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bobs3304
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3/29/2007  7:44 PM
Shaq had Kobe and Wade.

Yao has TMac.

Duncan has Ginobili.



What am I trying to get at?


Assuming Curry improves his passing, if we had a consistent perimeter threat, he'd REALLY be able to feed off of Curry's double teams.

Marbury isn't a perimeter threat; he's more of an interior threat b/c he drives. He's also never averaged more than 20 points a game. And he's our PG...

Same with Francis...



Last night Tim Legler on NBA shootaround called Curry a "beast" and that he's one if not the best "back to the basket scorers in the league".

All the other premier low post scoring Centers in the league have a reliable SG that can put up big points. Marbury and Francis are short guards who can't do the things a Kobe or a TMac or even a Ginobili can. (And don't write off Ginobili, that cat can ball and defend, HE was the Finals MVP in '05, not Duncan...)


If Curry's our "franchise player" like Dolan said...........that's what we need.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 03-29-2007 7:45 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/29/2007  7:51 PM
we need someone that can hit an outside shot with regularity.
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3/29/2007  7:54 PM
Posted by franco12:

we need someone that can hit an outside shot with regularity.


Not only that, but someone that can play some defense, and bring the scoring load every night.

Crawford's defense sucks, and his offense isn't consistent enough. He's not a premier scorer...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/29/2007  9:15 PM
For a second I thought a "kobe" was a broke ass skanky white girl. EDIT: from Denver.

[Edited by - enyspree on 29-03-2007 9:17 PM]
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3/29/2007  9:23 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Curry Needs a "Kobe"

Good because those are really easy to find... D'oh!
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3/29/2007  10:13 PM
Why not get Curry A Jordan?

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3/29/2007  10:49 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by bobs3304:

Curry Needs a "Kobe"

Good because those are really easy to find... D'oh!


isn't that the point...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/29/2007  11:14 PM
So many things wrong with this premise.

First, Curry is nowhere near the player that those guys are and should never be mentioned in the same breath. Aside from needing a "Kobe", who can carry him in the clutch and play on the perimeter, he needs someone to rebound for him, someone to defend the opposing center and someone to defend the paint.

Secondly, and most importantly, the Knicks no longer have the chips to acquire a "Kobe" like player. They still owe 2 #1 draft picks, they don't have any young borderline all stars with reasonable contracts, that other teams would covet, they don't have the cap space if one should be available through free agency.
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3/29/2007  11:22 PM
How about we get Curry a dietitian?

A membership to Weight watchers?

I thought at Twenty mil Marbury was a supastar?

Lets grow a sidkick rather than starphuch one.
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3/29/2007  11:30 PM
The premise is wrong, because any way you slice it, there's just no sense in trying to find something you little chance to get. Players like Kobe are rare and this team isn't in a position to get one. What we need to do is try to put together a good TEAM period. We know we need a SF and a PG, so i'd expect that's what Isiah will look to add. FInish developing the players we have. There is a TON of upside on this team still. Some of you don't want to believe that, but we have 3 rooks on the roster right now that could develop into bigger contributors. We have some 2nd year players in the same situation. So that's 6 players right there and the 7th will be drafted this summer.

I completely disagree with anyone that seems to think our future is somehow dark due to the lack of draft picks or cap space for the next 2 years. We just have to find other ways as Isiah has shown already. You can be a good team in this league without a specific Superstar. Det and Chi don't have that one guy who is the dominant star. We're probably going to continue to be built in the same way. Unless someone is willing to give up their superstar just to start over.
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3/29/2007  11:44 PM
bobs, curry isnt anywhere near as good as duncan, shaq, ans yao are so why bother even making that comparison?

[Edited by - Slimpack on 03-29-2007 11:45 PM]
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3/30/2007  12:10 AM
Bring Bernard King back from retirement! I'm sure his injuries are healed by now.
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3/30/2007  12:15 AM
Curry needs to challenge shots in the paint, box out and rotate.
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Posted by Allanfan20:

Bring Bernard King back from retirement! I'm sure his injuries are healed by now.

I would take King and Cartwright over Marbury and Curry every time.
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3/30/2007  12:29 AM
Curry needs Nash, Kobe, KG, and Duncan just to compensate for his flaws.
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3/30/2007  1:49 AM
all in agreement, but to be fair he's the yungest of all them.


it's a shot premise, but worthy imo.


forget the defense and rebounding, it's his passing that's the key. he learns to pass, we get a go-to-SG, and bam, that's money.

The rest we can figure out...


Hell....look at Webber. Consistent top 5 Forward and he was never a dominant rebounder and a weak defender... Passing and scoring was what he was great at...


Think of that pass to Lee against Orlando.

Curry can do it...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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Posted by nixluva:

The premise is wrong, because any way you slice it, there's just no sense in trying to find something you little chance to get. Players like Kobe are rare and this team isn't in a position to get one.


Tell that to the Wizards...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/30/2007  7:36 AM
Posted by bobs3304:

all in agreement, but to be fair he's the yungest of all them.


it's a shot premise, but worthy imo.


forget the defense and rebounding, it's his passing that's the key. he learns to pass, we get a go-to-SG, and bam, that's money.

The rest we can figure out...


Hell....look at Webber. Consistent top 5 Forward and he was never a dominant rebounder and a weak defender... Passing and scoring was what he was great at...


Think of that pass to Lee against Orlando.

Curry can do it...

Let's not get crazy here. Webber's one of the best passing big men in the history of the game. I wish it would work out with Curry as our franchise player but it's a poor gamble IMO.
And Curry's not even that young BTW. He's 2 years younger than the average NBA player and he's played six seasons.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 03-30-2007 07:37 AM]
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Posted by bobs3304:

Shaq had Kobe and Wade.

Yao has TMac.

Duncan has Ginobili.



What am I trying to get at?


Assuming Curry improves his passing, if we had a consistent perimeter threat, he'd REALLY be able to feed off of Curry's double teams.

Marbury isn't a perimeter threat; he's more of an interior threat b/c he drives. He's also never averaged more than 20 points a game. And he's our PG...

Same with Francis...



Last night Tim Legler on NBA shootaround called Curry a "beast" and that he's one if not the best "back to the basket scorers in the league".

All the other premier low post scoring Centers in the league have a reliable SG that can put up big points. Marbury and Francis are short guards who can't do the things a Kobe or a TMac or even a Ginobili can. (And don't write off Ginobili, that cat can ball and defend, HE was the Finals MVP in '05, not Duncan...)


If Curry's our "franchise player" like Dolan said...........that's what we need.

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 03-29-2007 7:45 PM]

Yea we could of had Vince Carter for Jamal Crawford when the raps were giving him away but zeke wanted to keep Jamal.

THAT NON MOVE TOLD ME WHERE WE WERE HEADED



[Edited by - playa2 on 30-03-2007 07:48]
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3/30/2007  8:34 AM
Posted by bobs3304:

all in agreement, but to be fair he's the yungest of all them.


it's a shot premise, but worthy imo.


forget the defense and rebounding, it's his passing that's the key. he learns to pass, we get a go-to-SG, and bam, that's money.

The rest we can figure out...


Hell....look at Webber. Consistent top 5 Forward and he was never a dominant rebounder and a weak defender... Passing and scoring was what he was great at...


Think of that pass to Lee against Orlando.

Curry can do it...

I doubt it. first I dont think curry will every learn to pass well consistently although i will admit is assists are up this season. second the c-webb comparison is way off, even after chris webber was rendered a gimp he was still a much better rebounder than curry, a 5 times better passer, and was even a better scorer as well, which is sad since thats the only thing curry does well. Im tempted to say he was a better defender too since as of right now webber is averaging more blocks per game than curry, but I guess I wont go that far.

[Edited by - slimpack on 03-30-2007 08:38 AM]
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