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3/30/2007  10:10 AM
Still Ailing, Knicks’ Richardson May Have Back Surgery.
New York Times.
03-30-07.
By Howard Beck

Quentin Richardson’s season is over and his future is somewhat clouded because of a back injury that apparently will require surgery.

Richardson has missed seven consecutive games because of what the Knicks have classified as a “sore lower back.” The team has given no other details and continues to call Richardson’s status day to day.

But Richardson recently told teammates that he will not play again this season and that he would probably have surgery to repair a ruptured disk. Richardson was said to be seeking a second opinion before committing to the operation. The typical recovery time is four to five months, which means that if all goes well, Richardson would be back for training camp in October.

Richardson would become the second Knicks starter to undergo season-ending surgery. Jamal Crawford had ankle surgery March 2. The Knicks are also missing forward David Lee. Coach Isiah Thomas has implied lately that he did not expect any of the three to play again this season.

The Knicks lost a third guard, Steve Francis, to a right ankle sprain in Wednesday’s victory against Cleveland. Francis did not fly with the team to Dallas yesterday, and he is considered doubtful for tonight’s game against the Mavericks.

The team continues to keep Richardson’s status vague, and Thomas did not acknowledge the possibility of surgery.

“That I don’t know,” Thomas said yesterday. “That’s up to the doctors and him and whatever they decide to do.” Asked if Richardson would miss the final 11 games of the season, Thomas said: “Again, I don’t know that. If it happens, there’s next year.”

Back troubles have haunted Richardson for at least three years, dating to his final months with the Los Angeles Clippers. Richardson missed 12 games late in the 2003-4 season because of back spasms. He signed as a free agent with the Phoenix Suns that summer, and health concerns were a factor in the Clippers’ decision to let him go.

Richardson was sturdy in his one season with Phoenix, playing 79 regular-season games and 15 playoff games. He was traded to the Knicks for Kurt Thomas in June 2005. That deal was delayed for several days when the Knicks learned that Richardson’s back was not insured against a career-ending injury. The matter was resolved when the Suns agreed to also trade their first-round draft pick, which became Nate Robinson.

If the rest of this season is wiped out, Richardson will have missed 55 games in two years with the Knicks — 30 because of back problems. Richardson played only 10 minutes in two other games this month because of the injury.

The Knicks have not made Richardson available to reporters for two weeks. Richardson has repeatedly played down his injury, insisting that he has no structural damage and that the condition could be resolved with rest and rehabilitation.

The good news for Richardson — assuming he does have surgery — is that athletes are generally able to resume their careers.

“The majority of athletes, 85 to 90 percent, come back to their elite level of competition,” said Dr. Andrew Hecht, the co-chief of spine surgery for the Department of Orthopaedics at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in Manhattan.

Hecht was speaking generally and has no direct knowledge of Richardson’s case. Hecht has worked with several top athletes and called the disk injury “one of the most common things that we see in elite athletes.”

When a disk ruptures, it can put pressure on a nearby nerve, causing back and leg pain. According to Hecht, some athletes are able to recover with therapy, anti-inflammatories and sometimes an injection.

The Knicks have apparently been following such a treatment plan all season. Back spasms forced Richardson to miss 11 games in a row from Dec. 16 to Jan. 5, but he returned and played for the next two months. The problem resurfaced March 3, when he had to leave a game in Atlanta after 10 minutes.

“A lot of people can get better with conservative treatment,” Hecht said.

If treatment fails, he said, the alternative is surgery to remove the loose disk fragment. Recovery time can vary, but Hecht said the average is between four and five months. Peja Stojakovic of the Hornets had the operation in mid-December and has not played since. He might return tomorrow against the Knicks.

When healthy, Richardson is the Knicks’ best 3-point shooter, their top perimeter defender and a valued leader. A starter at both shooting guard and small forward, Richardson averaged 13 points and a career-high 7.2 rebounds in 49 games this season. He is owed $26.2 million over the next three seasons.

With Richardson, Crawford and Lee out, the Knicks (31-40) recently lost six of seven games, jeopardizing their playoff hopes. Now they will probably be without Francis — who replaced Crawford in the lineup — for at least a game or two. Francis stayed behind yesterday to get a magnetic resonance imaging exam.

“We’re definitely not at full throttle,” said Stephon Marbury, who will probably have a new backcourt partner — either Robinson or the rookie Mardy Collins — in Dallas. “For us, our mind-set has to continue. Each and every night we go on the court, we play with the same heart.”

Thomas strained to put a positive spin on the injuries, saying they would help speed the development of the Knicks’ younger players.

“The silver lining in dark cloud, they’re getting a chance to play in pressure situations when the game is on the line and the season is on the line,” Thomas said.
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3/30/2007  10:32 AM
Maybe Balkman at SG tonight? I cant see either nate or Mardy starting at the 2... unless Mardy is at the 1 and steph is at the 2...

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3/30/2007  10:33 AM
I'd like to see Balkman play some 2.
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3/30/2007  10:43 AM
this is not good news for q. i had 2 bad discs which, after about a year of injections, conservative therapy, chiropractors, electro-stim, etc still required surgery. the back pain part of it is bad, but what is the most debilatating thing abot this injury is the 'sciatica-like' pain that shoots down your leg. that is UNBEARABLE. the herniated discs push against your sciatic nerve and that creates a shooting pain like no other i have ever experienced. i couldnt stand-up straight, walk without pain, hell, sleep was in 15 minute intervals waking-up screeming b/c the pain was so bad. it's safe to say that i didn't sleep an entire night for a year pre surgery.

so, i had the surgery in june of '05 ( http://www.webmd.com/back-pain/Discectomy-or-microdiscectomy-for-a-herniated-disc ). rehabbed for about 3 or 4 months afterwards 3 times a week and felt MUCH better. BUT, even now, after surgery, i am not 100% and only with the help of acupuncture, have i been able to finally get rid of the leg pain associated with it. funny thing about the mind/body, if you are feeling stress, the mind "convinces" the body that the area is still "injured" when, in fact, it has been totally repaired.

and, i am just a normal joe, i cant imagine what it would be like playing on this type of injury the way he has. also, after surgery, i HIGHLY doubt he will ever be 100% again. i hope i am wrong about that.

anyone that thinks q has been a pansie this season is crazy.
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3/30/2007  10:44 AM
Posted by Caseloads:

Maybe Balkman at SG tonight? I cant see either nate or Mardy starting at the 2... unless Mardy is at the 1 and steph is at the 2...

you beat me by a nano second!

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3/30/2007  10:46 AM
Posted by jimimou:

this is not good news for q. i had 2 bad discs which, after about a year of injections, conservative therapy, chiropractors, electro-stim, etc still required surgery. the back pain part of it is bad, but what is the most debilatating thing abot this injury is the 'sciatica-like' pain that shoots down your leg. that is UNBEARABLE. the herniated discs push against your sciatic nerve and that creates a shooting pain like no other i have ever experienced. i couldnt stand-up straight, walk without pain, hell, sleep was in 15 minute intervals waking-up screeming b/c the pain was so bad. it's safe to say that i didn't sleep an entire night for a year pre surgery.

so, i had the surgery in june of '05 ( http://www.webmd.com/back-pain/Discectomy-or-microdiscectomy-for-a-herniated-disc ). rehabbed for about 3 or 4 months afterwards 3 times a week and felt MUCH better. BUT, even now, after surgery, i am not 100% and only with the help of acupuncture, have i been able to finally get rid of the leg pain associated with it. funny thing about the mind/body, if you are feeling stress, the mind "convinces" the body that the area is still "injured" when, in fact, it has been totally repaired.

and, i am just a normal joe, i cant imagine what it would be like playing on this type of injury the way he has. also, after surgery, i HIGHLY doubt he will ever be 100% again. i hope i am wrong about that.

anyone that thinks q has been a pansie this season is crazy.

the one difference- and I don't think we know anything about Q's condition- is that he might have one bad disk, not the two you had- and that the 1 disk might not be in such bad shape as what you might have had.
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3/30/2007  10:48 AM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by jimimou:

this is not good news for q. i had 2 bad discs which, after about a year of injections, conservative therapy, chiropractors, electro-stim, etc still required surgery. the back pain part of it is bad, but what is the most debilatating thing abot this injury is the 'sciatica-like' pain that shoots down your leg. that is UNBEARABLE. the herniated discs push against your sciatic nerve and that creates a shooting pain like no other i have ever experienced. i couldnt stand-up straight, walk without pain, hell, sleep was in 15 minute intervals waking-up screeming b/c the pain was so bad. it's safe to say that i didn't sleep an entire night for a year pre surgery.

so, i had the surgery in june of '05 ( http://www.webmd.com/back-pain/Discectomy-or-microdiscectomy-for-a-herniated-disc ). rehabbed for about 3 or 4 months afterwards 3 times a week and felt MUCH better. BUT, even now, after surgery, i am not 100% and only with the help of acupuncture, have i been able to finally get rid of the leg pain associated with it. funny thing about the mind/body, if you are feeling stress, the mind "convinces" the body that the area is still "injured" when, in fact, it has been totally repaired.

and, i am just a normal joe, i cant imagine what it would be like playing on this type of injury the way he has. also, after surgery, i HIGHLY doubt he will ever be 100% again. i hope i am wrong about that.

anyone that thinks q has been a pansie this season is crazy.

the one difference- and I don't think we know anything about Q's condition- is that he might have one bad disk, not the two you had- and that the 1 disk might not be in such bad shape as what you might have had.

i dont know. seems like he's had this for almost 3 yrs now. only had mine for like 12 months before surgery. one's bad enough though...i hope his aint that bad.
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3/30/2007  11:11 AM
he also needs to lose like 15-20 pounds.
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3/30/2007  11:18 AM
I hope he can have the surgery and a full recovery. I gained much respect for him as a player and leader in his time here. I always thought he was a good player, but he also has some intangible qualities that are good for a team. If he can come back relatively healthy and able to resume his career I would be very happy for him.
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3/30/2007  11:23 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

he also needs to lose like 15-20 pounds.

me or q? ha!
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3/30/2007  11:26 AM
id like to see Q have this surgery this has obviously been plagueing him for a long time its time he takes care of it and gets healthy so he can contribute
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3/30/2007  11:34 AM
I seriously feel that no matter what happens with Q-operational success or not-you HAVE to put him in a role that is not so vital on this team. He is a sixth man on this team. This pushes Crawford into a starting role.
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3/30/2007  11:35 AM
the trade is turning out to be a bad one.

we're on the hook for an additional $20+ mil and 2 more years of q's contract on the cap.

and nate has been dissapointing.
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3/30/2007  11:37 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

the trade is turning out to be a bad one.

we're on the hook for an additional $20+ mil and 2 more years of q's contract on the cap.

and nate has been dissapointing.

I was thinking the same thing. But if we can make Q a contributer off the bench and parlay Nate into a starting 2 or 3 or 1(hey any which way you can), I'm still good. I mean all we gave up was KT.
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3/30/2007  11:46 AM
I wouldn't say the trade was bad...re-signing KT to make the trade was bad. This move was lateral at worst. With everything Kurt's given Phoenix, I'd still rather have Nate as a trade chip and Q's perimeter D and 3 point shot.
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3/30/2007  11:54 AM
trading KT needed to be done in order to clear up playing time for Channing & D Lee... i don't know how much better Isiah could have done in exchange for KT than Q Rich & a #21 pick... the risk was warranted & it was a good trade to make IMO... Isiah probably could have made better use of the pick rather than to take Nate Robinson though.
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3/30/2007  11:58 AM
Posted by TMS:

trading KT needed to be done in order to clear up playing time for Channing & D Lee... i don't know how much better Isiah could have done in exchange for KT than Q Rich & a #21 pick... the risk was warranted & it was a good trade to make IMO... Isiah probably could have made better use of the pick rather than to take Nate Robinson though.

I agree with your sentiments here. It was a good gamble pick. In hindsight the only thing I would have done was pick someone other than Nate. Jack, Garcia and Petro would be better right now.
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3/30/2007  11:59 AM
Posted by TMS:

trading KT needed to be done in order to clear up playing time for Channing & D Lee... i don't know how much better Isiah could have done in exchange for KT than Q Rich & a #21 pick... the risk was warranted & it was a good trade to make IMO... Isiah probably could have made better use of the pick rather than to take Nate Robinson though.

Just think we could have had Jarrett Jack....and we NEVER would have gotten into the Marcus Williams debate. Instead we got Webster with hops.


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3/30/2007  12:00 PM
we coulda had Monta Ellis too.
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3/30/2007  12:05 PM
wishing all good to Q but I doubt we will see him again in Knicks uniform...
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