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TrueBlue
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6/18/2007  2:02 PM
They are supposedly talking

I refuse to actually post the link source because I despise the person behind the rumor.

Someone else can do the honors and if it has any legs then LOL @ the Phx/Garnett done deal rumor.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-18-2007 1:13 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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6/18/2007  2:07 PM
KG on the move? Why a Garnett trade might -- or might not -- happen
By Chad Ford
ESPN.com

Over the weekend, several Eastern Conference general managers told ESPN.com that Minnesota Timberwolves GM Kevin McHale is finally listening to trade offers for Wolves superstar Kevin Garnett.

Any number of teams would want to get involved in the KG sweepstakes, if indeed bidding has opened.

For a couple of years, the Bulls have seemed to be a natural destination for the former Chicago high school star. Bulls GM John Paxson has stockpiled a lot of young talent that could potentially go to Minnesota in a trade.

But the Wolves might have missed their best chance to make a Chicago deal work. With P.J. Brown entering free agency, two things would have to happen for a KG-to-Chicago trade to be possible: (1) the Bulls would need Brown to agree to a sign-and-trade to make the numbers work, and (2) the Wolves would have to pay Brown upward of $10 million next season. If those two conditions are not met, it's very unlikely the Bulls and Wolves will be able to make a KG deal under the rules of the collective bargaining agreement.

If KG's not going to Chicago, where could he go? From what I'm hearing -- and at this point it's just a hot rumor -- the Wolves and Boston Celtics are talking about a Garnett deal.

In this scenario, Boston would send Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Theo Ratliff, and change to Minnesota along with the No. 5 pick in the upcoming draft. In exchange, the Celtics would get Garnett.

While a six-for-one trade would create some awkward roster dilemmas, it could work for Boston in this case because the Celtics would be giving up only one member of their core: Jefferson. Meanwhile, the Timberwolves would get an emerging low-post star, a wing player with a lot of upside, another high draft pick and future cap flexibility.

On Saturday, I spoke with Celtics vice president Danny Ainge about the rumor, but he would not comment on specific trade discussions. He did say the Celtics were talking with a lot of teams at the moment about a number of different trade scenarios, but that none of them were close to happening.

One could argue that the Celtics would be better off trading Paul Pierce and continuing to create a younger team. But if they are committed to keeping Pierce and trying for more immediate success, the Garnett deal would make sense for the Celtics. A combination of Garnett and Pierce would make the Celtics instant contenders in the Eastern Conference.

Even if the Wolves could come to an agreement with the Celtics (or another team) on which players should be involved in a Garnett deal, there are some logistical and risk issues that might kill such a deal.

For Minnesota, Garnett won't be easy to trade to any team.

Garnett is due to be paid $22 million next season, and he could be owed about $3 million more than that because his trade kicker is 15 percent. That makes the mere act of balancing salaries a challenge in any Garnett trade, given the restrictions of the collective bargaining agreement.

On the other hand, to make a trade work under the CBA, Garnett would be allowed to waive part of his trade kicker, if he so chose.

At the same time, acquiring Garnett would come with plenty of risk for the Celtics or any other team.

Garnett can opt out of his contract at the end of next season, meaning that teams may be reluctant to trade a lot of assets for him, given that he could leave next year.

While the Celtics might be willing to offer Garnett a multiyear extension, they would not be allowed to negotiate with Garnett until after both July 1 and the trade. Therefore Boston would run the risk of making a major play for Garnett, only to watch him walk away after one season in Celtic Green.

And if the Celtics are willing to offer Garnett an extension, how many years and millions should they offer? Garnett is already 31 years old.

Furthermore, with Garnett and Pierce eating most of the team's cap room, Boston's financial flexibility to make moves to the supporting cast would be severely limited.

So even if Garnett were available, and even though the trade proposed above would be a good one for Boston on paper, it's not the no-brainer it might appear to be at first glance.
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6/18/2007  2:56 PM
I hope Boston makes that trade. They'll be a contender for a year or two while we're still rebuilding and then they'll be out of the picture for a long time.
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6/18/2007  3:04 PM
Posted by Ira:

I hope Boston makes that trade. They'll be a contender for a year or two while we're still rebuilding and then they'll be out of the picture for a long time.

KG is one of the most over-rated superstars of the modern era. Although he has numbers that kind of mirror guys like duncan ewing robinson hakeem mourning--he is a CLEAR tier below--he hasnt devloped a go to shot in 10+ years he's not a big time scorer-- I would NOT clean the bank out for him--I dont think Boston will do it.
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6/18/2007  3:09 PM
Dude, look who he is playing with? He has a great turn around jumper and they have to play him so many minutes to even stay in the games...

Stats don't tell the story but

22.4pts 12.8rbs 4.1ass 1.2stl 1.7blks you can't really name another player in the league that is that consistent, the guy is averagin 5ass for his career, thats the same number or rbs eddy has averaged in his 7 year career
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6/18/2007  3:11 PM
KG + pierce is as good a tandem as you can get in the nba today.
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6/18/2007  3:48 PM
Had Sam Cassell and Troy Hudson not gotten injured in 2004, I truly belive the Wolves go to the Finals in 2004 instead of the dysfunctional Lakers.
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6/18/2007  3:49 PM
Posted by K22:

Had Sam Cassell and Troy Hudson not gotten injured in 2004, I truly belive the Wolves go to the Finals in 2004 instead of the dysfunctional Lakers.

or if flip wasn't their head coach.
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6/18/2007  3:56 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by K22:

Had Sam Cassell and Troy Hudson not gotten injured in 2004, I truly belive the Wolves go to the Finals in 2004 instead of the dysfunctional Lakers.

or if flip wasn't their head coach.

Point.

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6/18/2007  9:13 PM
Posted by MS:

Dude, look who he is playing with? He has a great turn around jumper and they have to play him so many minutes to even stay in the games...

Stats don't tell the story but

22.4pts 12.8rbs 4.1ass 1.2stl 1.7blks you can't really name another player in the league that is that consistent, the guy is averagin 5ass for his career, thats the same number or rbs eddy has averaged in his 7 year career
I agree with that. His turnaround move in the paint is excellent too. He's capable of playing five positions on BOTH ends of the court (although you probably wouldn't ever have to play him in the backcourt)

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6/18/2007  10:05 PM
Jefferson, Green, Telfair and the no.5? Wow...that's a lot to give up...
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6/18/2007  10:38 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Jefferson, Green, Telfair and the no.5? Wow...that's a lot to give up...

how about we give up D Lee, Frye, Balkman, Collins & our #23 for KG? oh right, that's a garbage package... my bad.
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djsunyc
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6/18/2007  10:41 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Jefferson, Green, Telfair and the no.5? Wow...that's a lot to give up...

i don't think it is. i think kg + pierce give them the best tandem in the league.
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6/18/2007  10:41 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by VDesai:

Jefferson, Green, Telfair and the no.5? Wow...that's a lot to give up...

how about we give up D Lee, Frye, Balkman, Collins & our #23 for KG? oh right, that's a garbage package... my bad.

If you knew it, why did you post it?
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6/18/2007  10:43 PM
i was being facetious
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VDesai
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6/18/2007  10:47 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:

Jefferson, Green, Telfair and the no.5? Wow...that's a lot to give up...

i don't think it is. i think kg + pierce give them the best tandem in the league.

Not saying that Jefferson is better than Garnett or ever will be better than Garnett, but a 16/11 player at his age, only getting better and a young talent the Caliber of Green, plus a pick that could be Horford or one of the Wrights...thats a tough one.

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6/18/2007  10:49 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:

Jefferson, Green, Telfair and the no.5? Wow...that's a lot to give up...

i don't think it is. i think kg + pierce give them the best tandem in the league.

Not saying that Jefferson is better than Garnett or ever will be better than Garnett, but a 16/11 player at his age, only getting better and a young talent the Caliber of Green, plus a pick that could be Horford or one of the Wrights...thats a tough one.

but this is KG. boston immediately catapults to the top of the east for the next 3 years. you have to make this move.

if the rest of the east is rebuilding, what guarantee that you are going to be an elite team in a rebuilding conference? but if you put kg + pierce together, the only team that will give them problems are the pistons and they're close to blowing it up too.

and kg + pierce will produce in the finals too.
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6/18/2007  10:54 PM
Posted by TMS:

i was being facetious

So was I.
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6/18/2007  10:54 PM
I tend more to the Briggs opinion on KG, so I don't see them blowing up the way you do. If Pierce/Szerbs (ironic KG would be playing with Wally World) stay healthy they are definitely dangerous. They'd need another player up front, or at least need Perkins to blow up.
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6/18/2007  11:54 PM
Briggs, KG's turnaround baseline J is about as $$$ as you can get.
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