Am I the only one that thinks Zach could've been traded for just as trade bait later down the road....b/c Frye's value was diminishing and b/c Isiah knew no team would give us caliber pieces for Steve Francis?


I for one hope so, b/c Zach atleast has enough value to help us acquire players that round out our roster more.


Just think about it - we already have the player with the most points in the paint, what purpose is Zach serving here?


Curry isn't that good of a passer, so it's not like they'll be fascilitating eachother; and it's not like Zach covers up Eddy's deficiencies either...


So what's the point?


I've heard the "outscore other teams/bull them in the paint" arguement, and personally I think it's Bull. Both those guys take a chunk out of the shotclock to produce, and we don't play defense, so........




Anyway, here, without further adue, are the 5 teams where Z-Bo could call home come next season:



CHICAGO - It may not be Reinsdorf's style to overpay, but throw Zach into that mix and that's something special ain't it? Hell, he'll come alot cheaper than Gasol ever will...

A freshly re-signed Nocioni plus filler would satisfy both sides.



CLEVELAND - Bron wants to win it all? He needs a battering ram in the middle.



Gooden + Damon Jones and a 1st should get it done. Don't forget Zeke's hardon for Drew...and all that cash saved.



DETROIT - Pistons need an injection of youth. Let's swap Sheed and call it a day.



LOS ANGELES - Lakers need a bigtime PF in that stacked conference. Randolph for Odomstraight up.



MIAMI - Shaq's getting older, Haslem's outwelcoming his stay, and Wade's gonna need a running mate one day.



Haslem + Williams, and I'm chirping...




So that's pretty much the score. If you actually check them out you'll notice each of those trades gives us a playoff piece that fits better considering our needs, while saving us cap $$.


Kind of a win-win don't you think?

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07-29-2007 03:26 AM]

Honestly, and this is coming from a "hater". I think those are almost all horrible trades for the Knicks. Zach comes with baggage due to attitude and legal issues, but most of those trades are role players who wouldn't even start over David Lee.

Also, your Lakers trade didn't mention who you were intending to trade for.

If you want to use Zach as a piece, use him to up the team's talent level, not degrade it.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 29 2007 02:39 AM]

I even left NJ off the list b/c it would be stupid to improve a team in the same division as us...

Trade Eddy now. His trade value is as high as it will get. Give Zach a chance to make the all-star team in the watered down eastern conference to get his trade value up.

Posted by EnySpree:

Zach and curry could wind up being a great combo. Why not? Its possible. Zach is not Steve francis. I personally can't wait to see if it can work. Both guys are young and are talented. They still have good trade value regardless.

Go knicks!

I agree. let's see what happens. to me the most important thing is isiah has to be honest with himself and play the guys who are playing best together and sit the guys who aren't gelling, no matter what their contract status is. this should, of course, guarantee jerome some major minutes this year.

Posted by VDesai:

the last thing we need to do is turn a star player into 2 more role players.

Big point here.

Zach averaged 23 and 10 last year. That's bosh, brand, Jermaine oneal, Carlos boozer, type numbers.

He did it on a bad team? Houston did most of his scoring on bad teams and some people seem to think his number should have been retired.

Zach is still very young. The knicks got themselves a star. Rashard Lewis has been on some crappy teams. He's also made the playoffs a few times. He's still reguarded as a star. People forget zach had a taste of the playoffs early on when Portland still had one of the deepest teams in basketball. He didn't get 48 mins per buy he had a major role and had good production during that time.

Anyway, if zach sucks like channing did then I will burn him the same way. Chances are he won't because he has done it and made it look easy all this time. He played the year before on one leg. Zachs team was lottery bound buy he still wanted to compete. There are more positives to call out than negatives.

Isiah had a plan to run Frye and curry together. Isiah has tried his best to get Frye in the game. Isiah has tried posting him and its like he was posting up a brick wall. He tried to free his jumper like he was Reggie miller or something. With zach isiah won't have to try cuz zach is gonna eat those opportunities up like Jerome James at burger king.

Way more to talk about than negative bs.

I like the Odom trade, but other than that, those aren't very good trades that help us, besides MAYBE Haslem but I have no desire for J-Will.

Personally, I think we should at least give this frontcourt a chance, and if it doesn't work, hopefully we'll be able to trade one of them.

This isn't the same thing as Marbury/Francis though, b/c both are much younger and also, Curry's contract isn't bad. So at least ONE has value.

Zack is not going anywhere unless we are getting a superstar in return. Besides, I like Zack and think that he can be a dominate player on this team. This guy is someone you can feed the ball to in the 4th quarter and he will produce.

We have even see this thing thru and were trading him. Talk about rush to judge

I don't believe the man who built the Marbury-Crawford backcourt and now the Randolph-Curry frontcourt really cares about stopping anybody.

I really hope Zach is going to be as good as or better than he was at Portland. A couple of concerns are 1) His knee and 2) Recent history of players suddenly sucking as soon as they are signed to the Knicks. Hopefully the coaches can find a way for Zach and Eddy to coexist and thrive.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 07-29-2007 13:54]