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nixluva
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7/28/2007  10:53 PM
I hope Isiah would finally get rid of his favorite Clearout and let Jamal or Steph go one on one to close out qtrs. MAN, I hate that crap. How many times did we have to see that utterly fail beefore he get's the hint that it doesn't work? It's such a low % play and teams never let us get off a good shot when we do that. You'd think that with all the plays in the playbook that they could come up with something more creative than that. In fact one of his biggest weaknesses is those kinds of situations. They call time come back out on the floor and run NOTHING!

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7/28/2007  11:00 PM
i want to see an effort on defense...
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7/28/2007  11:26 PM
I want to see some blocked shots and less than 49 team turnovers a game this time.
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7/28/2007  11:32 PM
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7/28/2007  11:47 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

I want to see some blocked shots and less than 49 team turnovers a game this time.

The TO's really are a huge problem. If we cut them down that alone would aid our D tremendously. Guys just have to take care of the ball. Try a ball fake once in a while instead of telegraphing every pass. Stop bowling over defenders and take a pullup jumper once in a while. Those darned TO's turn into a lot of easy baskets for the other team.

I'm hoping that with a few less hard double and triple teams, Curry will commit fewer TO's.
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7/29/2007  12:01 AM
TO's as well as one-on-one stuff is coaching problem in first place.
The luck of playmakers on the team also contributes.
Nothing was done to fix it - same players same coaching stuff.
Most likely we will see same blunders.


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7/29/2007  1:00 AM
Biggest pet peeve is lack of effort. If we show consistent effort every night, the other things will fall into place a lot easier. Certain players seem to always show the effort: Lee, Balkman, possibly Collins. Most of the other guys show sporadic effort and are very lazy in some or all facets of the game at times.

If the effort was there every night across the board, then I would see my biggest issues as a team not be such big issues. Here are my biggest issues with the team, aside from effort:
Lack of passing out of the post
Shot blocking
Turnovers
Terrible perimeter defense -- worst in the league (If you disagree, let's not argue whether they're 25th worst or plain out worst in this thread, it's irrelevant for this thread).

Effort would be a huge step in solving all of those problems.
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7/29/2007  6:42 AM
I wanna see channing Frye traded. If the knicks could get a guy that can rebound, put the ball on the floor and score like a man the knicks would be better off.

Isiah also has to do something about Steve francis. He is a waste. The knicks have guys that can play. Francis is a cancer. He is all about his own minutes and stats.

Aside from that, the knicks need to do a better job of manning up on the 3pt line. The knicks double team everybody for no reason. They also double off of the 3pts specialists of the league. That's the game right there. This is not all on craw either cuz everyone especially Q are guilty.

I also would like to see the knicks step in and take the charge more. They have plenty of bodies. Isiah should take advantage of that.
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7/29/2007  10:19 AM
actually, our TO's should go way down this season. 2 reasons...

1.w/zach and some good outside shooters on the squad, no more tripple teams on curry.

2.no more francis...that guy was a turn over waiting to happen.
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7/29/2007  10:21 AM
daddy, the triple teams had little to do with it. Crawford, Marbury and Francis all made horrible passes and had bad decision making throughout the entire season. I thought Curry did a little bit better, in that regard. Not good, but better. He wasn't a huge part of the problem.
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7/29/2007  10:28 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

I wanna see channing Frye traded. If the knicks could get a guy that can rebound, put the ball on the floor and score like a man the knicks would be better off.

Isiah also has to do something about Steve francis. He is a waste. The knicks have guys that can play. Francis is a cancer. He is all about his own minutes and stats.


Aside from that, the knicks need to do a better job of manning up on the 3pt line. The knicks double team everybody for no reason. They also double off of the 3pts specialists of the league. That's the game right there. This is not all on craw either cuz everyone especially Q are guilty.

I also would like to see the knicks step in and take the charge more. They have plenty of bodies. Isiah should take advantage of that.

huh??
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7/29/2007  10:46 AM
At first I strongly disagreed with the idea we needed more effort. Then it dawned on me that you are right. The effort needs to be there for the first unit. They need to hold their own against other starting lineups. Then our second unit can run the other team into the ground. Last year the second unit almost always had to come from behind by 20 points far too often.

I believe that the addition of Zach, and a healthy Q will change that this year.

Then perimeter defense and turn overs need to be addressed. Blocked shots is a canard in my opinion. Solid help defense is what is really needed. Blocked shots and dunks are what makes it more fun for the fans, but don't necessarily add more wins.

Last year the Knicks where the worst in TO per, near worst in Assists per, and near worst in defense.
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7/29/2007  11:14 AM
excuses.

isiah needs to stop being a pansy.

he can not let his gm'ing decisions influence his coaching decisions.

defense must be emphasized...

he must hold players accountable and if they don't play defense, they have to sit.

i think if he doesn't become more of a disciplinarian as a coach, then the team could miss the playoffs.
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7/29/2007  11:58 AM
Isiah definately needs to be more strict with his rotation. That's the accountability that we all feel the team needs to learn.

If isiah goes with Q at the 3 and craw at the 2, leave it like that! Stop messing around. If craw can't defend the 2 like you want so be it. Make him! The team leaders should get on him. The team as a whole have to make craw see where he is going wrong. The knicks need craw to play big minutes. Same with balkman, Jared, Chandler. Isiah has to chose one person to back up Q, that means 2 players have to eat the cat poop until an injury opens an opportunity.

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7/29/2007  12:28 PM
Assiah, marbury and of course, the most air headed owner of them all, DOLAN!
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7/29/2007  12:30 PM
Agree with DJ eliminate excuses mainly from the apologist and LOVERS/HOMERS.
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7/29/2007  1:37 PM
No great comebacks and coming up short

or

spotting opponents 10+ points at the start of the game

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7/29/2007  1:48 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Isiah definately needs to be more strict with his rotation. That's the accountability that we all feel the team needs to learn.

If isiah goes with Q at the 3 and craw at the 2, leave it like that! Stop messing around. If craw can't defend the 2 like you want so be it. Make him! The team leaders should get on him. The team as a whole have to make craw see where he is going wrong. The knicks need craw to play big minutes. Same with balkman, Jared, Chandler. Isiah has to chose one person to back up Q, that means 2 players have to eat the cat poop until an injury opens an opportunity.

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i don’t think that will work. if craw doesn’t d, sit his ass down. play someone who will. give nate the shot. give nichols the shot. don’t leave guys on the floor if they’re not producing. let them earn their next shots at pt in practice. when craw mans up on d enough in practice he can earn his next shot at doing it in a game.

i'm not just pricking on craw - it should go for everyone.
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7/29/2007  2:20 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by EnySpree:

Isiah definately needs to be more strict with his rotation. That's the accountability that we all feel the team needs to learn.

If isiah goes with Q at the 3 and craw at the 2, leave it like that! Stop messing around. If craw can't defend the 2 like you want so be it. Make him! The team leaders should get on him. The team as a whole have to make craw see where he is going wrong. The knicks need craw to play big minutes. Same with balkman, Jared, Chandler. Isiah has to chose one person to back up Q, that means 2 players have to eat the cat poop until an injury opens an opportunity.

Go knicks!

i dont think that will work. if craw doesnt d, sit his ass down. play someone who will. give nate the shot. give nichols the shot. dont leave guys on the floor if theyre not producing. let them earn their next shots at pt in practice. when craw mans up on d enough in practice he can earn his next shot at doing it in a game.

i'm not just pricking on craw - it should go for everyone.

Knicks need craws offensive game. I agree that isiah should sit anybody down that can't play defense, but the answer to that is nobody plays defense! Q is regarded as a good defender but the guy is always on the other side of the court while his man is practicing his 3pt stroke.

That's coaching. No way in the hell does a guy do this for 3 years straight and not improve. Marbs is the only guy that seems to understand what to do.

Its not all coaching though. Guys have to communicate. For example, when eVil was busting my ass at the basketball get together. I was getting killed by picks. I was too concerned with getting guy with them that I couldn't really stay with evil. My teamates should have been calling pick left, or right. At the same time I should have called switch. My reward was a gash on my eye lid. I can't look for a sub. I have to communicate better. Big C was telling me to go through the screen. As I told evil after the game, "I'm full now cuz I was eating all those picks" whomp whomp whomp.

Anyway, all these guys have to lean it already. Isiah cant be going though benching certain guys all the time cuz of their defense. If that happens then its gonna be a long inconsistant season again!!
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7/29/2007  3:55 PM
I don't want to see players like Jeffries catching the ball and standing there with that "deer in the headlights" look, or guys like Q having passes whiz by them when they aren't looking for it in key situations.

You hope that having another player in Zach that knows what he wants to do on the floor and more time with this group together to develop chamistry that the silly turnovers will stop.


The other thing that bothered me most about last year was the bad starts to 1st and 3rd quarters. You just can't explain why that happened.

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