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bobs3304
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5/31/2007  5:32 AM
  • 37.7 MINS
  • 44.0 FG%
  • 74.0 FT%
  • 35.8 3PT %
  • 6.5 REB
  • 3.4 ASS
  • 2.1 STL
  • 18.8 PTS
  • 2007-08 Salary: $7.8 MIL



  • 37.3 MINS
  • 40.0 FG%
  • 83.8 FT%
  • 32.0 3PT %
  • 3.2 REB
  • 4.4 ASS
  • 1.0 STL
    • [*]17.6 PTS[*]2007-08 Salary: $7.9 MIL








[Edited by - bobs3304 on 05-31-2007 05:40 AM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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arkrud
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5/31/2007  8:16 AM
No brainer:
Player A - better defense with more STL and rebounds
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5/31/2007  8:21 AM
Player A, more points, rebounds, steals, and higher shooting percentage.
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5/31/2007  8:22 AM
Player B because Crawford can take over games and with the right coaching, he can be a successful combo guard on a playoff team.
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Silverfuel
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5/31/2007  8:25 AM
But if you think stats are everything or if you think stats are the only way to compare players, you would probably make a lot of incorrect choices.
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5/31/2007  8:26 AM
Oh is B Crawford? Then I'll have to say A as Jamal has proven uncoachable. Who's A anyway?
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5/31/2007  8:29 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Oh is B Crawford? Then I'll have to say A as Jamal has proven uncoachable. Who's A anyway?
So you consider yourself an authority on deciding players that are "proven uncoachable" or not. Or is this just your opinion?
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5/31/2007  8:52 AM
i think player A is ron artest?
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5/31/2007  9:12 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Oh is B Crawford? Then I'll have to say A as Jamal has proven uncoachable. Who's A anyway?
So you consider yourself an authority on deciding players that are "proven uncoachable" or not. Or is this just your opinion?

We all post our opinions here
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5/31/2007  9:18 AM
Posted by TheGame:

Player A, more points, rebounds, steals, and higher shooting percentage.

I'll second that- slightly lower assists vs. b, but I assume this isn't a pg we're talking about.
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5/31/2007  9:29 AM
Player B gets one more assist and a slightly higher FT%, whereas player A is better in all other aspects of the game. It's not even close.
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5/31/2007  9:30 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Player B gets one more assist and a slightly higher FT%, whereas player A is better in all other aspects of the game. It's not even close.
You can look at their PERs, which is the best overall statistical evaluation of players. Jamal is at 15.8 and Ron is at 20.3. That's a gigantic difference.
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5/31/2007  9:32 AM
And player b never does anything on defense gives up a ton of easy points, and creates transition baskets with his poor shooting and selfish behavior
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5/31/2007  10:10 AM
No contest talent-wise. My only question of Artest has been attitude. Like I've said in the past, I think Artest could succeed in NY if you surround him with positive attitudes and no other toxic personalities on the team. He needs a positive environment so there's accountability and his misbehavior isn't the norm.
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5/31/2007  10:25 AM
Posted by Solace:

No contest talent-wise. My only question of Artest has been attitude. Like I've said in the past, I think Artest could succeed in NY if you surround him with positive attitudes and no other toxic personalities on the team. He needs a positive environment so there's accountability and his misbehavior isn't the norm.

No doubt, Solace. For whatever reason, Ron was on his best behavior under Thomas. According to Isiah it was stressful to deal with Artest but Ron seem to have benefited. Like him or not, Thomas does seem to have a calming effect on his players. I always blamed Thomas for not reaching out to Artest to talk to him after he fired from the Pacers. Unfortunately, Artest needs that in his life.
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5/31/2007  10:26 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by Solace:

No contest talent-wise. My only question of Artest has been attitude. Like I've said in the past, I think Artest could succeed in NY if you surround him with positive attitudes and no other toxic personalities on the team. He needs a positive environment so there's accountability and his misbehavior isn't the norm.

No doubt, Solace. For whatever reason, Ron was on his best behavior under Thomas. According to Isiah it was stressful to deal with Artest but Ron seem to have benefited. Like him or not, Thomas does seem to have a calming effect on his players. I always blamed Thomas for not reaching out to Artest to talk to him after he fired from the Pacers. Unfortunately, Artest needs that in his life.

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5/31/2007  10:28 AM
who plays defense?
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bobs3304
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5/31/2007  5:29 PM
Yes, Player A is Arty, B Crawford.


Offensively, they're pretty much identical.

Defensively we all know Artest is far, far ahead of Crawford, but let's keep in mind also his antics, and the fact that Curry loves Crawford...

Then again......Artest's contract is shorter.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/31/2007  5:41 PM
the 2.1 steals is what really does it
bobs3304
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5/31/2007  6:09 PM
Posted by Elite:

the 2.1 steals is what really does it

larry hughes had a season with 2.9 stls.

does that make him better?
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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