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7/26/2007  9:30 AM
David Stern is a dead man walking!
Posted by theredyankee on Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:52 pm

David Stern is a dead man walking!

Judging from how he conducted himself at his press conference on Tuesday, July 24, he already knows this.

Gone was the persona of confidence to the point of arrogance, the conceited dictator that all of us have come to know. Instead, there was a man who was demonstratively unsure of himself, speaking at great length and in measured words and tone, not so much to inform the public, but rather to defend and validate his own actions.

The entire press conference of David Stern was only self serving.

There is a reason for this, and that reason is that David Stern knows details of the investigation that have not yet to be made public, details that published reports indicate that Tim Donaghy is going to implicate others in a wider conspiracy.

That is why David Stern abruptly called this press conference to get his side of the story out first before Donaghy does when he turns himself in at the Brooklyn Federal Courthouse, which published reports indicate will happen this week.

In other words, instead of attempting to deal with the problem and resolve it, David Stern has personally adopted the strategy that he is going to try to hold on to his job, by waging a PR campaign in the media, framing it as a matter of credibility. On one side, you have David Stern, and his self described NBA Security Department that is staffed with FBI, CIA, DEA, and other law enforcement agents, who say that "this is a isolated case" and that "games are decided on their own merit," and on the other side, you have the lying Tim Donaghy who is trying to save his skin by falsely trying to implicate innocent others.

By placing his own personal interests above the league, by protecting the status quo instead of addressing the problem, David Stern has signaled that he views himself as being under siege, and he has absolutely no intention on surrendering, and that the only way of fixing the problem is to get him out of the Commissioners Office, and the only way that that is going to occur is if both he and the NBA is burned to the ground first.

The simple fact is that David Stern had the opportunity to do the right thing at his press conference. He could have announced what everybody else knows, that the situation has grave and serious impact upon the credibility of competition, and in order to maintain the credibility of the league, a complete overhaul of the methods and practices of officiating in the NBA will be conducted.

Instead, David Stern selectively chooses to defend and protect the status quo, and he did so only to protect himself and his legacy and perseverance as Commissioner.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of the players, fans, and those who cover the game know that games ARE NOT decided on its own merit. While this is the first known instance of fixing games from outside the league, there is overwhelming anecdotal evidence that the NBA has long placed the business interests of the game above the competitive interests of the game, and in doing so, the NBA has mandated that preferential treatment be given to specific players and specific franchises so to maximize television revenue and marketing opportunities.

Over the years, this has led the NBA down a slippery slope, where the preferential treatment given to specific players and specific franchises, which started out as both rare and subtle, has become more and more pervasive and more and more direct and more and more obvious.

The simple fact that Joey Crawford was suspended for the rest of the season and the playoffs for ejecting from a game Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs, a player and franchise who have greatly benefited over the years from the standard of inequality of officiating, makes it clear that all officials understood the consequences of not conforming to the officiating standards implemented by David Stern.

This status quo created an environment where the officials were required to forgo their integrity, and do so for the financial benefit of David Stern and his business partners.

From the perspective of the officials, everyone else involved except you is getting rich off of this arrangement, the players, the owners, the networks, the agents, the sponsors, etc., etc., etc.

In that the integrity of competition and the official has already been compromised, it is only logical and inevitable for the official to rationalize the situation and decide that they are going to look out for themselves and get theirs.

On Tuesday, July 24, David Stern held a press conference and declared in effect that none of this has occurred, and he in effect told all of us to not believe what we see, we should instead believe what he says, and that the NBA is going to back to the status quo as if none of this has occurred.

David Stern has announced that he is willing to completely burn to the ground the NBA in order to protect and preserve himself and his status quo.

The owners of all NBA franchises have a decision to make, they can either assemble immediately and vote to remove David Stern from office before he can do any more damage to the game, or they can leave him in office for now, allow him to continue to damage the game, and then remove him later.

David Stern has now made one thing abundantly clear, his days are numbered, and he is done as Commissioner, and his lasting legacy will be game fixing.

The only questions in doubt are when and how he will go, and how much more damage he will do to the game before he leaves.

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7/26/2007  9:38 AM
sounds like complete speculation if you ask me, real sports tabloid stuff
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7/26/2007  9:48 AM
if this were true, wouldn't David Stern have preferred the finals go 7 games? And the Cavs were close enough that 'if a few calls had gone', they might have won some games.

And I think Lebron probably outsells Duncan in terms of jerseys & other merchandise, so having Lebron upset the Spurs would have been the ultimate in 'supposed' desired end for David Stern & his interests...
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7/26/2007  9:53 AM
Author: theredyankee?

Who? Complete speculation.
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7/26/2007  9:59 AM
BJ McKie, the South Carolina Gamecocks all-time leading scorer, had dreams of playing in the NBA before settling to play in Europe.

McKie says there was always whispers, particularly in Europe, about the integrity of NBA outcomes, but he didn't pay any attention to them. This new scandal means "the NBA's going to have to clean up some things that are there," McKie said. "All in all, the NBA's going to be the NBA. People are still going to see the games, people are still going to watch the games."

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7/26/2007  11:09 AM
The conspiracy theory threads are running as rampant as ever.
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7/26/2007  11:15 AM
Stern is fine. The owners love the guy and they are the ones that pay his check
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7/26/2007  12:17 PM
Playa I realize you have strong vested interest in political subjects and have an agenda to expose those involved in corruption but come on.

How many more threads are you going to start concerning this? I know the summer is slow and yes this is a bomb shell but I think you have surpassed all Curry, I SAY UGH, and Mabury thread summer starters these past 2 weeks combined.

I don't think you dislike the guy more than I do, that's for sure.
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7/26/2007  12:33 PM

If the Refs were given a directive over the years for some players and some teams to advance for marketing purpose (jordan rules)then there is a big problem. This Donaghy guy is a piece of work and could speak the unspoken, but how credible is he if he is trying to cover his hide?

I always thought a conspiricay would be tough to hide but in the big picture, the Gov't did a good job over the years hiding things and making accusations non credible, so why couldn't the NBA?

I think that for the NBA to whether the storm a strong leadership is needed and I would expect nothing less than Stern to get up and get his cred in place.

I think its way to early to RIP Stern quite yet.
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7/26/2007  12:41 PM
Big money sport business is corrupt by default.
Boxing, horseracing, wrestling, Formula, etc. are officially fixed for gambling purposes
Why not basketball?
I guess it is more complicated but not impossible.
This was done in soccer, in baseball, hockey... So it s not a problem for bbal.
The question is does anybody need the "integrity of the game"? What is the profit from this thing?

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7/26/2007  1:01 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Big money sport business is corrupt by default.
Boxing, horseracing, wrestling, Formula, etc. are officially fixed for gambling purposes
Why not basketball?


ask trueblue love has blinded him
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7/26/2007  1:17 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by arkrud:

Big money sport business is corrupt by default.
Boxing, horseracing, wrestling, Formula, etc. are officially fixed for gambling purposes
Why not basketball?


ask trueblue love has blinded him


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7/26/2007  1:20 PM
Imagine the article this guy could write on Isiah.
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7/26/2007  2:21 PM
This is quite possibly the stupidest, most ill informed and depressingly biased article I have ever seen.

And now, to indulge Playa, some nonsense.


Rumors abound that the Luxemborg army, in conjunction with the State of Delaware and the US Virgin Islands have developed a new military weapon involving killer babies. The babies are to be grown using a mixture of foetal material and sunflower seeds. The plan is to plant them in orphanages throughout the world, where they will infiltrate society until the signal is given. At that point they will arise and eat everyone in sight. The killer babies have been genetically modified so that instead of pooping, they store up the excreta and then can use it as a weapon, firing dried dung pellets at an astonishing rate of 40 logs per second.

Predictably, our insider has informed us that the CIA, FBI and US government have all been involved. Not surprisingly, President George W Bush is said to be an early prototype of the killer babies.

When asked, representatives of the White House refused to comment, although a nervous-looking insider confirmed our worst fears by hurridly whispering that "everything is being hushed up. We're all terrified of the 'Toddler Mafia'". Reports of potential whistle-blowers finding dried poop wrapped in old daipers as a sign that if they break ranks they would "sleep with the feces" are, as yet, unconfirmed.

Stay tuned for more information.
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7/26/2007  4:27 PM
Posted by firefly:

This is quite possibly the stupidest, most ill informed and depressingly biased article I have ever seen.

And now, to indulge Playa, some nonsense.


Rumors abound that the Luxemborg army, in conjunction with the State of Delaware and the US Virgin Islands have developed a new military weapon involving killer babies. The babies are to be grown using a mixture of foetal material and sunflower seeds. The plan is to plant them in orphanages throughout the world, where they will infiltrate society until the signal is given. At that point they will arise and eat everyone in sight. The killer babies have been genetically modified so that instead of pooping, they store up the excreta and then can use it as a weapon, firing dried dung pellets at an astonishing rate of 40 logs per second.

Predictably, our insider has informed us that the CIA, FBI and US government have all been involved. Not surprisingly, President George W Bush is said to be an early prototype of the killer babies.

When asked, representatives of the White House refused to comment, although a nervous-looking insider confirmed our worst fears by hurridly whispering that "everything is being hushed up. We're all terrified of the 'Toddler Mafia'". Reports of potential whistle-blowers finding dried poop wrapped in old daipers as a sign that if they break ranks they would "sleep with the feces" are, as yet, unconfirmed.

Stay tuned for more information.


But the question is are these white killer poop babies or black killer poop babies?
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7/26/2007  4:49 PM
UPDATE+++++++UPDATE++++++

New reports suggest that the Luxembourgian/Delawareite/Virgins will be equipped with camouflage sensors to enable them to better infiltrate different sections of society.

It is believed that killer babies "planted" in predominantly white areas will adapt to their surroundings by wearing plaid shirts underneath sleevless sweaters. During the genetic engineering stage they will be emplanted with the lyrics from every Bette Midler, Bryan Adams and Celine Dion song. Babies "planted" in predominantly black areas will come equipped with lo-hang daipers, oversized baby-gro's and heavy gold chain pacifier straps. They will be emplanted with 50 cent lyrics and only reply to a sentence ending in the word "dawg".

Killer babies placed in Canada have be programmed with the word "eh?"

The France portion of the invasion had to be scrapped when all the French babies kept attemping to lay down their arms and surrender, leaving steaming piles of baby-poop everywhere.

[Edited by - firefly on 07-26-2007 4:51 PM]
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7/26/2007  5:02 PM
Over the years, this has led the NBA down a slippery slope, where the preferential treatment given to specific players and specific franchises, which started out as both rare and subtle, has become more and more pervasive and more and more direct and more and more obvious.

The simple fact that Joey Crawford was suspended for the rest of the season and the playoffs for ejecting from a game Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs, a player and franchise who have greatly benefited over the years from the standard of inequality of officiating, makes it clear that all officials understood the consequences of not conforming to the officiating standards implemented by David Stern.

Why of all teams and media markets, would Stern be protecting and helping the San Antonio (boring to most people) Spurs who have perhaps the most unmarketable superstar in all of major sport?

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7/26/2007  7:27 PM
Posted by kam77:
Over the years, this has led the NBA down a slippery slope, where the preferential treatment given to specific players and specific franchises, which started out as both rare and subtle, has become more and more pervasive and more and more direct and more and more obvious.

The simple fact that Joey Crawford was suspended for the rest of the season and the playoffs for ejecting from a game Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs, a player and franchise who have greatly benefited over the years from the standard of inequality of officiating, makes it clear that all officials understood the consequences of not conforming to the officiating standards implemented by David Stern.

Why of all teams and media markets, would Stern be protecting and helping the San Antonio (boring to most people) Spurs who have perhaps the most unmarketable superstar in all of major sport?

Blog = Brains left out guy

Because stern wants the league to play the way the spurs play or the way the pistons played under LB.

With that (team)style of play implemented in the league Jordan no longer plays anymore. More European players would fit in and athletisism would have it's place, but fundementals would be more valuable in the league opening up the league for specialty players.

Some of you don't get it, look at the spurs roster, it's euro friendly no controversial.players there and they actually win championships that way.

Look at the team on the Horiizon the Toronto Raptors , totaly euro. This is HOW AND why Toronto got the 1st pick IN THE DRAFT 2 YRS AGO and took Barganni....

This is what stern desires the NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION to look like .

Fan friendly(PEOPLE WHO RESMBLE PAYING CUSTOMERS), euro friendly, with team play being the most important facet of the league's game again before Jordan came.

Wake up people, Colangelo doesn't go to Toronto if he didn't know a head of time he would get the #1 pick.

I know this is too much for many to comprehend, but the funny thing is somebody pulled the rug from under stern plan before it came to frution.



[Edited by - playa2 on 27-07-2007 06:35]
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7/26/2007  7:43 PM
Because stern wants the league to play the way the spurs play or the way the pistons played under LB.

This is complete and total bull****
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/26/2007  7:44 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by kam77:
Over the years, this has led the NBA down a slippery slope, where the preferential treatment given to specific players and specific franchises, which started out as both rare and subtle, has become more and more pervasive and more and more direct and more and more obvious.

The simple fact that Joey Crawford was suspended for the rest of the season and the playoffs for ejecting from a game Tim Duncan of the San Antonio Spurs, a player and franchise who have greatly benefited over the years from the standard of inequality of officiating, makes it clear that all officials understood the consequences of not conforming to the officiating standards implemented by David Stern.

Why of all teams and media markets, would Stern be protecting and helping the San Antonio (boring to most people) Spurs who have perhaps the most unmarketable superstar in all of major sport?

Blog = Brains left out guy

Because stern wants the league to play the way the spurs play or the way the pistons played under LB.

With that (team)style of play implemented in the league Jordan no longer plays anymore. More European players would fit in and athletisism would have it's place, but fundementals would be more valuable in the league opening up the league for specialty players.

Some of you don't get it, look at the spurs roster, it's euro friendly no controversial.players there and they actually win championships that way.

Look at the team on the Horiizon the Toronto Raptors , totaly euro. This is HOW AND why Toronto got the 1st pick IN THE DRAFT 2 YRS AGO and took Barganni....

This is what stern desires the NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION to look like .

Fan friendly(PEOPLE WHO RESMBLE PLAYING CUSTOMERS), euro friendly, with team play being the most important facet of the league again.

Wake up people Colangelo doesn't go to Toronto if he didn't know a head of time he would get the #1 pick.

I know this is too much for many to comprehend, but the funny thing is somebody pulled the rug from under stern before his plan came to frution.


Your theory is total crud playa. The worst thing that could happen to the NBA is that the league became boring. Its the last thing that Stern would ever want, and would spell the end of the NBA within 5 years. Excitement is what the fans want, and if you dont think Stern knows that, then your head is seriously lost in the clouds.
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