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earthmansurfer
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7/4/2007  11:10 AM
I want him as bad as most, but why are so many willing to give up so much when we can have him sign here in one year as a free agent? He already said he would opt out of his contract and was strong about wanting to play only for NY.

No David Lee, Balkman, the rookies for this kid. Maybe Nate...
I'm content in waiting a year and I think we all know, SAC IS NOT.
And what other team is going to give up more than us knowing he will opt out and be with us next year? Not to mention he really is a bit sick in the head?

Come on Isiah, use your power, don't make another Curry mistake and bid against yourself.
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7/4/2007  12:19 PM
If all we have to do is give up Nate, then I might be for the deal even though I think bringing Artest to NY is a bad idea in general. But if we have to give up Balkman or Lee, then I say no. We can give Artest the full MLE next year like earthmansurfer says. Unless Artest has a great year next year, I don't think many teams will be willing to commit to him longterm.
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7/4/2007  12:32 PM
Artest said he'd opt out. He will come here for the MLE eventually. Why rush it.
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7/4/2007  12:50 PM
Posted by kam77:

Artest said he'd opt out. He will come here for the MLE eventually. Why rush it.

Some people think that Artest could be the missing piece. So it makes sense to rush it. I wouldn't part with anything except a draft pick but I don't think you need to do that. Ron has baggage on and off the court. Randolph has baggage off the court. The shame of it is that Thomas has proven to be the only guy that Ron responds to well.
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7/4/2007  12:56 PM
So if the knicks wait a year to possibly sign artest, what do they do now? Knicks have 17 players and they need to cut 2. I'm not a fan of just cutting Fred and dickau. I'm also not a fan of waiving Nichols or malik. Jerome James can get waived but that still leaves 1 spot that has to get dumped.

A trade has to happen. Malik and Nate wrestle in the shower all they want in sactown. Sactown, two naked dude wrestling in the shower? Classic.
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7/4/2007  1:10 PM
Jefferies and Nate for Artest. I think this team will need JJ1 before it is all said and done with. A Fat Jerome is still this team best post defender.
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7/4/2007  1:12 PM
I can't believe that people who moan about giving up too much for a young, developing Eddy Curry want to throw in the whole team for Ron Artest, who Sacramento is very anxious to trade.
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7/4/2007  1:43 PM
why not trade for him for jj/nate? that way if he blows up he only has one year left or we eat one year of contract. if he blows up in the first or second yr of a 5 yr mle...then what? personally, i think he'll be fine regardless but who knows w/ron ron.
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7/4/2007  1:48 PM
Bring Crazy Ron to New York. Let the Knicks be a team of cast-offs, losers & lunatics. It's a classic formula for a made-for-tv movie about a bunch of guys no one else wants who go on to win it all!

and even if they don't win, we'll still be entertained.


[Edited by - basketballjones on 07-04-2007 13:50]
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7/4/2007  1:54 PM
Basketball you are exactly right. I think we need to trade Lee for Pacman jones, and I heard Tank Johnson has a sweet J. I think if we can bring Chris Washburn and Roy Tarpley back then this team can win it all. The first 46 minutes of a game is won with talent the last two with character and coaching.
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7/4/2007  2:04 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

So if the knicks wait a year to possibly sign artest, what do they do now? Knicks have 17 players and they need to cut 2. I'm not a fan of just cutting Fred and dickau. I'm also not a fan of waiving Nichols or malik. Jerome James can get waived but that still leaves 1 spot that has to get dumped.

A trade has to happen. Malik and Nate wrestle in the shower all they want in sactown. Sactown, two naked dude wrestling in the shower? Classic.
We can just try a different trade. If that doesn't work we have to cut players. But someone will bite. No reason to sacrifice so much right now.
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7/4/2007  2:54 PM
Anything more than giving up Nate and a protected pick for Artest is too much and I really don't even want to give up Nate because he is our best 3pt shooter.
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7/4/2007  4:20 PM
I think Artest is mentally ill. I think Isiah is aware of this and that this is the only reason he is not a Knick. I don't think he can handle Artest. I know he struggled with him in Indiana. The only difference is that Isiah has more power with the Knicks. I would hate to see Lee go.
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7/4/2007  4:45 PM
If you can't steal him, forget it.
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7/4/2007  4:53 PM
Posted by CrushAlot:

I think Artest is mentally ill.

Then he's a perfect fit for the Knicks. Go get him Isiah!
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7/4/2007  5:20 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

So if the knicks wait a year to possibly sign artest, what do they do now? Knicks have 17 players and they need to cut 2. I'm not a fan of just cutting Fred and dickau. I'm also not a fan of waiving Nichols or malik. Jerome James can get waived but that still leaves 1 spot that has to get dumped.

A trade has to happen. Malik and Nate wrestle in the shower all they want in sactown. Sactown, two naked dude wrestling in the shower? Classic.


You're right. Normally the prudent thing to do would be to wait, but we have to ditch 2 players right now so we might as well get something back for them.
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7/4/2007  5:25 PM
i think it's 50/50 right now artest becomes a knick. we're gonna have to take back kt/sar while giving up q and/or malik.

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7/4/2007  5:48 PM
Ive got the cap increasing deal that pairs down the roster and gives us the most talent.

James, Rose, Morris/Collins/Nate, Jones & Dick
For
Artest, Sars and KT

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3~25~849~1706~383~1718~3179~739&teams=18~18~18~23~23~23~23~23


Curry/Lee
Zach/Sars/KT
Artest/Q/JJ2/Balkman
JC/nate
Marbury/Collins

[Edited by - Anji on 07-04-2007 5:52 PM]
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7/4/2007  6:49 PM
Posted by Anji:

Ive got the cap increasing deal that pairs down the roster and gives us the most talent.

James, Rose, Morris/Collins/Nate, Jones & Dick
For
Artest, Sars and KT

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=3~25~849~1706~383~1718~3179~739&teams=18~18~18~23~23~23~23~23


Curry/Lee
Zach/Sars/KT
Artest/Q/JJ2/Balkman
JC/nate
Marbury/Collins

[Edited by - Anji on 07-04-2007 5:52 PM]

Hell No! Why don't we just wait till he signs next summer
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7/4/2007  6:58 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:


The shame of it is that Thomas has proven to be the only guy that Ron responds to well.

then why did he have his best season under Carlisle?

18pts 5 rebs 4 assts 73 games played career high at the time 37mpg

61 wins and the ECF's

[Edited by - McK1 on 04-07-2007 7:00 PM]
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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