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bobs3304
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7/12/2007  9:03 PM
I was thinkin at work...forget getting rid of Randolph. He's the one much closer to All Star status.


Just dump Curry and get a mobile shotblocking Center.

With Boston poised to land Camby, and Orlando adding Shard (although I think they may just get worse next year), Knicks need to shore up their weaknesses fast.


He may be slow-witted, but so is Curry. And he's one of the best shotblockers IN THE GAME.


Let them throw in a Top 5 Protected pick and I'm down for it ASAP.


B/c hey, like one scout said......right now our frontline is probly the slowest in the league.

WE NEED SOME QUICKNESS!
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/12/2007  9:06 PM
We would have essentially given up 2 lottery picks, 2 picks in the 30s, and 2 expiring contracts for Dalembert then. The trade does make sense, though. Any economist will tell you you can't make future decisions based on sunk costs. Guaranteed the team would win more games after doing this trade than if it didn't do the trade.
bobs3304
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7/12/2007  9:09 PM
^ We'd have a much more balanced roster.


That in itself is worth it, even if Isiah has to sulk.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/12/2007  9:17 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

We would have essentially given up 2 lottery picks, 2 picks in the 30s, and 2 expiring contracts for Dalembert then. The trade does make sense, though. Any economist will tell you you can't make future decisions based on sunk costs. Guaranteed the team would win more games after doing this trade than if it didn't do the trade.

Always funny to see somebody issue an empty guarantee for something they have no control over.
bobs3304
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7/12/2007  9:20 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:


Always funny to see somebody issue an empty guarantee for something they have no control over.

Its called common sense...


Doy.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/12/2007  9:24 PM
stop bringing up dalembart trades please!

he's waaaay over paid and has shown nothing.

it's over dude...sorry.

dalembart sucks as bad as any knick.

to trade curry (sight unseen this season) and toss in nate for an overpaid shot blocker is dopey.

sorry.
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7/12/2007  9:25 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by COSSUCKS:


Always funny to see somebody issue an empty guarantee for something they have no control over.

Its called common sense...
common sense
Hmmm...
What this thing has in common with Isiah?
He is not common - he is unique persone.

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7/12/2007  9:26 PM
Posted by bobs3304:
Posted by COSSUCKS:


Always funny to see somebody issue an empty guarantee for something they have no control over.

Its called common sense...


Doy.

How is issuing a guarantee over something you cant guarantee common sense? More like no sense.
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7/12/2007  9:27 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

We would have essentially given up 2 lottery picks, 2 picks in the 30s, and 2 expiring contracts for Dalembert then. The trade does make sense, though. Any economist will tell you you can't make future decisions based on sunk costs. Guaranteed the team would win more games after doing this trade than if it didn't do the trade.

Bonn- he had philly sending us a top 5 protected pick back to us-

honestly, I think you could get more for curry- I've been lobbying for Dallas' Josh Howard-
bobs3304
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7/12/2007  10:50 PM
Ya, and I've been lobbying for Jessica Alba, but ain't happening...


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
bobs3304
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7/12/2007  10:52 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

stop bringing up dalembart trades please!

he's waaaay over paid and has shown nothing.

it's over dude...sorry.

dalembart sucks as bad as any knick.

to trade curry (sight unseen this season) and toss in nate for an overpaid shot blocker is dopey.

sorry.


Dalembert by himself averages as many blocks as the entire Knick team...


'Nuff said.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 07-12-2007 10:53 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/12/2007  11:07 PM
Curry by himself averages more points in the paint then the entire Sixer team.

'Nuff Said!
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7/12/2007  11:09 PM
you people really need to give Curry some time to come into his role. Wow, to not like a player that showed he has upside and can be dominate is flat out crazy.
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7/12/2007  11:12 PM
why? how does this trade make the knicks better? nevermind, I give up...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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7/12/2007  11:13 PM
This Bobs3304 guy knows absolutely nothing about basketball! Why does he continue to have trend starting privileges.
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bobs3304
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7/12/2007  11:19 PM
Posted by mikesknicks:

This Bobs3304 guy knows absolutely nothing about basketball! Why does he continue to have trend starting privileges.

You're a goonhead.


What makes you qualified to judge whose intelligent or isn't?


You know just as little about basketball as I do. Can you predict the effect Dalembert would have?

No of course you can't dummy. No one can. He could change everything, or he could change nothing.


All I know is that we just acquired a post player, and Eddy's value to the team just plummeted. Whereas we're still one of the worst shotblocking teams in the entire league.


Getting past my rant FINALLY against this goombah...


I think an ideal trade would be Curry, Jefferies, Nate for Dalembert, Ollie


Forget any picks. Isiah would get forgiveness for everything if he pulled that move off. That's a cap-conscious, mistake-removing, position-warey move.

That's shrewd.


Neway, Mikesknicks can suck my nads, as we all know.


Hiyo.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/12/2007  11:25 PM
Your ideal trade is terrible. You get rid of 1 one dimensional guy for another one ?

I prefer to keeps Curry's dimension. We need shot blocking , but we also need some low post scoring. That is Curry, I also have to disagree with you as far as Curry's stock with the team falling. he is very much apart of the team. Only way he gets moved is in a deal for a mega star, not another over paid guy who only blocks shot. Put Morris in, tell him to swat anything coming into the lane.
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bobs3304
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7/12/2007  11:30 PM
^ No one, and I mean not a single team out there, is trading a star for Curry.

The trend is teams trade stars for any combination of lottery picks, cap space, and young cheap talent.

Why swap a better player with a big contract for a lesser player with a big contract?


And at what point didn't Randolph being a 25 ppg post scorer in the East doesn't enter your mind?


Morris isn't a shotblocker......and I don't know basketball???


Sheesh.


I think I just don't like any Mikes at all!

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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7/12/2007  11:34 PM
Why are there so many threads started that bring up ideas for trading Curry? I just don't get it. Is having a shotblocker that big of a deal? I don't think so. It's not a primary reason why teams win. It's a nice asset to have, but let's not make it more important than it is. We stunk at blocking shots. The difference between us and the top team was 2.6 blocks a game. To me those 3 blocks aren't going to make that huge of an impact over the course of a season. It's just a very dramatic defensive play, but it's no more important than a steal, in fact steals probably effect the outcome much more, since I would guess that they lead more often to points or at least FGA's for your team. I'd prefer that we got more steals from our guards than blocked shots from our bigs.

Now I know that many will bring up the idea that the presence of a shotblocker who will deter penetrators is an area where you don't see the credit in the boxscore. Still when talking about actual blocks, I don't count that as a big deal. I just want to see this team defend better period. I don't care where the blocks come from. In my estimation we'll get more blocks from Balkman and Jared this year. I'm more interested in better team D. I love a good blocked shot as much as the next buy, but i'm not gonna send Curry away for some bum just cuz he can block a shot or two.
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7/12/2007  11:36 PM
My point was to just tell someone to go out and block shots, so sense in bringing in an over paid shot blocker expert.

you must really dislike eddy Curry to not see the value in having him. I guarantee that if IT lifts the no trade talk from Curry's name many teams will come knocking. It's funny, so many teams need a guy like Curry to put them over the top.

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