Kobe Bryant for Vlade Divac?
Shaq for Odom and crap?

Others?

KVH and Doleac for Thomas and Nazr.

Clyde to clevland for who?

Ewing and Dudley for Glen Rice, Luc Longley, Travis Knight, Vladimir Stepania, Lazaro Borrell and Vernon Maxwell.


Not from a talent standpoint, but the Rice and Knight contract's hamstrung the Knicks. Rice of course turned into Shanderson and Eisley. Shanderson had to be bought out- Eisley was one of the bad contracts consolidated into Marbury.

Posted by anklebraker:

KVH and Doleac for Thomas and Nazr.

Agreed.

Also, 7 players for Marbury and Penny was pretty bad and has hurt the franchise for years, while it gave Phoenix the cap room to get Steve Nash and become one of the best teams in the league. Has been disasterous for this franchise. Just about every other Isiah Thomas trade also qualifies.

Camby, Nene and Mark Jackson for McDyess, Lampe and Frank Williams wound up being pretty bad also, but only because of the injuries.

The other ones mentioned in this thread also apply.

[Edited by - Solace on Jun 09 2007 6:10 PM]

[Edited by - Solace on Jun 09 2007 6:46 PM]

KVH & Doleac for Tim Thomas & Narz as one of the worst trades in the last 20yrs???

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Dallas traded Robert Traylor to Milwaukee for Dirk Nowitzki and Pat Garrity.

Dallas traded Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells and Pat Garrity and a 1999 first-round draft selection to Phoenix for Steve Nash.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Dallas traded Martin Muursepp, Bubba Wells and Pat Garrity and a 1999 first-round draft selection to Phoenix for Steve Nash.

Um... wasn't that first round draft selection a player named SHAWN MARION? How was that a bad trade?

Marbury for Ray Allen

Posted by kam77:

KVH for Nazr was not even a bad trade let alone a terrible one. Get a grip.

If that was all there was to the trade, you might be right. We also got Terrible Tim, who was a completely negative impact to the team, and set us back. Additionally, we gave up Michael Doleac, who was playing VERY well, and was really fitting well into the system.

Posted by Bonn1997:

I think that was a neutral or slightly negative trade. Really, Nazr is the only one of the four players who had any good NBA seasons after the trade (and he had only one good season).

So you think bringing in a headcase like Tim Thomas wasn't a huge setback? The team clearly got considerably worse and there was a massive aura of negativity after the trade, so how can it be neutral?

Posted by Bonn1997:

TT was a wuss but he wasn't a cancer. A cancer is someone who negatively impacts other players on the team. I know you like Van Horn a lot but he didn't play any better than TT post-trade either. I think Nazr was the best of the four players involved in the trade.

Um, are you serious? Just his mere presence on a team lowers that team's value. Wow, he played well in the playoffs, in a contract year, let's get a grip. He's once again a cancer and destroyed the Clippers team this year. His "addition" turned them from a game away from the WCF to a team that doesn't make the playoffs. He had a similar impact on the Knicks. He plays like a lazy dog most nights and that DOES impact his teammates. Negatively. He's also a moron. One of the Nets fans I occasionally talk to, went to college with him and said he's one of the dumbest guys he's ever met. We would've been better with Jessica Alba playing SF.

Also, this has nothing to do with Van Horn. Nazr is fine and I'm not knocking Nazr. Frankly, part of me might prefer him over Curry. Nazr certainly wasn't the best player in that trade, but that's an old argument and one I don't care about. Let's just move past that.

[Edited by - Solace on Jun 10 2007 12:03 AM]