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Andrew
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7/4/2007  7:42 PM
Man...we helped the Suns free up $$ for Nash.

We helped Chicago free up $$ to get Wallace.

We helped Orlando free up $$ to get Lewis.

We helped Portland free up $$ in a couple of years.

We are really helping other teams sign above mid level players.
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7/4/2007  7:43 PM
Such is life with Isiah's Knicks...

Gotta hope this Zach trade really gets the Knicks going...

[Edited by - knicksfan on 07-04-2007 7:44 PM]
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7/4/2007  7:45 PM
on deck...the sacratomato kings.
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7/4/2007  7:46 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Man...we helped the Suns free up $$ for Nash.

We helped Chicago free up $$ to get Wallace.

We helped Orlando free up $$ to get Lewis.

We helped Portland free up $$ in a couple of years.

We are really helping other teams sign above mid level players.

WB, hope you had a good vacation.
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Andrew
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7/4/2007  7:54 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

WB, hope you had a good vacation.

I did....didn't think about the Knicks very much at all.

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7/4/2007  7:57 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by Pharzeone:

WB, hope you had a good vacation.

I did....didn't think about the Knicks very much at all.

That's the way to spend a nice vacation.
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7/4/2007  8:06 PM
Hey, all those guys got cap room, but end up with the same number of titles as the knicks. Yeah they got playoffs, but we got more money for our playoffs.

Cap room is looking more and more like a myth that people are clinging to to bash the knicks.

When Phoenix, Chicago, Orlando or portland win a title, then we can say we did something.

Until then, it's as much as a myth as picking first in the draft (see mineesota and olawakandi)
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7/4/2007  8:11 PM
CHI will be regretting how they spent the spoils of the Curry trade in a year or two. Pheonix hasn't won with their boy Nash yet. Orlando has now maxed themselves out of the FA game and didn't improve appreciably. Portland.. who cares. They're out west.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/4/2007  8:13 PM
stop bashing the knicks- the randolph trade is a great trade for us.
some of you guys are so f'in negative.
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7/4/2007  8:14 PM
spilled milk my friend.

I'd like to see a post after a team wins that the knicks have traded with under isiah.

At the moment, it's teams the Lakers have traded with or a team that never needed cap space because they drafted one of the top 10 players of all time.

cap space and the lottery...two of the biggest pipe dreams of nba history.
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7/4/2007  8:17 PM
Posted by kam77:

CHI will be regretting how they spent the spoils of the Curry trade in a year or two. Pheonix hasn't won with their boy Nash yet. Orlando has now maxed themselves out of the FA game and didn't improve appreciably. Portland.. who cares. They're out west.

Oh I get it Orlando was supposed to sign Lewis, Kapono, Wallace, Carroll, Darko, and Pietrus with $15mil of cap space. You do realize if Orlando let things play out for a yr they have cap space next yr also even with the signing of Lewis and Howard extension?

Meanwhile we've blown our cap to smithereens and haven't even made the playoffs for 3yrs straight and highly possibly counting.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-04-2007 7:18 PM]
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7/4/2007  8:19 PM
and have the same record and upside and the magic can't even resign darko.

Have we really blown our cap to smithereens, or kept it blown?

Also, what's the cap looking like next year?
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7/4/2007  8:22 PM
i agree. 33 wins are the same as 49, 57, and 60 wins. or winning 47 after only 20 something the year before.

in fact, winning a championship...what does that really mean anyway? it's just a trophy anybody can buy in the store, so in essence, since we can buy more trophies than anybody else in the league, well i guess that makes us the best.

we are the best.
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7/4/2007  8:24 PM
"I dont play for a trophy. I play to win" - Marbury

[Edited by - kam77 on 07-04-2007 8:24 PM]
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/4/2007  8:25 PM
progress baby...progress.
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7/4/2007  8:29 PM
The logic that says we didn't help the teams because they didn't win the championship really eludes me. Come on....you gotta come up with someting better than that.
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7/4/2007  8:29 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

Hey, all those guys got cap room, but end up with the same number of titles as the knicks. Yeah they got playoffs, but we got more money for our playoffs.

Cap room is looking more and more like a myth that people are clinging to to bash the knicks.

When Phoenix, Chicago, Orlando or portland win a title, then we can say we did something.

Until then, it's as much as a myth as picking first in the draft (see mineesota and olawakandi)

unlike us, many teams can't just spend spend spend.

they made big money acquisitions...and realized they were mistakes. but since we can take on ridiculous amount of funds, we actually helped them get rid of their mistakes. so from their point of view, they won every trade.

now, did we upgrade our talent level? yes we did. but unfortunately, all of that is subjective. there must be some way to quantify whether a team improves or not...something not subjective. and so far, we have no indications we have.

maybe one day we will, but so far, we haven't.

we didn't win a ring with ewing. we probably won't win a ring with isiah as gm. so if the attitude is "well they didn't win titles", well then what's the point of watching this team?
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7/4/2007  8:30 PM
Posted by Andrew:

The logic that says we didn't help the teams because they didn't win the championship really eludes me. Come on....you gotta come up with someting better than that.

Do you think we should care who we help?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/4/2007  8:30 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

I'd like to see a post after a team wins that the knicks have traded with under isiah.

Nazr to San Antonio
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7/4/2007  8:31 PM
Come on
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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