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Which is our weakest position?
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bigbeast
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6/26/2007  12:20 PM
The board seems split on who we should target in this upcomming draft.

Most want Sean Williams (Power Forward)
Others want Almond (shooting guard)
A few wouldn't mind Chandler/Byars (Small Forward).

Obviously, we are not particularly strong/solid at any one position. Too many mismatch parts that just don't fit. But just looking at our roster as is, which spot would you say is the weakest?

Personally, i think our weakest position is the SF position. JJ is a situational player. He shouldn't be a regular rotation player. He's the type you throw out there after you've exhausted all other options. He's ideal to put in the game when your up one, and need a key stop on an opposing SF to ensure that offensive player will have to take a tough shot over JJ's long arms. But playing JJ too many minites kills the flow of your team offensively and he isn't that good defensively anyway.

Balk is a nice energy player off the bench. Could start if we had a stud PF (KG). But for the most part, he's a 7th/8th man.

Q is a power 2 guard with a damaged back. Not saying we are solid at the other positions. But by default, SF is our weakest pos. Steph and Mardy are better at point that what we have at SF. Same with Craw, Fran and Nate at the 2, Lee/Frye at PF and Curry at the 5.



[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-06-2007 12:20 PM]

[Edited by - bigbeast on 26-06-2007 12:22 PM]
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6/26/2007  12:26 PM
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6/26/2007  12:27 PM
Posted by TMS:

SF

why?

Q
JJ
Balk
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6/26/2007  12:30 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:

SF

why?

Q
JJ
Balk

Q's more of a power SG like bigbeast said IMO... JJ's barely an NBA calibre player in my eyes... i like Balk but he's still very raw.
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6/26/2007  12:35 PM
Too many mismatch parts that just don't fit.

Not only don't they fit but nobody has any idea what they're trying to fit. They have no style of play. They just have a collection of mismatched players that they're paying a lot of money for already so they figure they might as well play them and hope for a style to magically appear.

If they're building around Curry then they need a shooter. Morris is the only player they could pick where I wouldn't kill Isiah.
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6/26/2007  1:27 PM
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6/26/2007  1:32 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Too many mismatch parts that just don't fit.

Not only don't they fit but nobody has any idea what they're trying to fit. They have no style of play. They just have a collection of mismatched players that they're paying a lot of money for already so they figure they might as well play them and hope for a style to magically appear.

If they're building around Curry then they need a shooter. Morris is the only player they could pick where I wouldn't kill Isiah.

You know better than anyone that we need interior defensive help. I guess your not to keen on Sean "weed" Williams.
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6/26/2007  1:33 PM
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6/26/2007  1:51 PM
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by islesfan:
Too many mismatch parts that just don't fit.

Not only don't they fit but nobody has any idea what they're trying to fit. They have no style of play. They just have a collection of mismatched players that they're paying a lot of money for already so they figure they might as well play them and hope for a style to magically appear.

If they're building around Curry then they need a shooter. Morris is the only player they could pick where I wouldn't kill Isiah.

You know better than anyone that we need interior defensive help. I guess your not to keen on Sean "weed" Williams.

Sean Williams is so stupid he put his weed ahead of staying on this college team and risking a high paying NBA career. If he gets paid anyway, what makes you think he's going to start doing the right thing? Add to that he's refusing to work out for teams (including the Knicks) and there are huge questions about his offensive ability. He would probably be the dumbest pick possible.

Plus where are they playing him? Ahead of Jeffries with Isiah admitting he made another huge mistake with the MLE? Ahead of Frye and Lee? Don't think so.
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6/26/2007  2:02 PM
Point guard..........
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6/26/2007  2:13 PM
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6/26/2007  2:20 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

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6/26/2007  2:23 PM
Even though Marbury is my fav player, I have to say Point Guard. We need a straight pass first point guard with a deadly jumpshot. Being that there is no one like that in the draft, I think we just get the player with the highest upside and develop him into a BEAST behind the scenes.
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6/26/2007  2:32 PM
We have a bunch of players with big strengths and big weaknesses, like Lee, Curry, Balkman, Craw, Frye etc...

A general weak point is not really the issue.

Where we can fix things the easiest is if we can get a shotblocking, rebounding fiend at PF, or someone who can come in off the bench and shoot the lights out from three when the zone collapses on Curry.

If we got S. Williams or Splitter, you would think that Frye and Lee could be traded easily.

If we get a great shooter then Nate and Craw could be gone.

Otherwise whoever we get is not going to have an impact and you might as well stash a Euro for a couple of years.
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6/27/2007  8:42 AM
The issue is not what was our weakest position, without any new faces, what will be our weakest position in the upcoming year. Unfortunately, I think the answer is SG. Jamal Crawford seems to be too weak to be able to avoid being a defensive liability. Q seems to be unable to get off shot when tightly guarded. Nate doesn't seem to be able to have sufficient BB IQ to make himself a valuable contributor. I think Stephon Marbury is out best SG candidate this year with Mardy Collins playing point guard.

Balkman demonstrated during the end of last season that he can make valuble contributions playing SF. He can defend, and rebound well and create his own opportunities to score. I think his contribution at SF would be more valuable than Jamal Crawford's contribution at SG because of Crawford's weakness in playing defense.
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6/27/2007  8:52 AM
2 or 3. If you consider Q a 3, the weakest position is 2. Crawford's inconsistent offensively and is a turnstyle on d. If you consider Q a 2, then it's 3. Neither JJ2 or Balkman supply enough o.
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6/27/2007  8:56 AM
it really doesn't matter what is our weakest position, we have too many holes. If we can fill most of the holes it would be nice.
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6/27/2007  9:21 AM
"Neither JJ2 or Balkman supply enough o."

I don't know that I agree with that. First, Balkman finally got a chance to play very late in the season and did put up some good numbers. Second, he has been working on his offense in the off season, and I don't think you can definitely rule out that he might not show some significant improvement. Third, as Lee demonstrates at power forward, if you do enough good things with rebounding and put backs, and other intangibles you can become quite valuable even without a great outside jump shot. I predict that Q will start at SF at the beginning of this year, but I expect Balkman to get plenty of minutes and to make valuable contributions even if his jumpshot is still not ready, taking a page from David Lee's playbook.
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6/27/2007  9:22 AM
If you are talking about the draft and then you are talking about backup or end of the bench we have need only in SG.
If you talking about trade and get a starter we need C, SF, SG and PG
I dont like Eddy, Jerffries, Craf, and Marbs as starters. No stability. All 4 are good backup players but they are payed like starters, actually like stars. End of the tunnel...
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6/27/2007  10:13 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by islesfan:
Too many mismatch parts that just don't fit.

Not only don't they fit but nobody has any idea what they're trying to fit. They have no style of play. They just have a collection of mismatched players that they're paying a lot of money for already so they figure they might as well play them and hope for a style to magically appear.

If they're building around Curry then they need a shooter. Morris is the only player they could pick where I wouldn't kill Isiah.

You know better than anyone that we need interior defensive help. I guess your not to keen on Sean "weed" Williams.

Sean Williams is so stupid he put his weed ahead of staying on this college team and risking a high paying NBA career. If he gets paid anyway, what makes you think he's going to start doing the right thing? Add to that he's refusing to work out for teams (including the Knicks) and there are huge questions about his offensive ability. He would probably be the dumbest pick possible.

Plus where are they playing him? Ahead of Jeffries with Isiah admitting he made another huge mistake with the MLE? Ahead of Frye and Lee? Don't think so.

Got to agree with you on Sean Williams, when he finally gives the Knicks a private workout. He does this:

"I'll give you an example," Lucas said yesterday. "He had a workout for three teams the other day and he stayed up playing video games with his 10-year-old brother until 3. That comes from being immature." - John Lucas talks about Sean Williams nite before working out for the Knicks.
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