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BRIGGS
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6/6/2007  10:26 AM
11/20 DePaul W 87-81 32 7 13 6 9 0 0 20 2 7 9 2 1 0 1 3
11/22 @Memphis L 80-63 35 6 11 6 8 0 0 18 2 6 8 0 2 0 0 1
12/2 @UNC L 75-63 31 11 12 1 3 0 0 23 2 5 7 0 3 0 3 3
12/5 UT-Chatt W 79-63 31 7 10 3 8 0 0 17 1 6 7 1 3 0 4 2
12/9 Indiana W 59-54 37 6 12 4 5 0 0 16 3 7 10 1 2 0 4 2
12/19 Santa Clara W 74-6033 10 18 3 6 0 0 23 4 9 13 2 3 2 2 1
12/30 E Kentucky W 78-65 31 9 12 7 10 0 0 25 4 6 10 2 1 0 3 1
1/3 Houston W 77-70 34 5 10 10 12 0 0 20 2 8 10 3 3 0 4 0
1/6 @Ole Miss W 68-58 32 6 11 2 5 0 0 14 1 9 10 1 1 3 0 1
1/20 Vanderbilt L 72-67 31 4 8 3 4 0 0 11 3 4 7 3 3 1 2 2
2/17 @Alabama L 72-61 30 6 13 3 5 0 0 15 3 4 7 3 8 1 4 1
2/20 LSU W 70-63 34 6 9 8 10 0 0 20 3 7 10 2 3 1 2 2
3/9 @Miss St L 84-82 37 8 15 13 18 0 0 29 10 5 15 2 3 2 3 4
3/16 Villanova W 67-58 30 5 7 9 15 0 0 19 2 9 11 1 3 1 3 4
3/18 @Kansas L 88-76 31 4 8 14 16 0 0 22 2 6 8 0 3 1 2 4

Team Record 10-5
Minutes 32.7
points 18.1
rebounds 10.2
blocks 2.6
assists 1.6
steals 0.8
fg% 59%



[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-06-2007 10:29 AM]
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6/6/2007  10:30 AM
Nifty. Those are Alonzo Mourning numbers.
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6/6/2007  10:31 AM
college stats don't always amount to much... Kurt Thomas was a beast in college.
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6/6/2007  10:33 AM
What were Mike Sweetney's numbers with at least 30 min in his final year?
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6/6/2007  10:37 AM
Thanks Briggs. I think we get caught up in the euphoria of who might be on our team and haven't really taken a look at what we just received, and for free!

Those are some very very good numbers. I was surprised he rebounded and blocked so well.
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6/6/2007  10:42 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

What were Mike Sweetney's numbers with at least 30 min in his final year?

Forget about the 30 mins- Mike Sweetney average 23-10-3 as a junior.
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6/6/2007  10:56 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by Bonn1997:

What were Mike Sweetney's numbers with at least 30 min in his final year?

Forget about the 30 mins- Mike Sweetney average 23-10-3 as a junior.

my point exactly... we can't get caught up in stats that guys put up in college too much, because a lot of times they don't translate to the NBA... guys are so much bigger, faster & stronger in the NBA, that tools that get you numbers at the college level like just having size or athleticism don't carry you anymore. (not saying that's all Morris has, just in general)
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6/6/2007  10:57 AM
Posted by TMS:

college stats don't always amount to much... Kurt Thomas was a beast in college.

I think there is a difference in the programs that Kurt Vs Randolph played on.

But the Sweetney comparison is fine, up to the point that Randolph doesn't appear to be fat.
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6/6/2007  11:01 AM
as jvg said, the only real quality that translate from college to the pros is rebounding.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-06-2007 11:03 AM]
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6/6/2007  11:03 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

college stats don't always amount to much... Kurt Thomas was a beast in college.

I think there is a difference in the programs that Kurt Vs Randolph played on.

But the Sweetney comparison is fine, up to the point that Randolph doesn't appear to be fat.

LOL. How soon do people forget. Mike Sweetney was putting up very good numbers with the Knicks as a starter. His issue was his weight and stamina issues. He would ball for 24 minutes and run out of gas. That's why he could give you a stat line like 18 points and 10 rebounds in one half and 0 points and 1 rebound the second.
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6/6/2007  11:05 AM
So good he wasn't even drafted in the 2nd rd last year on potential when it would have cost teams nothing. Then as a free agent, off of that "monster" season, he nets all of half the LLE from the highest bidder.

Like every other decision maker in the NBA, I don't expect much from him.
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6/6/2007  11:05 AM
Actually yes, Sweetney was a great RPM guy.
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6/6/2007  11:11 AM
how are we supposed to even be able to read those stats?
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6/6/2007  11:16 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

college stats don't always amount to much... Kurt Thomas was a beast in college.

I think there is a difference in the programs that Kurt Vs Randolph played on.

But the Sweetney comparison is fine, up to the point that Randolph doesn't appear to be fat.

LOL. How soon do people forget. Mike Sweetney was putting up very good numbers with the Knicks as a starter. His issue was his weight and stamina issues. He would ball for 24 minutes and run out of gas. That's why he could give you a stat line like 18 points and 10 rebounds in one half and 0 points and 1 rebound the second.

that's what you call inconsistency... in other words, we can't fall in love with #'s these kids put up in college because they don't always translate to the NBA level... Frank Williams was putting up good games too in college & in some games as a starter for the Knicks, but he tailed off too.
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6/6/2007  11:19 AM
does anyone actually know anything about him tho like actually watched him play what kind of player is he honestly from the few minutes i saw he reminds me of Mo Taylor
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6/6/2007  11:24 AM
In all seriousness I think Sweetney given the touches in the post would really put up similiar number to eddy curry if he was on the court for 34 minutes and allowed to get in shape during games like curry was. He would be a real asset to a team like NJ or Was.....

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April
10pts 6rbs 23mins 7fga

March
8pts 6rbs 20min 7fga

Feb
10.2pts 6.6rbs 22min 6.6fga

I would imagine he would be giving you 15pts 9rbs given the offensive freedom eddy is allowed.....
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6/6/2007  11:24 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

college stats don't always amount to much... Kurt Thomas was a beast in college.

I think there is a difference in the programs that Kurt Vs Randolph played on.

But the Sweetney comparison is fine, up to the point that Randolph doesn't appear to be fat.

LOL. How soon do people forget. Mike Sweetney was putting up very good numbers with the Knicks as a starter. His issue was his weight and stamina issues. He would ball for 24 minutes and run out of gas. That's why he could give you a stat line like 18 points and 10 rebounds in one half and 0 points and 1 rebound the second.

that's what you call inconsistency... in other words, we can't fall in love with #'s these kids put up in college because they don't always translate to the NBA level... Frank Williams was putting up good games too in college & in some games as a starter for the Knicks, but he tailed off too.

With both Frank and Sweetney, the issues were probably most related to conditioning. Both players did well when they could stay on the court and in shape and failed miserably when they didn't. I still feel that if circumstances had gone a little differently, and both of those players had stayed in shape, they'd both be starters somewhere, but that's just my view.
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6/6/2007  11:24 AM
paxson and skiles both say sweets works real hard. apparently, the problem is genetic with him.
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6/6/2007  11:29 AM
Posted by Elite:

does anyone actually know anything about him tho like actually watched him play what kind of player is he honestly from the few minutes i saw he reminds me of Mo Taylor

The guy reminds me of a young Magloire. Not flashy but very fundamental in his approach. I would surely take him over some of the big stiffs I see listed in this year's mock drafts. That's for sure.
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6/6/2007  11:32 AM
Posted by TMS:

college stats don't always amount to much... Kurt Thomas was a beast in college.

I think Bonns arguement is a little more valid b/c Sweetney has been a bust so far. Kurt Thomas turned out to be a good player and probably would have been better had it not been for his injuries super early in his career.

Regardless of what the numbers are, we need to give Morris a shot.
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