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Curry vs Duncan on offense
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ramtour420
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5/17/2007  12:11 AM
Just a quick comparison,we all know exactly what Curry's offense is like, i always thought of Duncan as a complete player and on every aspect other than offense he sure is a monster. But this series vs the Suns it seems like his only thing on offense is the bank shot(and some athletic David Lee- like points). Him and Curry shoot about the same % free throws and Duncan sure can pass it like the best of them, but 1 on 1 offense he just seems not that good. Maybe i am missing something, but its kinda sad- he isn't really a post player, he likes it on the high post, he can't shoot the hook shot but he is smart enough and focused enough to where i just never really noticed that about him. Please prove me wrong.
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5/17/2007  12:31 AM
He's 22/12/2.5 for his career with a .509 FG%. He's great on defense, a very good passer, and very clutch. Maybe he's not as athletic as you may have imagined but what more do you want from the guy?
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5/17/2007  12:37 AM
oh yeah, he is is still amazing, but he dominates not on offense. I mean he just kinda stands there when the double comes, tries to make a little room and make some move maybe but not really and they still call a foul on the suns. Granted he is facing the bucket , not backing in towards it just kinda moving his elbows. . .
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5/17/2007  8:54 AM
bobo?
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5/17/2007  9:13 AM
Duncan has very solid handle and is quick enough to get to where he wants on most nights. He has that high bank shot instead of a hook and it's just as effective. He can avoid a lot of contact and not draw offensive fouls. He can play physical when he needs to and his timing on help D is very good. He's not a D. Howard type, so he looks kind of lame at times, but that's an illusion. The "Big Fundamental" tag is so appropriate, cuz that's basically all he does. You could put him on one of those old 1960's Celtic teams and he'd fit right in. Basically he's corny. Every once in a while he'll surprise you with a move that has some flair. You just have to appreciate that he's a VERY smart player and controls the game from his position. If Curry could do the same thing we'd be a great team. i can only DREAM that Curry could reach that level of BB IQ.

Curry is more of a Bull in a China shop. He has guys bouncing off him and he plows thru most defenders, sometimes in a negative way. What is so amazing about Curry is his QUICKNESS and his lite feet and agility. It's CRAZY how he can move for such a massive guy. Very few players that move as forcefully as him have ever had such a degree of touch on his shots. I think he's going to be a very effective player for this team for years to come, but he must work hard to get to the next level. I could see Curry getting to 24/9/2 and maybe 1.5 blocks.
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5/17/2007  10:43 AM
One of the many differences between the two when they work on the low post is that Duncan knows what to do and does it *quickly*. He doesn't just hold onto the ball for several seconds trying to figure things out like Curry often does.
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5/17/2007  10:52 AM
curry is the better athlete I think, better leaper, maybe even quicker on his feet, but duncan does a lot of things correct. He keeps the ball high, on receiving the pass and on rebounds, he plays the angles on offense and he makes good decisions. curry is a very good offensive player, he has a great touch, moves well, and is extrememly strong, but he just does not master the little things that duncan does, that makes him so great, we hope eddy can get there, but the difference between the two even on offense is very noticeable!
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5/17/2007  11:02 AM
lol

he can shoot right over the Suns with that bank time in and out. he has no need to delve deep and waste energy to prove posts like this wrong.

and no Curry is not the better athlete. he may be a better acrobat. but Curry fails by a mile in footwork and lightyears behind in conditioning.

Being able to do more dunks is only a part of it. Its the athleticism of Tim that makes the Spurs D so good since he is quick enough to cut off guard penetration and still recover down low possession after freaking possession.

however Curry is good enough not to let the guards land on the photographers after they score
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5/17/2007  11:09 AM
Posted by McK1:

lol

he can shoot right over the Suns with that bank time in and out. he has no need to delve deep and waste energy to prove posts like this wrong.

and no Curry is not the better athlete. he may be a better acrobat. but Curry fails by a mile in footwork and lightyears behind in conditioning.

Being able to do more dunks is only a part of it. Its the athleticism of Tim that makes the Spurs D so good since he is quick enough to cut off guard penetration and still recover down low possession after freaking possession.

however Curry is good enough not to let the guards land on the photographers after they score

curry's conditioning has gotten much better, I would not say he is miles behind, but behind nevertheless, but what does that have to do with being a lesser athlete? what does footwork have to do with being a lesser athlete? Heck Mchale had great footwork, was he a better athlete than karl malone?
he can shoot right over the Suns with that bank time in and out. he has no need to delve deep and waste energy to prove posts like this wrong.

???????? what are you talking about....
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5/17/2007  11:17 AM
Posted by tkf:


he can shoot right over the Suns with that bank time in and out. he has no need to delve deep and waste energy to prove posts like this wrong.

???????? what are you talking about....

it was a response to the first post of this thread about Duncan not having much post offense.

And Malone was able to run the floor end to end like a horse so no McHale having better footwork on the post doesn't make him a better athlete.

Can Curry run end to end like Duncan can and does?

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5/17/2007  11:22 AM
Duncan reciees the ball with his back to the basket but then faces it. This allows him to read the defense and facilitate the offense. Curry gets tunnel vision as he worries about not backing people over. He seems not to know what's happening beyond two feet to his rear.
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5/17/2007  11:30 AM
you guys kill me even mentioning curry in the same sentence as duncan.

duncan is a god. i just moved him onto my 3rd team all-time, bouncing rick barry.

here are a few reminders of the 'unathletic" tim duncan:


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5/17/2007  11:40 AM
Posted by Marv:

you guys kill me even mentioning curry in the same sentence as duncan.

duncan is a god. i just moved him onto my 3rd team all-time, bouncing rick barry.

here are a few reminders of the 'unathletic" tim duncan:




Maybe if Tim would just add a shimmy or a helicopter to his repertoire he'd gain some credibility.
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5/17/2007  11:49 AM
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bobo?

So you admit to creating this thread. Busted.
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5/17/2007  11:51 AM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Maybe if Tim would just add a shimmy or a helicopter to his repertoire he'd gain some credibility.

Well, the last time he attempted to show some form of an emotion or a personality, he got thrown out of the game.

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5/17/2007  12:10 PM
I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......
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5/17/2007  12:28 PM
Duncan can post with the best of them. He's not as physically overwhelming as Shaq or even Curry but if you don't think he has a post game I don't know where you've been the past 10 years. I think various leg injuries have slowed him down relative to how he used to be, but he can still do it. Also, for this series, don't underestimate the job Kurt Thomas is doing on him. Kurt's making it very tough for Duncan and yet they still had to switch to double teams last night after Duncan used KT a few consecutive times down the court.
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5/17/2007  12:42 PM
Posted by tkf:

I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".
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5/17/2007  1:16 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by tkf:

I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..
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5/17/2007  2:09 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by tkf:

I think the poster asked a legit question, not to take anything away from duncan. why all of a sudden this has become a chippy, please don't mention curry in the same breath as duncan type of thread? geez.......


The thread starter not only chose to compare Duncan to Curry, but also described his offense as "not that good" and "sad".


I would not have a problem comparing Curry's post game to Duncan, curry did lead the NBA in points in the paint, mostly off of post ups, so that is a legit point, but the "not that good" and "sad" is a bit much. Duncan is one of the best post players in our era, we can all hope that curry even comes close, but I don't understand the chippy remarks just because curry's name was mentioned.... I would hope the posters intentions are not to say curry's post game is better, but at least comparable to such a great player in that one area, and hopefully one day on that level. I hope that is the intention here..

But it's kinda like watching the Lakers and saying "so I'm watching Kobe and I just noticed his jump shot isn't as pure as Allan Houstons'; he's not that good and it's kinda sad". Why take a complete, top 3 NBA player, and compare him to one our one dimensional guys who's not even top 3 at his position? It's an awkward comparison that begs for chippy replies. It's like noticing Bird was not as good a shot blocker as Balkman. Who cares!
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