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The real reason why Curry averages 7 rebs a game
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NYKresurrection
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5/2/2007  7:48 AM
If all of you guys would think about it for a moment, Curry averages 7 rebounds because he is double and triple teamed in the post, so if you already have a guy behind you, one infront of you and one flashing on eihter side of you, its not that easy to get to the rim for rebounds without going over the back !!!!!

Tyson Chandler averages 12 rebounds per game because nobody is guarding him in the post so he can get to the rim at will !!!

I know your probably thinking, the one exception is Duncan, but he is surrounded by shooters so they are not true double teams. Who do you leave ? Parker, Manu, Bowen, Barry, Findog ???

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5/2/2007  8:04 AM
he only averaged 4.5 defensive reboudns pre game dude, thats him mano a mano with whoever he's guarding, in better position given that he's closer to the basket.

watch some games man, big ed doesn't jump, doesn't box out, he's just not a good rebounder. fact.
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5/2/2007  8:54 AM
Posted by NYKresurrection:

If all of you guys would think about it for a moment, Curry averages 7 rebounds because he is double and triple teamed in the post, so if you already have a guy behind you, one infront of you and one flashing on eihter side of you, its not that easy to get to the rim for rebounds without going over the back !!!!!

Tyson Chandler averages 12 rebounds per game because nobody is guarding him in the post so he can get to the rim at will !!!

I know your probably thinking, the one exception is Duncan, but he is surrounded by shooters so they are not true double teams. Who do you leave ? Parker, Manu, Bowen, Barry, Findog ???

Who's double teaming Eddy on the defensive end?
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5/2/2007  9:07 AM
he has a long track record of poor rebounding- but he's really only been double teamed this year.

But as an excuse, I'll give it an 'A' for effort!
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5/2/2007  9:18 AM
Ok this takes the cake for dumbest comment of the year......

When he had lee and richardson, crawford starting he was not getting pushed out of the paint. Maybe its because he is fat and lazy and doesn't jump
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5/2/2007  10:07 AM
I wonder if Wilt Chamberlain got double and triple teamed in his career.
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5/2/2007  10:12 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

I wonder if Wilt Chamberlain got double and triple teamed in his career.

Double and triple teams are a Knicks-only curse. Much like injuries.
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5/2/2007  10:13 AM
Nobody boxes out anymore except balkman and lee...that's just league wide.

Currys main problem aside from being lazy is he has terrible timing on the rebound. Oakley had short arms and he was slow and no jumping ability. He could barely dunk one handed and he was 6'9". Thing is oakley fought. He boxed out and used his body to sheild off defenders. He also understood angles and could read how the ball was coming off the rim.

Curry has a lot to learn but curry has proven he is a fast learner. Aguirre already put it out there that he will be teaching curry better rebounding and defensive techniques this summer. That to me is good to hear cuz I trust aguirres ability to teach.
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5/2/2007  10:19 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Nobody boxes out anymore except balkman and lee...that's just league wide.

Currys main problem aside from being lazy is he has terrible timing on the rebound. Oakley had short arms and he was slow and no jumping ability. He could barely dunk one handed and he was 6'9". Thing is oakley fought. He boxed out and used his body to sheild off defenders. He also understood angles and could read how the ball was coming off the rim.

Curry has a lot to learn but curry has proven he is a fast learner. Aguirre already put it out there that he will be teaching curry better rebounding and defensive techniques this summer. That to me is good to hear cuz I trust aguirres ability to teach.


What I would add is that Curry often suffers from a lack of concentration. When you look at his game logs, you see a LOT of up and down performances. It's the games when he only gets 3-4 rebs that really hurt his avg. He has to get to the point where he stops doing that. If Curry truly wants to be as good as he says, then he should be successful in improving his rebounding. We all can see that he's not a natural rebounder, but a lot of that is just effort and technique, so he can get better. This along with getting in better shape should do it.
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5/2/2007  10:25 AM
Curry is a fast learner?

He has been in the league 6 years, can't pass, shoot a free throw, rebound, defend, box out, block shots, rotate on defense, score outside of 8 feet, and still commits the same offensive fouls every game.....

I would see he learning curve is slightly above retarded
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5/2/2007  10:32 AM
Posted by MS:

Curry is a fast learner?

He has been in the league 6 years, can't pass, shoot a free throw, rebound, defend, box out, block shots, rotate on defense, score outside of 8 feet, and still commits the same offensive fouls every game.....

I would see he learning curve is slightly above retarded

He actually CAN do those things, but he doesn't do them consistently. It's the lack of consistently executing that is Curry's problem. When you say he can't do those things, it suggests that he's never shown the ability, but we've seen him have games where he actually does them. It's about improving his consistency and effort level in those areas. I think he actually will be able to shoot from 8-12 feet as he continues to improve. You can tell from the way he shoots his FT's and the few jumpers he's taken that his stroke is VERY good. He just needs better concentration and more reps and he'll be fine.

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5/2/2007  10:40 AM
Posted by nixluva:

What I would add is that Curry often suffers from a lack of concentration. When you look at his game logs, you see a LOT of up and down performances. It's the games when he only gets 3-4 rebs that really hurt his avg. He has to get to the point where he stops doing that. If Curry truly wants to be as good as he says, then he should be successful in improving his rebounding. We all can see that he's not a natural rebounder, but a lot of that is just effort and technique, so he can get better. This along with getting in better shape should do it.

This is the irony of your view. You feel that the games when Curry gets 3 or 4 rebounds are the abberation. I feel that the games that Curry gets 12+ are the abberation.

He naturally doesn't look to rebound, doesn't make the effort and is usually in the wrong spot to try for a rebound. ... and then he doesn't jump. Under those factors, the games when he rebounds well are abberations, IMHO.
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5/2/2007  10:54 AM
I said in another thread that this team is one of the top teams in the league in rebounds even with Curry, so I don't see rebounding as the real problem. I am far more concerned about Curry deficiencies on defense. He needs to focus on becoming a better defensive player (individual and help) and spend time studying tape. If he does that, I don't care if he never averages more than 7 rebounds.
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5/2/2007  10:59 AM
Rebounding is a tremendous problem I don't care if we lead the league, there were a number of games when we needed a reboudning and eddy didn't get it down the stretch and we ended up losing. The Nets was typical eddy, he did it against the pistons, he doesn't try consistently and thats his real problem
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5/2/2007  11:00 AM



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5/2/2007  11:05 AM
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5/2/2007  11:06 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by nixluva:

What I would add is that Curry often suffers from a lack of concentration. When you look at his game logs, you see a LOT of up and down performances. It's the games when he only gets 3-4 rebs that really hurt his avg. He has to get to the point where he stops doing that. If Curry truly wants to be as good as he says, then he should be successful in improving his rebounding. We all can see that he's not a natural rebounder, but a lot of that is just effort and technique, so he can get better. This along with getting in better shape should do it.

This is the irony of your view. You feel that the games when Curry gets 3 or 4 rebounds are the abberation. I feel that the games that Curry gets 12+ are the abberation.

He naturally doesn't look to rebound, doesn't make the effort and is usually in the wrong spot to try for a rebound. ... and then he doesn't jump. Under those factors, the games when he rebounds well are abberations, IMHO.

That's a good point. I think it's worth a look:

Of the 17 games he played In Nov. he had 3 games with fewer than 5 rebs and 3 games at exactly 5 rebs. 11 games w/6 or more rebs
Of the 16 games he played In Dec. he had 3 games with fewer than 5 rebs and 2 games at exactly 5 rebs. 11 games w/6 or more rebs
Of the 14 games he played In Jan. he had 5 games with fewer than 5 rebs. 9 games w/6 or more rebs
Of the 11 games he played In Feb. he had 1 game with fewer than 5 rebs. 10 games w/6 or more rebs.
Of the 14 games he played In Mar. he had 5 games with fewer than 5 rebs. 9 games w/6 or more rebs
Of the 9 games he played In Apr. he had 1 game with fewer than 5 rebs and 1 game at exactly 5 rebs. 7 games w/6 or more rebs.

He had 57 games with 6 or more rebs
6 games with exactly 5 rebs
18 games with less than 5 rebs

Now of course this isn't taking into account mins played, but you get the idea. My point was that he needs to have better focus on that part of the game and to take more pride in rebounding every game. IF he stops having so many games with ultra low rebounds, he'll increase his avg. Even if he doesn't have substantially more high reb games, if he can stop having games where he just disappears on the boards that would help.

I'm sorry I almost forgot to add the 12+ games. I counted 7 games at 12 or more. I think it's more fair to also add 10 or more, in which case he would have 18 games with 10 or more rebs.

[Edited by - nixluva on 05-02-2007 11:10 AM]
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5/2/2007  11:19 AM
Posted by MS:

Rebounding is a tremendous problem I don't care if we lead the league, there were a number of games when we needed a reboudning and eddy didn't get it down the stretch and we ended up losing. The Nets was typical eddy, he did it against the pistons, he doesn't try consistently and thats his real problem


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5/2/2007  11:22 AM
I cant' believe people are defending a 300 pounder that averages 7 rebounds a game. Mind boggling. Do you guys listen to the amount of excuses coming out of your mouths?
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5/2/2007  11:29 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

I cant' believe people are defending a 300 pounder that averages 7 rebounds a game. Mind boggling. Do you guys listen to the amount of excuses coming out of your mouths?


Bip, you're not being fair, all you're looking at are his rebounds. It's not fair to find his "only" flaw and harp on that.

Can you at least harp on his woeful assists, blocks, steals and TOs too?

The real reason why Curry averages 7 rebs a game

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