Why do the Knicks Oragnization make David Lee Available?
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martin
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6/10/2007 10:23 PM
we are shipping Lee? wha?
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Ira
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6/10/2007 10:25 PM
You're listening to rumors and speculation and treating them as a done deal.
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Cookdcokehop
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6/10/2007 10:26 PM
In any blockbuster trade we make Lee will be likely included.
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martin
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6/10/2007 10:29 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop: you gotta give to get. And I think all want ship Channing before Lee obviously. What superstars are we getting? Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BRIGGS
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6/10/2007 10:33 PM
Posted by martin: If you were a team like Phoenix who was dangling Marion or Seattle dangling Lewis---who would you as for? The ONLY choice is Lee the pick and Collins. They dont want the vets other than possibly malik to make the $$$ work--so where is the fair value? I'd like to keep our guys and continue to build but I feel a shortcut a comin. RIP Crushalot😞
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nixluva
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6/10/2007 10:37 PM
The idea isn't to stockpile young talent. The idea is the WIN a TITLE! So if you give up some youth in order to get a legit star player that you feel will get you closer to a title that's the whole point. No one really WANTS to give up Lee, but he's a valuable chip and we'd be replacing him with someone who is actually BETTER than he is right now. Is there a chance he may continue to develop to a higher level, yes, but you take the player that actually IS ON that higher level now over just potential.
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Ira
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6/10/2007 10:42 PM
I disagree. Lee is already a very good player. In two years, it's likely he'll be a much better player. In two years Marion will be on his way down. Do you think we're going to win a title in the next two years with Shawn Marion instead of David Lee?
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BRIGGS
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6/10/2007 10:49 PM
Posted by Ira: Something will happen to wreck the team. Anyway, the Atlanta Hawks could have given a better account of themselves than the Cavs. The east did sck so badly this year--actually it may have hit it's lowpoint--although Greg oden is also going West. The only thing good about this finals is that it could be over quickly. RIP Crushalot😞
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Cookdcokehop
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6/10/2007 11:05 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Garnett on the Knicks are not winning a Championship, and even tho I would love him on the knicks neither is Jermaine O'neal. We need to continue develop our young bucks till they become basketball scholars with a P.H.D. in all necessary basketball skills. I don't need any scholars that cannot or will not perform well in the near future. I need some that can do what they got to do and do it for many years to come and give me a reason to watch this team without ****ing cardiac arrest every game in the near future.
"The idea isn't to stockpile young talent. The idea is the WIN a TITLE!". Well cot damn, I think Chicago and Orlando are ****ing up! |
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rain
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6/10/2007 11:42 PM
What are the rumored deals including Lee? His upside, intagibles, and team orientation are very valuable.. it would take alot to include him in any deal. Rashard makes no sense. His knee is balky and his health long term is a serious minus.. plus, he's gonna get a big deal.
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Cookdcokehop
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6/11/2007 1:39 AM
Thats why I am asking this question if we think so highly of Lee, then why every deal I hear has his name in it?
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Bonn1997
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6/11/2007 8:06 AM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:He's too versatile for Isiah and Dolan's liking. |
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Solace
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6/11/2007 8:26 AM
Posted by Cookdcokehop: He's playing well, so if we're not trading Curry, he's our only other option to get a decent piece in return. Lee is not going to be a top flight star in this league, as good as he's been, so if you can get one, it's not necessarily a bad move. Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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TheGame
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6/11/2007 8:29 AM
I don't think that the Knicks are going to trade Lee, unless it is for O' Neal and I think the dislike between IT and Bird is so great that they will not be able to get a deal done. Thus, I think Lee will be here next year. I would really like the Knicks to make a smaller trade of Frye or Nate or both to get Lewis, Diaw, or an extra draft pick. As others have stated, this team is 3 years away from have any real chance of contending for a title and that is assuming Curry, Lee, Balkman, Collins, and Lee continue to substantially improve each year. Thus, we really don't need a Garnett or a O'Neal.
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nixluva
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6/11/2007 8:39 AM
From the statements attributed to Isiah it seems like he feels the team is closer to being a contender than 3 years away. It sounds like he thinks the team is maybe a 1 or 2 years away at most, if he can add the right player. That being the case I just get the feeling that Lee is the one guy that will be sacrificed, due to his value right now. I LOVE Lee's game, but I realize that he is the most likely young talent to be used to get another star player. My hope is that Isiah can't get a deal done and we move to try and make a smaller deal for another pick in this draft. Then i'd try to take Sean Williams and Morris Almond. Those 2 guys would set this team up for long term success IMO.
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arkrud
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6/11/2007 8:41 AM
If you want to know IT opinion for the topick please read nixluva post above...
 The biggest problem with Lee on the Knick is reflection You look at his game and you see right away how bad are all players we have for big $$$ His personality is reflecting the mental deficiences of Steph, Steve, Eddy-alike and at the end... very clear highlights what IT did as GM - messy crap with Lee as a side-win of his gambling moves. If IT will stay (and he will) - Lee we go.  . And they will find the "right" deal to make it work[Edited by - arkrud on 06-11-2007 08:42 AM] "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Bonn1997
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6/11/2007 8:41 AM
Posted by Solace:Posted by Cookdcokehop: What kind of #s do you think Lee would have put up if he had played 38 mpg? |
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arkrud
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6/11/2007 8:47 AM
Actually talking about JO - the trade including JO and Lee is perfect one to put things in plase.
Apples to Apples and Oranges to Oranges JO to IT and Lee to Bird. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Cookdcokehop
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6/11/2007 9:17 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:Posted by Solace:Posted by Cookdcokehop: There was a point last season where David Lee was consisently dropping 15pts 15rebs and 3 assist. I don't see a player like that as tradeable. |
Why do the Knicks Oragnization make David Lee Available?