent pick in the draft cuz they were traded away or just bench holders. I'll never forget what they did to John Wallace. Wallace was a good offensive player. They never let the kid develop even when they had injuries. JVG would just run an even smaller rotation. I think his stay with the Knicks is what totally killed his confidence leading to him being taken off of the NBA map. Camby, and Sprewell saved his butt back in 1999.

After all that....I do agree....Leave it alone dawg...just too much left over anger from that era....it's too deep.

Playing young guys really didn't have anything to do with JVG....its ther New York win now attitude. Riley didn't do it, JVG didn't, Don Chaney didn't give FWilliams any time.