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EnySpree
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4/29/2007  10:29 PM
Chicago vs. knicks

Clevland vs. knicks

Nets vs.knicks

Detroit vs. Knicks

Now call me a homer if you want, but I think a healthy knicks squad could have competed a little better in the playoffs that Orlando, Miami, Toronto, and wash.

I'm talking about a healthy knicks squad. Even if the depleted team that dressed for the last game of the season could at least give a better effort than those bums in Washington.

I think a healthy knicks team can beat clevland in a series. I think a healthy knicks team can take Chicago to 6 or possibly win. The nets and Detroit are 2 teams that either have the knicks number like the nets or are just flat out better like Detroit.

All the teams that made it to the playoffs in the east, aside from Washington , are at 100%. If the knicks were 100%, they compete and I feel they could best some of these teams or at the very least make it more interesting.

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4/29/2007  10:59 PM
yea im with you but obviously the anti-knicks contingent on the board might bombard martin and andrew with emails to suspend your posting abilities.

fact of the matter is the east ain't that good. the nets are cowards but they are so in the knicks head that i doubt they would do any better than toronto. detroit is pretty flawless but i think anyone could've mustered as good/better fight than the magic. miami is just not that good, they need a lot of help.
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4/29/2007  11:06 PM
Imagine this...
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4/30/2007  1:09 AM
I think the only team that we would have posed a challenge to is Cleveland, and if Washington was healthy, they'd be giving them problems too.
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4/30/2007  1:13 AM
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4/30/2007  1:25 AM
Most of these teams in the East haven't been that impressive. Det, Chi and NJ are the teams that really show me something. I can see this team being a pain in the NECK to play next year in the playoffs. We have size and toughness on the boards. We have breakdown players and overall I am hopeful that we'll shoot the ball better from the perimeter next year. Guys didn't believe me when I said we were as good or better than teams like Tor or Orl, but seeing them in the playoffs you can see that they aren't that good.

Teams wouldn't really want to play us, cuz Steph, Jamal and Nate would be MUCH harder to deal with than any of the guard tandems on some of these teams. Curry and Lee would be real tough to deal with too. Our bench guys Balkman and Collins are high energy guys and overall I think we will pass some of these teams next year. To me WE could be the sleeping giant in the East next year.
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Posted by nixluva:

Most of these teams in the East haven't been that impressive. Det, Chi and NJ are the teams that really show me something. I can see this team being a pain in the NECK to play next year in the playoffs. We have size and toughness on the boards. We have breakdown players and overall I am hopeful that we'll shoot the ball better from the perimeter next year. Guys didn't believe me when I said we were as good or better than teams like Tor or Orl, but seeing them in the playoffs you can see that they aren't that good.

Teams wouldn't really want to play us, cuz Steph, Jamal and Nate would be MUCH harder to deal with than any of the guard tandems on some of these teams. Curry and Lee would be real tough to deal with too. Our bench guys Balkman and Collins are high energy guys and overall I think we will pass some of these teams next year. To me WE could be the sleeping giant in the East next year.

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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by nixluva:

Most of these teams in the East haven't been that impressive. Det, Chi and NJ are the teams that really show me something. I can see this team being a pain in the NECK to play next year in the playoffs. We have size and toughness on the boards. We have breakdown players and overall I am hopeful that we'll shoot the ball better from the perimeter next year. Guys didn't believe me when I said we were as good or better than teams like Tor or Orl, but seeing them in the playoffs you can see that they aren't that good.

Teams wouldn't really want to play us, cuz Steph, Jamal and Nate would be MUCH harder to deal with than any of the guard tandems on some of these teams. Curry and Lee would be real tough to deal with too. Our bench guys Balkman and Collins are high energy guys and overall I think we will pass some of these teams next year. To me WE could be the sleeping giant in the East next year.

To you, what color is the sky in your world?

Keep making jokes but you KNOW what i'm saying it true. Steph is a guy that can go off on a team at a moments notice, Jamal is the same and off the bench so is Nate. NO ONE can stay in front of those guys one on one. Compared to other teams that only have one real breakdown threat on the perimeter, we present a much tougher challenge. Now we can start to add Collins to that group and we really will have a strong guard contingent. Our STRENGTH is postups, penetration and attacking the basket. Those things are tailor made for the playoffs. You have to have VISION to see how this team can eventually develop and obviously it's not as bad as you would LOVE for it to be. it doesn't suit you and your buddies schtick if you admit that the Knicks are building a team that could be successful in the playoffs. You all would love to keep making jokes and ragging on the Knicks, instead of really analyzing this teams prospects for the future.
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4/30/2007  2:00 AM
I don't think the Pistons really care who they play in the NBA. IMO, they are the most underrated team. A rematch of 2005 would be fine by me. Wallace, Webber and McDyess just beat the hell out of Dwight Howard. I am surpise that Howard didn't punch out one of them. It should be good to see what they will do to Big Ben. I wonder if they will hold any punches. Pun intended.

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4/30/2007  2:54 AM
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4/30/2007  5:18 AM
you gotta believe! (at least the warriors fans do)
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4/30/2007  8:39 AM
I think a healthy Knicks squad is still undermanned. For arguments sake, even though there's no way the Knicks had a shot to play the Nets in the first round, let's entertain this.

I think the Pistons sweep the Knicks. They're just that good. Cleveland is our best matchup of the four. At best we win two, and more than likely only win one. Chicago we win one or get swept. The Nets we don't win more than one... they've had our number for years. Trying to be fair here, we're just not in that class yet.
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4/30/2007  8:48 AM
Even though I was so excited ,I believe the 1999 knicks would have never made the 8th seed if the season was 82 games that yr. Ewing would have broken down during reg season instead of playoffs.

oh well
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4/30/2007  8:51 AM
Posted by playa2:

Even though I was so excited ,I believe the 1999 knicks would have never made the 8th seed if the season was 82 games that yr. Ewing would have broken down during reg season instead of playoffs.

oh well

Really? I felt the exact opposite. My feeling that season was in a full season, there's no way we're an eighth seed. More like a fourth. So, to me, it was sort of a fake 1 vs. 8 upset, because we should've been a lot higher than 8th and some of the teams with higher seedings than us wouldn't have had as good a record (percentage wise) as they did if they had to play a full season.

I always felt like that season, we were really a third or fourth seed... I mean, even aside from Ewing, we still had Camby, LJ, Spree, Houston, Ward, Childs... that core alone, even if Ewing missed a fair amount of games, is still high quality, and IMHO, better than the Hawks squad which actually got the 4th seed that year.
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Posted by EnySpree:

Chicago vs. knicks

Clevland vs. knicks

Nets vs.knicks

Detroit vs. Knicks

Now call me a homer if you want, but I think a healthy knicks squad could have competed a little better in the playoffs that Orlando, Miami, Toronto, and wash.

I'm talking about a healthy knicks squad. Even if the depleted team that dressed for the last game of the season could at least give a better effort than those bums in Washington.

I think a healthy knicks team can beat clevland in a series. I think a healthy knicks team can take Chicago to 6 or possibly win. The nets and Detroit are 2 teams that either have the knicks number like the nets or are just flat out better like Detroit.

All the teams that made it to the playoffs in the east, aside from Washington , are at 100%. If the knicks were 100%, they compete and I feel they could best some of these teams or at the very least make it more interesting.

Go knicks.

You know what, you're probably right. I think a healthy Knicks team would've beaten the Pistons, Bulls, Cavs, and Nets at least ONCE. The problem is that the Knicks aren't deserving of playing those teams.
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4/30/2007  10:48 AM
Knicks would have been fine against cleveland or detroit.. i could have seen them winning 2 or more games. Against NJ or Chi it would have been rough
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4/30/2007  11:27 AM
A healthy team, and a well coached team would have been fine, but we are not well coached

Marbury (35 min)/Collins (13 min)
Q 30(min) Crawford 25 min
Balkman (30 min)
Lee (38 min) /Jefferies (10min)
Curry (30min) Rose (15min)

I think that team would have done much better against the bulls because they could use collins and balkman on gordon and deng both of which would have done a little better on defense.

Cleveland sucks, as do the raptors i think we could have beat those teams.
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4/30/2007  1:11 PM
until the knicks can reel off 3 game win streaks in the regular season, we shouldn't be discussing winning a playoff series.

could we put up a fight against the Eastern Conference powerhouses? sure. just like we could have been a .500 team this year. but that didn't turn out so good.

i don't think we should use counterfactuals to say how good (or not) this team is. that's where excuses start. this team is a success when it actually wins games. not when it coulda/shoulda/woulda.
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4/30/2007  3:03 PM
It's not fair to playoff teams when you say a non playoff team could beat one of them in a series.
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4/30/2007  3:29 PM
Posted by JrZyHuStLa:

It's not fair to playoff teams when you say a non playoff team could beat one of them in a series.

It's not about beating them in the series, but I don't think we would've been as pathetic as some of these teams have been. There is NO DOUBT in my mind that we would be better than Orlando! They got over big time this year.
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