All it does is sugarcoat the Knicks, Liberty and Rangers, no matter how bad things are going for them, and the broadcasters are a bunch of cheerleaders.

If anyone watches YES Network, it's so much more credible, I can't even stress it enough. Every announcer is going to call it exactly the way they see it, and they aren't afraid to express it, because George Steinbrenner and the people who run YES aren't afraid to let them express what they feel is going on.

I bring up YES, because if such a highly regarded team, like the Yankees, can have a television network that has announcers who are equally as critical of the team as they are positive (Again, not hating, I just don't like dishonesty) then why the hell can't MSG be like this.

They showed Marbury the absolute easiest questions on this interview, that will make him look good no matter what, despite the fact that Gus Johnson was asking him a couple of tough questions. Why can't they just become a credible television network. Why can't Dolan just go away? He needs to retire. I'm tired of seeing his ugly ars neck anyway.

Also, just listen to the Michael Kay show and also listen to the Mike and the Mad Dog show. Kay freaking works for the Yankees and he says whatever the heck he wants on his show. Why doesn't he worry about his job security?

Same with Mike and the Mad Dog, who are sponsored by YES, I believe. It's ridiculous.

In addition, Wikipedia offer these ....

In 2003, now-former Yankees bench coach Don Zimmer said some negative things in the media about owner George Steinbrenner. In response, Steinbrenner is rumored to have ordered YES not to show Zimmer on camera during its Yankee cablecasts. [5]


"During the 2005 season, local New York newspapers reported that the post-game questions asked to Yankees manager Joe Torre by reporter Kimberly Jones were being sent to her by top-level team executives (quite possibly on directives from Steinbrenner), and that Torre did not feel comfortable answering them. For the 2006 season, Torre, who had been paid a fee by YES to be interviewed after each Yankees game since the network's inception, did not have a post game interview specifically for the YES Network. YES must now send its reporter to his regular session with other media outlets."

[Edited by - pharzeone on 29-07-2007 03:28 AM]

Rangers team looks great. Their main club just added 2 great centers and their farm system is stacked to the ceiling. What is there to sugarcoat?

Posted by Allanfan20:

Umm, are you forgetting about the Knicks?

Its the off season. They brought in 2 promising rookies and a very good pf. What do you want MSG to say that is bad right now?

no network, especially owned by the same person is going to be 100% objective or impartial.

but what i can say is that actual sports coverage by the msg network has dropped off significantly since dolan has been in charge. that irks me more than anything. no real postgame coverage (we used to see the entire coach's press conference), pregame is atrocious and half time is purely lacking.

They need a post game show for sure

I think the comparison between MSG and Yes is exaggerated, but it is true that Dolan has erected an iron curtain of sorts where in house criticism is completely discouraged. That said, I'm not outraged that someone would want their product presented in the best light.

Both channels are vehicles to promote their interests, namely the Knicks and the Nets/Yanks respectfully. What are you looking to see? Islesfan, or Bonn type analysts on MSG whose goal is to direct poisonous darts at Isiah? Reasonable?

Also, MSG has almost completely removed sports talk/panels type programming, so there are fewer opportunities to hear Knicks analysis. I remember shows like 'Angles' and 'Talk of the Town' where sportswriters would verbally slap down Layden. I wish Allanfan would provide specific examples in which MSG was clearly trying to engage in Fox News style damage control and sterilization of opinions.

If you have league pass, then you know that we don't have it that bad in NY. Have you ever listened to Heinsohn on the Celtic broadcasts? UGH! There's so much open rooting that goes on with teams around the league that you can't begin to compare any NY outlet to them. As bad as you think it is, it's not even close to the garbage around the league.

Posted by nixluva:

If you have league pass, then you know that we don't have it that bad in NY. Have you ever listened to Heinsohn on the Celtic broadcasts? UGH! There's so much open rooting that goes on with teams around the league that you can't begin to compare any NY outlet to them. As bad as you think it is, it's not even close to the garbage around the league.

It's in the Top 3 without question if you delete Breen out of the equation. It's not debatable. TH for the Celtics is bad but at least he let's it known he's a Flat Out Homer. MSG tries to hide and sugarcoat everything, put spins on tragic situations and pacify the viewers. Just Awful!!!!!


Oh and Gus Johnson is Heinson's equal except he tries to hide behind his HOMERISM!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-29-2007 8:46 PM]

I listened the the Steven Smith or sombodys Smith show that comes on ESPN at 12 noon. Hey this brother has Uncle Tom writen all over him. He uses that angry agressive talk personality to get his point over. He will move up the ladder because he says what the white media wants to hear. And all you white guys on the blog I don't mean this in a negative way but we sometimes see things differently. For example you say OJ Simpson was guilty and the laws should change so this don't happen again. We say hey wait a mim what about all of our brothers that got killed and lynched in the South and the guilty parties went free at trial and are still free. I just mean that Steven A Smith to me have that Uncle Tom Flavor, big pop eyes and he talks angry but really don't offend anyone but the people he knows he can get away with. Please correct me if I'm wrong. No hat intended.

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