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misterearl
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6/11/2007  3:24 PM
If bonus signing Randolph Morris meets first rounder Jason Smith in the paint, which guy is able to muscle for better position?

"Colorado State’s Jason Smith, a finesse 7-footer moving up and into the first round on many draft boards of late, also does not lack in confidence. “I bet I could come in and be a starter for the Knicks,” he said. “Look, I‘ve got the fight in me to get better. I work hard every day. I can face the basket or play down low. I’m not afraid to do the dirty jobs. I’ll do anything to help my team.”

just curious about what you guys think at first glance

http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/workouts_070609.html

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-11-2007 3:26 PM]
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Allanfan20
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6/11/2007  4:14 PM
Randolf Morris is fat and ugly, almost like Curry.
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misterearl
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6/11/2007  4:22 PM
Allanfan20 - your comment is a direct reflection of (or lack of) your maturity

I find it hard to believe that the absolute BEST you can do. oh well.

so much for talking Knicks basketball in the off season

You may now return to your regularly scheduled enlightened analysis.
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6/11/2007  4:31 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Allanfan20 - your comment is a direct reflection of (or lack of) your maturity

I find it hard to believe that the absolute BEST you can do. oh well.

so much for talking Knicks basketball in the off season

You may now return to your regularly scheduled enlightened analysis.

We hear the same stuff about all the young "studs" Isiah picks up (like Jackie B, Q Woods, DerMarr Johnson) and then the Isiah/Dolan lovers climax all summer. And then these players don't last more than a few months on the team and we quickly learn the obvious reasons why no one else wanted the players.
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6/11/2007  4:36 PM
You wrote this:
obvious reasons why no one else wanted the players.

While guys like DJ and JB cash in million dollar paychecks from other ball clubs.

So no, you didn't make a point unless its that Qyntel Woods was the product of media hype and we're all fools for liking him.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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6/11/2007  6:28 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

Allanfan20 - your comment is a direct reflection of (or lack of) your maturity

I find it hard to believe that the absolute BEST you can do. oh well.

so much for talking Knicks basketball in the off season

You may now return to your regularly scheduled enlightened analysis.

We hear the same stuff about all the young "studs" Isiah picks up (like Jackie B, Q Woods, DerMarr Johnson) and then the Isiah/Dolan lovers climax all summer. And then these players don't last more than a few months on the team and we quickly learn the obvious reasons why no one else wanted the players.

Bonn you should start taking your medicine again.

Butler was signed as a free agent by the Spurs.
Never wanted Woods. That was a Larry Brown find.
DerMarr Johnson was so unwanted that the Nuggets went after him immediately.

Please bring the old Bonn back. That guy may have been a gay robot but at least he was coherent.
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6/11/2007  7:10 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

Allanfan20 - your comment is a direct reflection of (or lack of) your maturity

I find it hard to believe that the absolute BEST you can do. oh well.

so much for talking Knicks basketball in the off season

You may now return to your regularly scheduled enlightened analysis.

We hear the same stuff about all the young "studs" Isiah picks up (like Jackie B, Q Woods, DerMarr Johnson) and then the Isiah/Dolan lovers climax all summer. And then these players don't last more than a few months on the team and we quickly learn the obvious reasons why no one else wanted the players.

Bonn you should start taking your medicine again.

Butler was signed as a free agent by the Spurs.
Never wanted Woods. That was a Larry Brown find.
DerMarr Johnson was so unwanted that the Nuggets went after him immediately.

Please bring the old Bonn back. That guy may have been a gay robot but at least he was coherent.
And which one of your points disproves what I said? My point is simple: Every year, Isiah signs one or two guys who were supposedly just off everyone else's radar. Then the Misterearls and Pharezones go wild about how the player's gonna be great; he replaces the draft picks that Isiah and Dolan (inevitably) gave up that off-season, etc. Then a few months later, they're either fringe NBA players or completely out of the league.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-06-2007 8:29 PM]
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6/11/2007  7:12 PM
Its been a long time since I have gotten all excited over a white seven footer.

And actions speak louder than words.

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6/11/2007  7:27 PM
Posted by bigpimpin:

Its been a long time since I have gotten all excited over a white seven footer.

And actions speak louder than words.

you haven't paid attention to this guy...



djsu crack induced prediction of the day - he will be better than okur within another year or two, and he will be better than dirk ever was within 4-5 years.
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6/11/2007  7:33 PM
Those are not white guys.
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6/11/2007  10:46 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

Allanfan20 - your comment is a direct reflection of (or lack of) your maturity

I find it hard to believe that the absolute BEST you can do. oh well.

so much for talking Knicks basketball in the off season

You may now return to your regularly scheduled enlightened analysis.

We hear the same stuff about all the young "studs" Isiah picks up (like Jackie B, Q Woods, DerMarr Johnson) and then the Isiah/Dolan lovers climax all summer. And then these players don't last more than a few months on the team and we quickly learn the obvious reasons why no one else wanted the players.

Bonn you should start taking your medicine again.

Butler was signed as a free agent by the Spurs.
Never wanted Woods. That was a Larry Brown find.
DerMarr Johnson was so unwanted that the Nuggets went after him immediately.

Please bring the old Bonn back. That guy may have been a gay robot but at least he was coherent.
And which one of your points disproves what I said? My point is simple: Every year, Isiah signs one or two guys who were supposedly just off everyone else's radar. Then the Misterearls and Pharezones go wild about how the player's gonna be great; he replaces the draft picks that Isiah and Dolan (inevitably) gave up that off-season, etc. Then a few months later, they're either fringe NBA players or completely out of the league.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-06-2007 8:29 PM]

Bonn, find me one post where I go wild about any draft pick. Knick or otherwise. I never go wild about anybody who hasn't proven jack **** in the NBA. I leave that to others. This only proves my point about you. I actually recall you going ape**** over Isiah pickups not me. Take the meds again, you're losing your memory.
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6/12/2007  12:15 AM
Let's get one thing straight. Randolph Morris may not be the sexy prospect some may look for, but he was able to more than handle Noah and Horford in the post. He had no problem scoring on those guys inside and defending against them too. He's got skills and an NBA body. He's no lightweight and I think he has a good chance to catch on in this league. 6-11 and 260, while being quick and agile is a good thing. He's not as explosive as a guy like D. Howard, but he is athletic enough. In short he's a VERY good prospect and I think he is being underrated by folks around here. If he was in this draft he'd be a solid pick in the mid 1st rd.
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6/12/2007  7:54 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by misterearl:

Allanfan20 - your comment is a direct reflection of (or lack of) your maturity

I find it hard to believe that the absolute BEST you can do. oh well.

so much for talking Knicks basketball in the off season

You may now return to your regularly scheduled enlightened analysis.

We hear the same stuff about all the young "studs" Isiah picks up (like Jackie B, Q Woods, DerMarr Johnson) and then the Isiah/Dolan lovers climax all summer. And then these players don't last more than a few months on the team and we quickly learn the obvious reasons why no one else wanted the players.

Bonn you should start taking your medicine again.

Butler was signed as a free agent by the Spurs.
Never wanted Woods. That was a Larry Brown find.
DerMarr Johnson was so unwanted that the Nuggets went after him immediately.

Please bring the old Bonn back. That guy may have been a gay robot but at least he was coherent.
And which one of your points disproves what I said? My point is simple: Every year, Isiah signs one or two guys who were supposedly just off everyone else's radar. Then the Misterearls and Pharezones go wild about how the player's gonna be great; he replaces the draft picks that Isiah and Dolan (inevitably) gave up that off-season, etc. Then a few months later, they're either fringe NBA players or completely out of the league.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 11-06-2007 8:29 PM]

Bonn, find me one post where I go wild about any draft pick... I actually recall you going ape**** over Isiah pickups not me.
I'll have to ask you to do the same and find me a post where I go "ape****" over a draft pick. And come on, the meds comment is just the kind of weak comment someone makes when they can't stick to the topic at hand.
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6/12/2007  9:31 AM
forget Isiah Thomas

I find it curious that absolutely no one (other than nixluva) wants to put their basketball (cough) reputation on the line, "man up" and take a clear stance on which available player they would prefer:

1. the projected mid-first rounder, forward/center Jason Smith

or

2. the late-season signing, forward/center Randolph Morris

one inquiring mind wants to know

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-12-2007 09:31 AM]
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6/12/2007  9:55 AM
Why is it either/or?
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6/12/2007  12:34 PM
Posted by misterearl:

forget Isiah Thomas

I find it curious that absolutely no one (other than nixluva) wants to put their basketball (cough) reputation on the line, "man up" and take a clear stance on which available player they would prefer:

1. the projected mid-first rounder, forward/center Jason Smith

or

2. the late-season signing, forward/center Randolph Morris

one inquiring mind wants to know

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-12-2007 09:31 AM]

misterearl, why are you just using Jason Smith as an example though?

This is what I say. If we're building around Curry, then we need other players who can compliment him. Hence, if we can get a shooter and/or shotblocker, that's far more important than having another low post scorer on the bench who may struggle to get playing time, especially if we still have Channing, Lee, Balkman, Jefferies, Quentin?, Malik, whatever draft pick, and so on. Now, Morris is a nice scorer in the post, and may or may not be able to play NBA defense, there's much better fits out there. This is, of course, assuming that we have to choose between the draft pick and Morris, as you implied. I personally would like to have both AND trade for another pick so we can have all 3 while getting the hell rid of the Francis's, Jerome Jame's, and Jared Jefferies of the world.

What am I saying misterearl? Randolf Morris, while looking like a nice Frosty the Snowman decoration, just doesn't seem to add any substance to the team as of right now.

[Edited by - Allanfan20 on 12-06-2007 12:38 PM]
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6/12/2007  1:21 PM
Unsung draft hopeful impresses Bulls
Colorado St. C-F Smith sparkles in workouts
By K.C. Johnson
Tribune staff reporter

June 11, 2007, 10:24 PM CDT

Colorado State's Jason Smith might not own the predraft pedigree that Florida's Joakim Noah or China's Yi Jianlian possess.

Even Washington freshman Spencer Hawes, with two fewer seasons of experience than Smith, ranks higher on most draft lists.

But that doesn't mean Smith, the center-power forward who measured 6 feet 11 1/2 inches at the NBA predraft camp in Orlando, hasn't caught the Bulls' attention.

From stellar physical testing in Orlando—he surpassed Noah and Hawes in strength, agility and jumping—to Monday's workout at the Berto Center, Smith has impressed.

"With my work ethic and how skilled I am, I think it's definitely possible for me to work my way up," Smith said. "I'd be really excited to come to the Bulls. They're a great team. They're a great organization."

Smith matched up against Duke power forward Josh McRoberts in a draft workout that also featured Florida small forward Corey Brewer and Florida State small forward Al Thornton.

Smith, 21, has yet to hire an agent and, like Hawes, is paying his own expenses for draft workouts until June 18, the date on which players must stay in the draft or return to school.

That's why the Bulls were excited to interview and test in their own building a player whose stock has quietly risen to equal or surpass that of Noah, Hawes and Yi. The Bulls also watched Smith in Orlando after the predraft camp ended in a workout organized by the Houston Rockets.

"My strengths are, I go hard all the time," Smith said. "I can face up from about 15 feet in. If I have a little bit smaller guy on me, then I can go down low [in the post] on him. Maybe a weakness is fighting through fatigue and staying out of foul trouble."

Smith said he entered Colorado State focused more on academics than basketball. But he surprised himself with his success, which included averaging 16.8 points last season.

"You always dream of being an NBA player," Smith said. "But it doesn't always happen."

Thornton and Brewer, the former an energetic leaper and the latter a strong defender, matched up for their third straight draft workout.

Brewer said he was "a little surprised" by the Bulls' interest. "I figured they'd go big."

The Bulls also released the name of each player who has or is scheduled to work out after previously listing just the high-profile lottery types.

One unannounced workout last week included Maryland shooting guard D.J. Strawberry, Florida point guard Taurean Green, Oregon point guard Aaron Brooks, Cal State-Fullerton point guard Bobby Brown and Virginia point guard Sean Singletary. All except Green are likely second-rounders.

More late first- to second-round types, including California center DeVon Hardin, are due in Tuesday and Wednesday. On Thursday, a strong small-forward contingent that includes DePaul's Wilson Chandler is due at the Berto.
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6/12/2007  1:36 PM
I just think the guy going off that he can start on the knicks is kinda funny!

What do we think of Eddy As a power forward?
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6/12/2007  1:39 PM
Generally, what I've read is that the draft 'experts' considered Randolph Morris a mid-round pick before we signed him - somewhere between 10 and 20. Why is that not a good pick-up? And what team said that they did not what him or wouldn't have taken him without having to give up a draft pick. Isaiah's made some bad moves, but not giving him credit for this is not rational.
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6/12/2007  1:48 PM
Posted by misterearl:

forget Isiah Thomas

I find it curious that absolutely no one (other than nixluva) wants to put their basketball (cough) reputation on the line, "man up" and take a clear stance on which available player they would prefer:

1. the projected mid-first rounder, forward/center Jason Smith

or

2. the late-season signing, forward/center Randolph Morris

one inquiring mind wants to know

[Edited by - misterearl on 06-12-2007 09:31 AM]

Different type of player. One is a true low post old school back to the basket with good fundamentals and a big body--the other a more fluid athletic player with more range and ball skills. I guess its up to a team's indivdual style of play and how the player fits.. i.e would smith do better than morris on the phoenix suns likely--would he do better than Morris on the Knicks probably not.

[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-12-2007 1:51 PM]
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Hold Up, Is dis da same guy projected at the number 15 pick by Nbadraft.net?

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