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nykbasketball
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3/31/2007  9:57 AM
First, I'll admit it, I hated marbury the last 2 years. He just didnt care and only worried about himself and not the whole team. This year, Marbury has shown me something I have never seen, he leaves it on the floor every game, and literally "takes over games" when its needed. The Dallas game completely changed my opinion on him, ive been liking him more and more as the season went on, but that game just made me realize that Marbury is doing everything you can possibly ask besides blocking shots. He plays extremely hard every night, plays with TENDINITIS (stevie sat out), plays good defense, (I honestly think marbs, mardy, balkman are the only ones who care about defense..along with malik) scores, gets others involved early, but if no one is scoring, he just takes over.

Simply put, he is our MVP by far, and one of the top pg/sg in the NBA
-obviously nash, arenas, wade, and Kobe are better, cnt think of any1 else

YES, ill take marbs over carter...compare their shots per game.. marbs could avg 30 if he wanted
Yes, ill take marbs over t-mac, hes always injured


So its now time for all the Marbury haters to Man Up and say that you were completely wrong about this guy... and is playing inspired basketball right now

I certainly was completely wrong for hating marbury, and he has proved me wrong this entire season



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3/31/2007  10:04 AM
Posted by nykbasketball:

I certainly was completely wrong for hating marbury, and he has proved me wrong this entire season

Were you wrong? What is wrong about not liking a player who did not give the effort when he could have? I didn't like him as a player for not giving the effort as well. This year he has changed. His effort has been consistent enough, and that combined with his superior athletic ability has made him a very good player. I like the way he his playing. If he reverts back to a player that does not try (especially on defense) I will be disappointed and not like him as much.

What is wrong with that?
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3/31/2007  10:33 AM
I'm talking about all the people who right now dont think he is trying...which couldnt be more wrong
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3/31/2007  11:13 AM
I don't hate Marbury (the player) this season. I see him working very hard. I don't know Marbury the man.
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3/31/2007  1:15 PM
Posted by nykbasketball:

I'm talking about all the people who right now dont think he is trying...which couldnt be more wrong

If I'm not mistaken....I think nybasketball is talking about all those Marbury critics/bashers who said this guy is not a winner.

I've never gone against Marbury. Even when the overwhelming majority wanted to bring up the fact that "he's never won where ever he's been". I felt he was misunderstood by many; and although he did pout a lot; a lot of you were so critical about him when he didn't celebrate with his teammates.

The guy wants to win, and always has. He has a different way of showing it then most would like to see; but he wants to win. Get the right talent in here with him; and he'll do just taht. Win! We need more balance from our frontcourt. Some finishers who will not fumble the ball, and be a menace on the defensive end. Without David Lee, we're really suffering in the front court.

Get KG in here next year... I'd do it for Lee/Frye/expiring contracts etc. Replace lee's 10 boards with KG's 20ppg/10rpg plus defensive presence.

Back to Marbury.....

Even though the fact remains that the Knicks are still not "winners"; with Marbury playing well; it's more than obvious that the haters are silent; because they can't have their usual field day on Marbury (with the posted pics and all that).

Funny how they can talk about Marbury when he's down; but they're absent when he's up. It's like calling the kettle black. Look in the mirror.

Any way....

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3/31/2007  1:24 PM
Posted by NJK:


Back to Marbury.....

Even though the fact remains that the Knicks are still not "winners"; with Marbury playing well;


this says it all
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3/31/2007  1:37 PM
You have to have a TEAM to win. KG knows this all too well. In fact MANY great players have been in similar situations. Steph unfortunately has been in that pit for most of his career. That to me is just bad luck. If you put him on any good team right now, he'd be successful just like anyone else. There's nothing that he does so wrong that would make his teams lose just because he's on the team. This is just people looking at the results and drawing that conclusion.
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3/31/2007  1:39 PM
He still needs to go............. and I like marbury.
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3/31/2007  1:46 PM
Posted by nixluva:

You have to have a TEAM to win. KG knows this all too well. In fact MANY great players have been in similar situations. Steph unfortunately has been in that pit for most of his career. That to me is just bad luck. If you put him on any good team right now, he'd be successful just like anyone else. There's nothing that he does so wrong that would make his teams lose just because he's on the team. This is just people looking at the results and drawing that conclusion.

Put Steph on a good team right now and he probably would be successful. I don't know if you could say that for each year in his career. Remember, at one point in his stay in NY he was a very bad defensive player. Some might say one of the worst in the league.
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3/31/2007  1:52 PM
Posted by nixluva:

There's nothing that he does so wrong that would make his teams lose just because he's on the team.

he wants the ball at crunch time when time after time he proves he is clearly NOT a finisher.

Steph is a phenom thru 3.

one serious strike: he doesn't rebound. Sterph has not 1 triple double as a Knick and hasn't gotten one in five years.



[Edited by - McK1 on 31-03-2007 1:56 PM]
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3/31/2007  2:02 PM
Posted by NJK:
Posted by nykbasketball:

I'm talking about all the people who right now dont think he is trying...which couldnt be more wrong

Even though the fact remains that the Knicks are still not "winners"; with Marbury playing well; it's more than obvious that the haters are silent; because they can't have their usual field day on Marbury (with the posted pics and all that).


Maybe they're out enjoying a nice day with their families, he with all of 64 posts in 3 years.

Why do you think people who don't like Marbury should be "silent"? Those who don't like him haven't liked him in spite of many previous high scoring outings.

How did you like his 3:5 assist to turnover ratio?

But somehow there is testosterone in the air today because the Knicks got within 2 points of the Mavs. They now join the ranks of other "mighty" sub-.500 teams to do so, like: Minny, Memphis, Sacramento, Toronto, and Indy.

I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.
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3/31/2007  2:04 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:



I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

Not only that but Marbury scored 43 points!!!! in a loss. What else is new.
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3/31/2007  2:09 PM
Marbury is a Loser. Get over it.
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3/31/2007  2:13 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
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I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

Not only that but Marbury scored 43 points!!!! in a loss. What else is new.

Just remember, in Marbury's world, where he's the "best" PG, his profitable sneaker endorsement business is a "charity," and his 20M/year job is a hobby, 35 wins is a winning season, and a loss to the Mavs is better than what should be a win against Portland.

Marb's World is like a screwy amusement park ride that exhilarates some and nauseates others.
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3/31/2007  2:14 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BlueSeats:



I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

Not only that but Marbury scored 43 points!!!! in a loss. What else is new.

I'm curious as to what argument one can make -- other than reverting to the coventional, populist, view about Marbury and his game -- that from watching his play yesterday, including the 43 point output, is significant indication that one should believe this was a major factor for the Knicks losing?
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3/31/2007  2:28 PM

Is it really so hard to applaud the good effort Marbs has given for a good part of the season...The guy single handed kept the Knicks (your favorite team?) in the game against the best team in basketball in a push to make the playoffs...All we can get from the haters is that he is not a winner...We have 4 key players out and Marbs is playing his best basketball injured and all we can get from you guys is that he is a loser...
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3/31/2007  2:34 PM
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BlueSeats:



I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

Not only that but Marbury scored 43 points!!!! in a loss. What else is new.

I'm curious as to what argument one can make -- other than reverting to the coventional, populist, view about Marbury and his game -- that from watching his play yesterday, including the 43 point output, is significant indication that one should believe this was a major factor for the Knicks losing?
Because they believe that 43 points, 5assists from our point guard and 12 team assist plus 26 turnovers from our team is not a winning fomula............. I don't disagree.
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3/31/2007  2:37 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by PresIke:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BlueSeats:



I'm surprised some here are inside posting on their computers when they should be driving around town waiving flags and honking their horns like we've won the world cup.

Not only that but Marbury scored 43 points!!!! in a loss. What else is new.

I'm curious as to what argument one can make -- other than reverting to the coventional, populist, view about Marbury and his game -- that from watching his play yesterday, including the 43 point output, is significant indication that one should believe this was a major factor for the Knicks losing?
Because they believe that 43 points, 5assists from our point guard and 12 team assist plus 26 turnovers from our team is not a winning fomula............. I don't disagree.

Did you watch the game last night? Seriously.
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3/31/2007  2:41 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Is it really so hard to applaud the good effort Marbs has given for a good part of the season...The guy single handed kept the Knicks (your favorite team?) in the game against the best team in basketball in a push to make the playoffs...All we can get from the haters is that he is not a winner...We have 4 key players out and Marbs is playing his best basketball injured and all we can get from you guys is that he is a loser...

Maybe if he gave a good effort for a good part of the season they wouldn't have to make a desperate push. But he didn't, like he hasn't for most of his career. Why? Because he's a loser.
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3/31/2007  2:46 PM
Posted by Andrew:
Posted by nixluva:

You have to have a TEAM to win. KG knows this all too well. In fact MANY great players have been in similar situations. Steph unfortunately has been in that pit for most of his career. That to me is just bad luck. If you put him on any good team right now, he'd be successful just like anyone else. There's nothing that he does so wrong that would make his teams lose just because he's on the team. This is just people looking at the results and drawing that conclusion.

Put Steph on a good team right now and he probably would be successful. I don't know if you could say that for each year in his career. Remember, at one point in his stay in NY he was a very bad defensive player. Some might say one of the worst in the league.

true... When Marbury has been thinking on the lines of being THE star on the team (with his play in the past); then I can associate with that. Given time and experience; some players get to realize that they have to put team first, and go out and play that way. Here's where it's unfair to label Marbury as losing where ever he goes.

If he's playing well like he is, and we're still losing; it doesn't fall on Marbury's shoulders. We need a better Eddy Curry in the post who knows how to pass out of double teams, and knows how to put his hands up on "D". We need other players to step it up as well.

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