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At first glance I thought our draft day trade for Randolph was helpful because we were getting rid of Francis and I figured Randolph is off the books by 09 when the majority of our contracts are gone. I just went on hoopshype.com to check out his salary and realized his contract doesnt end until after 2011. We are now majorily Fu##cked! Our team is stacked with players who dont play any defense. I was hoping Isiah had the decency to get us under the cap by 2009 or 2010 the latest. Many of you disagree and feel cap space means nothing. It may not get us a championship but I am sure it wouldnt hurt to have cap space for a superstar player or solid allstar or two. Our only chances are having capspace and drafting wisely. In the 90's we had Ewing then got Starks, Oakley, Mase, Harper, Houston ,Spree, Camby, LJ with capspace and wise decisions.

I mentioned 3 or 4 games into the season that we only have 2 and maybe 3 good players. Q Rich (who has a bad back) D Lee (injured last season) and Balkman as a solid prospect. Collins showed some signs at the end of the year with his defense and agressive play. The rest of our team are overpaid, stink, think they are owed something (Curry is not an allstar) and needs to go. We have no 2 way players, no franchise player, and no superstar. Isiah was one of the best ball players in his day but is a garbage ass business man. I am fully behind isles and MS stance and desire towards his dismissal How on earth did he get an extension? It is clear as day that Dolan whispers in his ear to get us in the playoffs at all costs so he can sell more seats and season tickets. What's more funny is we wast our heard earned money on Optimum Online, Optimum voice, IO Cable TV, Knicks Tickets, food, merchandise, writing about our disgust because of abysmal ownership and management. I honestly believe I could run the team better than Isiah no matter what anyone says. A monkey could run the Knicks better than Isiah. He clearly has not learned from all of his mistakes. Fake ass smile, phony attitude.

I would start Curry, Lee, Balkman, Crawford, Marbury and try to rid Curry and Crawford's contracts (they are career overpaid losers who play no defense and will not get better) for smaller ones even if we have to take back less talented players. I think a firesale would be good while just retaining Lee, Balkman and Collins. In the meantime we continue to draft players. Then in 09 we use our capspace wisely without rushing any decisions. I think we are failing to realize we wouldnt win anything or make the playoffs. Lee, Balkman are solid players who show effort and play w heart. Compare their play to the rest of the team. Those two are on a different planet than the rest of our "Knicks". I will even go as far to say that Lee and Balkman so far look like championship type role players. The rest of our players are built on false hopes. I wouldnt be suprised if Marbury and Curry were just "chillen" now rather than working on their game and defense. What makes matters worse is the NBA is becoming more athletic, therefore Lee and Balkman might not have that extra advantage in the lane and on the boards that they previously had.

Randolph in Portland is 20, 10 no defense. In NY I see 13, 7 less defense and once again noone to represent us in the 2008 Allstar Game. What an enforcer we got for Curry! I hope Wilson Chandler is good because we have plenty of fowards. I thought we could use some outside shooting and interior defense? Why cant we just stay pat instead of spiraling towards oblivion. We have been digressing everyday since Ewing left with 0 progress. What's funny is the MSG crowd, Jackson, and SAS applauding this deal. We are not making the playoffs and only a miracle will get us better than 7th seed. Is Curry going to shoot midrange jumpshots? Will he jump for a rebound?

Thanks Isiah for crushing my hopes for capspace in 09. You really have no clue how to run a franchise. (Baker, Francis, JJ1, JJ2, Penny, Marbury, Randolph, Crawford, Curry, etc.... Keep overpaying over the hill players. I am available too! Where is the application.. I mean where do I sign?
NYK's are about defense, not sissy basketball.

We definitely need a new owner. Maybe everyone cancels their Cable and the Garden becomes empty every night. That might change managements objectives, goals and tune.

I cry for the 92-95 Knicks!

This guy knows what he's talking about.

We're stuck with Dolan until he gets bored or something. Even though we've been losing, this "asset" (his term for the team) still lines those deep pockets of his.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

First of all Calm down and come back in off the ledge. We could have worked towards cap space, but then again why waste the next 2 years? We're in the East and it's wide open. If we can get this group to play together which we should since really the only major change is Frye for Zach, we'll be in the mix in the East. Zach will be 26 on July 16th. I doubt highly that Zach will only avg. 13-7 here. Zach isn't only a low post player either. He's very versatile.

Isiah also just added Morris, Chandler and Nichols for the future. We know Isiah has a good eye for talent, so if 2 of those guys panout, we should be in great shape for the future. We already know Balkman and Mardy can bring the kind of defense we need and they stand to improve. Overall this team is loaded with talent and it's a young team. What else can you want at this point?

So now you're saying Lebron, Kobe, and Wade aren't worth the wait? You need to keep a log of your own posts and make sure they are in full harmony as of right now you're seriously way out of tune. Why do you find it so difficult to be consistent?

OH SHUT THE HELL UP! You don't now what you're talking about. If you really paid any attention to what I write you'd notice that i NEVER said that we should ONLY look to get under the cap. I've said that we had that as a valid option. A trade was always a possiblity and I even explored those posibilities. BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND KEEP TALKING CRAP!!! I like the idea of getting under the cap, but in truth there's no guarantee that you'll get one of those players even if you have cap space. Perhaps Isiah didn't want to wait that long and only come up empty. This way he strengthens the team now and can take a shot while the Conf. is still up for grabs.

Right now with the East being such a crap shoot ie Cavs made the finals, there's a chance any team can make it.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nixluva:

First of all Calm down and come back in off the ledge. We could have worked towards cap space, but then again why waste the next 2 years? We're in the East and it's wide open. If we can get this group to play together which we should since really the only major change is Frye for Zach, we'll be in the mix in the East. Zach will be 26 on July 16th. I doubt highly that Zach will only avg. 13-7 here. Zach isn't only a low post player either. He's very versatile.

Isiah also just added Morris, Chandler and Nichols for the future. We know Isiah has a good eye for talent, so if 2 of those guys panout, we should be in great shape for the future. We already know Balkman and Mardy can bring the kind of defense we need and they stand to improve. Overall this team is loaded with talent and it's a young team. What else can you want at this point?

So now you're saying Lebron, Kobe, and Wade aren't worth the wait? You need to keep a log of your own posts and make sure they are in full harmony as of right now you're seriously way out of tune. Why do you find it so difficult to be consistent?

OH SHUT THE HELL UP! You don't now what you're talking about. If you really paid any attention to what I write you'd notice that i NEVER said that we should ONLY look to get under the cap. I've said that we had that as a valid option. A trade was always a possiblity and I even explored those posibilities. BUT YOU GO AHEAD AND KEEP TALKING CRAP!!! I like the idea of getting under the cap, but in truth there's no guarantee that you'll get one of those players even if you have cap space. Perhaps Isiah didn't want to wait that long and only come up empty. This way he strengthens the team now and can take a shot while the Conf. is still up for grabs.

Right now with the East being such a crap shoot ie Cavs made the finals, there's a chance any team can make it.

You specifically said that was I SAY UGH's plan. You were somewhat miffed why we were mocking the plan to be fiscally responsible when that's what most sane fans wanted him to do 2-3yrs ago. You were saying things like well "At least I SAY UGH recognizes now this is what needs to be done stop chopping at the man's balls". Now you're in backtrack mode as usual, you cross your wires, you electrocute yourself. Brush up on your positives, negatives, and grounds and maybe this wouldn't happen so often.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2007 01:30 AM]

Posted by OffDaMeterzzzz:

Last year if you watched the first 5, no more than 10 games you already knew we have only 3 good players.

Lee
Balkman
Q ( I am assuming his contributions or career are done because of his back)

Now.. the pattern of dumb trades continues.
Portland used us to get rid of Randolph's contract just to get a shorter contract. They dont care about Frye and Francis. They got rid of their dead weight and to save tons of money and get a very cheap low potential chip in Frye. We got used and abused once again. The NYK's are the one's in need of getting shorter contracts and ridding dead weight. Haven't we learned enough already with the previous 20 fecal signings.

You ask me to calm down... That is difficult, considering we stink for what what will be approaching a decade, yet our problems are based on decision making and intelligence rather than economic.

Randolph will get us to maybe 37 -38 wins... Big deal. We should have made no deal at all and let Francis's contract run out. We just re-mortgaged our future for the millionth time.

Nix you are a grown man and saw the good days.. Why all the belief in Santa theories and rainbow dreams? If we were a defensive unit, winning team, or an up and coming team I would be more "calm" about my favorite team. However we are by far the worst run franchise in the NBA and possible in all major professional sports.

What is so freaking hard about drafting wisely, letting contracts run out, and getting under the cap to give ourselves a chance to be good once again? I think Kobe, Lebron, Wade or whoever (is a pro and plays defense) would be very interested in coming to NY if we had a young foundation of solid players and cap space. We have nothing right now except Lee and Balkman.

You want to know the really sad part to this trade?....Not only does it CLUSTERSTARPHUCK us with PDX abusing us in the process but PDX have set themselves up to land Kobe, Lebron, or Wade in 2-3yrs if they maintain their fiscal responsibility.

49, you're contradicting yourself.


You're saying we're phucked, but that we also have a chance.


I mean I do agree the East is weak as heck, but cmon.........talent doesn't win unless that talent is Kobe or Duncan. And even then you need parts that fit them.

I would feel semi-positive if Marbury and Randolph were our 2 pieces building around.

But we also have Curry and Crawford, and that phucks things up.

In fact you might as well get Dolan to buy the Sonics, trade Durant for a 2nd rounder, and have 2 Knick teams:

Marbury and Randolph vs. Crawford and Curry.


Fun, huh?

Never.

I think they can make the playoffs, but this trade put a ceiling on their future.

Welcome to Dolan's world. He plays the fans for suckers.

Posted by OffDaMeterzzzz:

I guess Isiah will infinitely keep tossing salad until he finds the right blend or rocks the boat.

Until then no playoffs, no championship, no contention, nothing.
How many chances do you get to roll the dice, my goodness.

Artest defintely fills our needs much more. (Defense and production from SF spot) His contract is reasonable and ends in 09. Some of us dont get it, some of eventually do and some of never will. Dolan and IT will never get it. We are striving to be homers, but are not given the chance.

Money, Commericalism has definitley ruined and watered down the league. Fake flops, sissy basketball, abuse of the hip hop era, no defense, no NBC, wack *** ABC, no Marv Albert. We need to bring back 80's 90's basketball anyway possible. ie: Bring back the old rules. Play physical ball.

man this guy is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters.


[Edited by - bobs3304 on 06-29-2007 02:56 AM]