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7/29/2007  8:36 PM
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7/29/2007  9:02 PM
LMFAO!

He said


"The Pentium"


I'm gonna understand that to mean Parthenon

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-29-2007 8:07 PM]
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7/29/2007  9:05 PM
im glad hes finding himself but he is crazy lol
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7/29/2007  9:13 PM
"I don't concentrate on what I can't do well in the off-season I only concentrate on what I do well".


He's also waiting to clear his contract up with Steve & Barry so he can get a deal done with Randy Moss.


What does that mean?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-29-2007 8:14 PM]
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7/29/2007  9:50 PM
It's funny to me whenever a marbury thread comes up, true is like the top 5 poster.
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7/29/2007  10:02 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

"I don't concentrate on what I can't do well in the off-season I only concentrate on what I do well".


He's also waiting to clear his contract up with Steve & Barry so he can get a deal done with Randy Moss.


What does that mean?

He probably means that he couldn't make deals with some guys under the constraints of his current contract with Steve and Barry's.

I think even tho he's a guy that isn't great at expressing himself, you can understand what he's getting at if you WANT TO. If you're only looking to make fun of him and not recognize that he often has trouble clearly expressing his thoughts then you miss what he's saying.

I like when he said that it's not about him but the team and that he's aware of the things people hold against him, but there are 11 other guys on the floor and everyone has to do their part. He did really well expressing himself when he got to answer email questions. You can see that he's no idiot, he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.
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7/29/2007  10:19 PM
Posted by nixluva:

he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

Neither do we. The King's English is British English, which is not exactly entirely in America. Nontheless, what you're really trying to make excuses for is him not being 100% literate. Yet, literacy is often used as one measure of intelligence for people who have had the opportunity to go to school, which Marbury did. So, ultimately, it comes back to Marbury having low intelligence at some basic levels, since we can confirm he's not entirely literate. He has the potential to be more intelligent, which I think is what you really mean to say, but he has not exercised that potential, so ultimately, all criticism he gets for his speaking is justified. This is the main reason he shouldn't speak, or should make the effort to improve.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 29 2007 10:20 PM]
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7/29/2007  10:37 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TrueBlue:

"I don't concentrate on what I can't do well in the off-season I only concentrate on what I do well".


He's also waiting to clear his contract up with Steve & Barry so he can get a deal done with Randy Moss.


What does that mean?

He probably means that he couldn't make deals with some guys under the constraints of his current contract with Steve and Barry's.

I think even tho he's a guy that isn't great at expressing himself, you can understand what he's getting at if you WANT TO. If you're only looking to make fun of him and not recognize that he often has trouble clearly expressing his thoughts then you miss what he's saying.

I like when he said that it's not about him but the team and that he's aware of the things people hold against him, but there are 11 other guys on the floor and everyone has to do their part. He did really well expressing himself when he got to answer email questions. You can see that he's no idiot, he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.


You make a point about him trying to express his thoughts in a literate way. It was actually a decent interview if you look at the body of it from a Marbury perspective. The interview gives credence to the fact he was on something during the Mike D Up show. It doesn't explain why someone who from this country has had the privilege to see one the marvels of the world "The Parthenon", in which many of us will never see it in our lifetime can't remember what it is by name. It's a historical landmark throughout all of mankind's history and he calls it "THE PENTIUM". SHEESH!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-29-2007 9:46 PM]
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7/29/2007  10:40 PM
He probably means Randy Moss's clothing line. I'm surprised he would leave Steve and Barrys
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7/29/2007  11:24 PM
Posted by nixluva:


he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

This is bull**** and it unfairly characterizes "street dudes." Intelligent "street dudes" are coherent.

Marbury's thought process is, at best, circumstantial and tangential.
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7/29/2007  11:26 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by TrueBlue:

"I don't concentrate on what I can't do well in the off-season I only concentrate on what I do well".


He's also waiting to clear his contract up with Steve & Barry so he can get a deal done with Randy Moss.


What does that mean?

He probably means that he couldn't make deals with some guys under the constraints of his current contract with Steve and Barry's.

I think even tho he's a guy that isn't great at expressing himself, you can understand what he's getting at if you WANT TO. If you're only looking to make fun of him and not recognize that he often has trouble clearly expressing his thoughts then you miss what he's saying.

I like when he said that it's not about him but the team and that he's aware of the things people hold against him, but there are 11 other guys on the floor and everyone has to do their part. He did really well expressing himself when he got to answer email questions. You can see that he's no idiot, he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

You make a point about him trying to express his thoughts in a literate way. It was actually a decent interview if you look at the body of it from a Marbury perspective. The interview gives credence to the fact he was on something during the Mike D Up show. It doesn't explain why someone who from this country has had the privilege to see one the marvels of the world "The Parthenon", in which many of us will never see it in our lifetime can't remember what it is by name. It's a historical landmark throughout all of mankind's history and he calls it "THE PENTIUM". SHEESH!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-29-2007 9:46 PM]

Man i've worked for some people that were business geniuses, making more money than you or I can imagine and they happen to be like Steph. Forgetting the right name for things and using the wrong words. It's not a sign of lack of intelligence as Solace put. Some people learn poor verbal habits from those they live with and are raised by. Here in the south you see a lot of that, but the people aren't stupid and they will be offended if you come off like you think they are stupid. Guys like Steph that grew up using street slang and a common vernacular among the underpriviledged and they just can't shake them from their speech patterns.

Often people who grow up in a home where the parents aren't that educated and where education isn't stressed you can have a situation like this. Do you guys even have any concept of what it can be like in the projects and how people sometimes speak? I can't imagine that you guys are talking like this if you have that life experience. Surely you know or have met people just like Steph!

You guys are sounding a bit insensitive to the different life experiences people in this country have. You sound a bit snobbish to me. Don't confuse a persons lack of eloquence with a lack of intellect.

Solace you know what I meant by the "king's english". No need to go into all of that. For many people there verbal skills have been hampered by their life experiences and it doesn't mean that they're stupid. It's a skill and not a testament to a persons IQ. It's quite possible he never really focused on his verbal skills or education in general and spent too much time in the street and playing ball.
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7/29/2007  11:53 PM
He is a different dude. I wish people like him and Dikembe got more attention for what they were doing charity wise though.

Whatever our opinion of him, he's doing great things. Sounds like Isiah challenged him to do this type of work as well.

Interesting that he reached out to Druant to be a part of the "Starbury Movement" and Durant took Nike's money instead.
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Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:


he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

This is bull**** and it unfairly characterizes "street dudes." Intelligent "street dudes" are coherent.

Marbury's thought process is, at best, circumstantial and tangential.

Code I never intended to group ALL guys who are from the street into one group, tho it could be taken that way. Certainly at least SOME guys that spent a good part of their lives on the street and not heavily engrossed in educational pursuits, have a similar style of expressing themselves and a similar problem in expressing themselves well. Not all, but many do.

Code, the way I write here is pretty much how I actually talk everyday. Somehow I get the sense that you don't go around using the word "tangential" when you talk to friends or colleagues at school or work. I don't know you, but I would hope that you realize it's not necessary to basically show off your vocabulary on this forum.

Now i'd like for you to explain how the words you chose should be applied to Steph's thought process? What's "circumstantial" or "tangential" about how Steph thinks or speaks? I don't even know how you could begin to know how Steph thinks, to be able to make a judgement about his thought process in the first place. Has he ever spoken to you personally and told you what his thought process is or are you so perceptive that you picked that up just from his interviews?


[Edited by - nixluva on 07-30-2007 01:26 AM]
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7/30/2007  3:30 AM
I'll say one thing for sure...these Marbury interviews are a lot more entertaining.
Dude's got a screw loose, but I'm lovin' it. I damn near died laughing when he got up in Gus's face. Maybe if Steph does that on the defensive end this year, his man will laugh himself into an asthma attack. THAT's how you get a stop.
Marbs gotta step away from the camera if he wants to be taken seriously, but he's not saying anything bad, so I won't complain.

People won't care about Steph's language or grammar if we're winning. Let them have their fun now and hope we see something in November that will shut them up.
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7/30/2007  5:14 AM
I don't feel the need to use my 12th grade vocabulary book to express thoughts on the internet or in public. I feel as long as you can say what you have to say with confidence and clarity, what is the big deal?

Marbs doesn't always say the right thing, but he also has a camera in his face. Marbs seems to like the camera. It would help if he hired a publisist. I think he doesn't care about that. He wants people to see who he is and not speak through his "people".

Let's remind ourselves he is rich. He can talk the way he wants. He's not an idiot cuz he is a business man of sorts so he is not a retard. Maybe guys should lay off a little, with your broke ass.
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7/30/2007  7:41 AM
Interesting...he ranks whose team it is:

"It's Eddy & Zach's team...then Jamal's...then myself."

He also admits that everyone won't be happy (with Eddy & Zach getting the ball as the 1 and 2 options...then he quotes Steve Francis and "everyone will be getting scraps."

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7/30/2007  8:29 AM
Language is a vehicle for communication. It's used as a form of expression. It's about the person or persons you are speaking to understanding what you are trying to convey. To me that is languages' sole purpose. So that means, how I speak to my friends may be one way and how I speak to other people in different sect of my life may be another. I understood exactly what Marbury was trying to say. It may not have been the way I would have worded my comments but I understood where he was coming from. I think we can be a little too critical and judgmental when it comes to public figures. It's easier to pick out their faults and quickly make harsh judgments then it would be to take some of those same criticisms from our own peers. So imagine yourself in that very same seat. How would you feel if every mistake is judged and picked on. I don't think it's as easy as some would make it out to be. I think there's a saying that goes something like be careful at the finger you point to judge someone because there are at least three fingers pointing back at you. Public figures are people just like we are and have feelings and emotions that can be hurt the same as anyone else. Obviously it bothered/hurt Marbury to hear some of the comments from his other interview. Maybe Marbury was having an off day during his previous interview - maybe sleep deprivation, drinking, etc. Who knows. I do know that this interview was completely different and more like the Marbury that I'm used to seeing. All I know is that some of the things he said really made me take stock of how easily and hurtful words can be. I was guilty of saying something's about Marbury as well.

At the end of the day, I think we are all trying to fulfill some of the same purposes in life; to be happy, raise our families (if we have one) and contribute something positive to society. Marbury is no different. We aren't all going to reach those goals the same way. But that is the very essence that makes us all uniquely different. Unfortunately, our society has a history (in every spectrum) of making fun of differences instead of embracing them.

Yup...that's my 2 cents for the day!
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7/30/2007  9:07 AM
I cannot see anything so terrible about this show.
Steph was OK.
The only think which makes me disinterested in all this - it is not about the Knicks.
Steph is all about himself (my shoes, my charity, my way, my ho...)
I am Knicks fan and Steph is already far away mentally from the team.
So I stopped following him.
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7/30/2007  10:07 AM

Wow, big difference than "Miked up".

Why doe some not like him? The last 10 years he has been depected as a very selfish man on the court. ANd since the court is where it all begins for the players, then so beit.

Much different tone on this interview than in others. The only thing that I think is much different is the coaching that is being done. Notice the angle by which he looks and Gus, then looks even further left as if he is reading a teleprompter. He kind of goes in and out of rehearsed statements.

Is that so wrong, Not really. Isiah really had an effect on the kid and is making him see the big piture. In a way he has been child like and Isiah has showed him that being worth millions can open you up to many cultural experiences and you can help others.

I think steph is finally growing up and is a playful kind of guy when not sullen on the court. Good for him, and good for his charities, and good for the low price sneaker consumer.

But I am a knick fan, and I want it to be good for the team and winning is what this team needs.
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7/30/2007  10:38 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:


he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

This is bull**** and it unfairly characterizes "street dudes." Intelligent "street dudes" are coherent.

Marbury's thought process is, at best, circumstantial and tangential.

Code I never intended to group ALL guys who are from the street into one group, tho it could be taken that way. Certainly at least SOME guys that spent a good part of their lives on the street and not heavily engrossed in educational pursuits, have a similar style of expressing themselves and a similar problem in expressing themselves well. Not all, but many do.

Code, the way I write here is pretty much how I actually talk everyday. Somehow I get the sense that you don't go around using the word "tangential" when you talk to friends or colleagues at school or work. I don't know you, but I would hope that you realize it's not necessary to basically show off your vocabulary on this forum.

Now i'd like for you to explain how the words you chose should be applied to Steph's thought process? What's "circumstantial" or "tangential" about how Steph thinks or speaks? I don't even know how you could begin to know how Steph thinks, to be able to make a judgement about his thought process in the first place. Has he ever spoken to you personally and told you what his thought process is or are you so perceptive that you picked that up just from his interviews?


[Edited by - nixluva on 07-30-2007 01:26 AM]

I'm a cardiothoracic surgeon - you better believe thats how I talk to colleagues. And "tangential" is hardly an esoteric word, so I suggest you read a book. This vocabulary nonsense is your usual song and dance - I shouldn't have to dumb things down for you. If you make such an effort to understand Marbury's drivel, you might as well go the extra mile to consider what I'm saying.

Circumstantial and tangential are self-explanatory clinical terms used in psychiatry. He brings up irrelevant facts and fails to connect them in a unified response. Many times, he fails to even answer the question. Look at Marbury's interview again and compare it to what you would expect from a 9th grader. Don't make excuses and evaluate it objectively.
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