Yo,

I want to start this post by saying I love you. And when I say you, I mean you and not "you all" as if this was some type of post directed at the hundreds of people comprising the entire UK community. Because that's not what this is -- I'm sending this message directly to you. I'm just keeping it light and casual by just referring to you as "you" and not by your name. Anyway, you might be asking, "Why did you start a thread just to say you love me?" And I'd say, "Because that's how much I love you." And then you might say, "Aww. Thanks!! That's awesome. Hey aren't you in an awesome band that I totally love and would totally want to vote for if given an opportunity to vote in some type of concert voting contest of the voting variety?" And I'd say, "What a crazy coincidence!! We are in such a contest, friend. I just never thought you'd wanna go through the mere 20 second process of voting everyday until we win. But now that you've so graciously volunteered. Here are some instructions..."

First, you go to this URL: http://lollapalooza.mp3.com/feature/2007lollapalooza/?band=DO-YOU-SEE-THE-DARK

Second, you vote for Do You See the Dark. (Don't forget to confirm your vote.)

Third, you vote again the next day. And over and over and over...

So yeah -- I hope you are doing well. And thanks again for expressing your interest in voting for my band. Tell everyone I said "what's up"!! I'll see you at the get-together soon!!!!

Yo -- I've already noticed a spike in voting. So thanks to everyone who has voted already. And while I was joking around in the post above, I wanted to seriously say "thank you" to the whole UK community for all the support.

If you have the time please vote as often as you can. You can submit one vote per day per email address. So if you're like me and you have a couple of email addresses -- please vote from each one if you have the time.

If we can drive my band into the top 50 of voting that would be awesome. And as a token of appreciation, I'll make a special new banner for UK -- so start putting in votes and start making banner suggestions...

Thanks again everyone!

I voted evil and got my brother and fiance to do the same...ROCK OUT BROTHER

Ahhhhh so this is a thread created by you in essence to promote your band. The more exposure your band gets, the greater the chance you have to become a bigger success than you already are. Which means you'll make more money. Tell us the real reason why this thread was created, I appear to be interested I won't be voting though.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Ahhhhh so this is a thread created by you in essence to promote your band. The more exposure your band gets, the greater the chance you have to become a bigger success than you already are. Which means you'll make more money. Tell us the real reason why this thread was created, I appear to be interested I won't be voting though.

Man, I had no problem with your desire to make money selling replica kicks, dude. Believe me. It was more about the fact that I think you should have just kept it as clear as possible to everyone that they were looking at replica kicks. If you don't think I was interested -- then I don't know what to say. I thought you might have some adidas but you didn't. I'm not interested in debating this, but you should know I have no beef with your business venture -- I just think it's best to keep your consumers informed. I know you tried. I just didn't think you tried hard enough. We disagree. No big deal. Nothing personal.

Posted by eViL:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Ahhhhh so this is a thread created by you in essence to promote your band. The more exposure your band gets, the greater the chance you have to become a bigger success than you already are. Which means you'll make more money. Tell us the real reason why this thread was created, I appear to be interested I won't be voting though.

Man, I had no problem with your desire to make money selling replica kicks, dude. Believe me. It was more about the fact that I think you should have just kept it as clear as possible to everyone that they were looking at replica kicks. If you don't think I was interested -- then I don't know what to say. I thought you might have some adidas but you didn't. I'm not interested in debating this, but you should know I have no beef with your business venture -- I just think it's best to keep your consumers informed. I know you tried. I just didn't think you tried hard enough. We disagree. No big deal. Nothing personal.

What you did was low budget no matter what you say. If you had any interest or concerns the respectful thing would have been to drop me your email and you could have voiced your thoughts to me via email. You could have made your suggestions there. Although I made myself pretty clear my product wasn't 100% authentic. I should have sent it past your desk first though, my apologies. I was invited by another poster on this board to post my pics as on the other board. But what happens is immature people hijack the thread(like you did, like I am now intentionally) with nothing of substance to offer, then such threads get locked. This is your first mentioning interest in Adidas sneakers and even if I did have any, the way you came at me was busch league, we wouldn't have talked long at all. Maybe my goal is to become an authorized sporting goods/apparel retailer, just like your aspiration is to become a well renown rock group, you gotta start somewhere and make the most of opportunities if they come your way solicited or unsolicited. I've been doing my gig for quite some time and could have asked any of the Mods a long time ago to post my merchandise here but I didn't. I know what these forums are intended for and definitely understand why threads like that get locked up but at the same time, when discernment is used, one could hope for leniency. You came into the thread like a loud clashing cymbal, so yes I'm still torqued at you and will be for a little while longer.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-11-2007 9:31 PM]

True, your thread was locked for 1 reason. I didn't want this site associated with someone selling something that was not authentic.

Posted by Andrew:

True, your thread was locked for 1 reason. I didn't want this site associated with someone selling something that was not authentic.

So if someone wants to post a REPLICA David Lee jersey on here for sale that's ok?

Like I said I made myself clear in the other thread yet still a few posters were interested, so where was the harm Andrew? Just don't charge people an authentic price, which I was far from it, no one knows that now of course. It's no different than going to a grocery store and buying Kroger Brand Green Beans instead of Delmonte.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-12-2007 12:04 AM]

Posted by Andrew:

Your threads were far from clear on what was going on. Martin asked several times for you post the link to the RealGM forum. You did not respond. You failed to answer direct questions in the thread about your product. If you would like to discuss further feel free to email us.

What's the e-mail address? Is it this one? info@ultimateknicks.com!


If so I'll be sending a message there shortly.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-11-2007 10:07 PM]

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-12-2007 12:04 AM]

For those who have been paying attention:

Saturday: 330th place
Sunday: 289th place
Monday: 164th place
Tuesday (so far): 151st place

A million thanks again to everyone that is chipping in a few minutes a day to support us. A lot of bands got a two week head-start on us voting-wise. But we're fighting back with the pure force of all your votes. Please, if you have the time -- keep voting.

Posted by VDesai:

Actually TrueBlue, it wasn't clear at all on that thread that you were selling fakes. You only made mention on some other related thread hidden in like 15 posts that the things weren't real. But the thread that actually had pictures and the one where you actually offered the shoes- you didn't say anything. I saw that thread first and didn't realize they were fakes till eVil's post. That was a public service on his part.

I'm not saying you were being intentionally dishonest, but that was sort of a glaring omission and something that beared repeating, especially on a thread where you were making an offer to sell. It's actually (literally" part of the rules of doing fair business.

I will say I could have said something again in the my Gallery Thread. The other thread had been alive for more than half the day before I created a seperate thread for my gallery. It had 192 views with me giving an assessment of my Sneakers so I thought hey most everyone already interested saw that thread. I relinked that thread in my gallery not 15 post into it more like 5-6 post in. Once again I honestly couldn't confirm either way because I'm not an authorized dealer nor in front of product when purchasing. My 25th Aniv White Lows may be legit of all the shoes I had but I honestly believe I didn't have authentics and so much has already said so. He could have dropped me a line in an email and then made strong suggestion to make myself clear on authenticity, that's all I'm saying


You, Martin, Andrew, eVil disagree.........It's all Good!