Posted by Bippity10:

PG-Jamal(possibly)/Mardy
SG-Jamal(possibly)/Nate
SF-Balkman
PF-Lee/Frye
C-Curry/Morris

This is based on where we stand now on the 4th, 5th and 6th years of our 15 year plan. This is the core that is taking us into the next level of competition. Not saying the vets won't be here but this is clearly our core for the next generation. The core we are going to battle for a title with. Am I missing someone?

When I look at it I see a couple things. No franchise player. A couple okay defenders but overall a bad defensive team. I see a high turnover team with no distributors. I see one consistent long range jumpshooter and 2 guys who can actually consistenlty hit outisde of 15 feet. I see a strong rebounding team that will battle on the boards. Now as I compare that team to my team today. As we start to phase out our veterans my main question is, WHAT IS CHANGING?

Posted by Bippity10:

PG-Jamal(possibly)/Mardy
SG-Jamal(possibly)/Nate
SF-Balkman
PF-Lee/Frye
C-Curry/Morris

This is based on where we stand now on the 4th, 5th and 6th years of our 15 year plan. This is the core that is taking us into the next level of competition. Not saying the vets won't be here but this is clearly our core for the next generation. The core we are going to battle for a title with. Am I missing someone?

When I look at it I see a couple things. No franchise player. A couple okay defenders but overall a bad defensive team. I see a high turnover team with no distributors. I see one consistent long range jumpshooter and 2 guys who can actually consistenlty hit outisde of 15 feet. I see a strong rebounding team that will battle on the boards. Now as I compare that team to my team today. As we start to phase out our veterans my main question is, WHAT IS CHANGING?

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by nixluva:


We at least have a style of play established, so now we have to refine the roster to fit that even more.

Just curious, how would you describe that style of play?

Quite obviously this is going to be a Post up team with deep threats on the perimeter along with some slashing to the basket, but it's all going to be predicated on our strong post up game. He just added another post threat in Morris and obviously has stated that is the direction the team is headed in. We're going to play a power game. He stressed more easy higher % shots
as his goal in the preseason and the best way to do that is the attack the basket. We start with the Bigs and continue to pound teams with our guards penetrating often as well. We of course expect to march to the FT line a lot like we have the last 2 years. This is due to the way we play which is to go hard at the basket as much as possible. Also by pounding the offensive boards this helps a lot as well.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by nixluva:


We at least have a style of play established, so now we have to refine the roster to fit that even more.

Just curious, how would you describe that style of play?

Quite obviously this is going to be a Post up team with deep threats on the perimeter along with some slashing to the basket, but it's all going to be predicated on our strong post up game. He just added another post threat in Morris and obviously has stated that is the direction the team is headed in. We're going to play a power game. He stressed more easy higher % shots
as his goal in the preseason and the best way to do that is the attack the basket. We start with the Bigs and continue to pound teams with our guards penetrating often as well. We of course expect to march to the FT line a lot like we have the last 2 years. This is due to the way we play which is to go hard at the basket as much as possible. Also by pounding the offensive boards this helps a lot as well.

I'm confused. First you tell me we already have a style already established, the you tell me what it's "clearly" going to be.

This is similar to your off-season stance, where from the moment Isiah described his 'Quick' offense you were sure it was - before a single game was played - the "PERFECT" offense for this team. No one was allowed to doubt our players ability to orchestrate, facilitate, and...uhm...establish that offense.

What I'm really interested in hearing is, what is the style that we have presently ESTABLISHED?

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by nixluva:


We at least have a style of play established, so now we have to refine the roster to fit that even more.

Just curious, how would you describe that style of play?

Quite obviously this is going to be a Post up team with deep threats on the perimeter along with some slashing to the basket, but it's all going to be predicated on our strong post up game. He just added another post threat in Morris and obviously has stated that is the direction the team is headed in. We're going to play a power game. He stressed more easy higher % shots
as his goal in the preseason and the best way to do that is the attack the basket. We start with the Bigs and continue to pound teams with our guards penetrating often as well. We of course expect to march to the FT line a lot like we have the last 2 years. This is due to the way we play which is to go hard at the basket as much as possible. Also by pounding the offensive boards this helps a lot as well.

I'm confused. First you tell me we already have a style already established, the you tell me what it's "clearly" going to be.

This is similar to your off-season stance, where from the moment Isiah described his 'Quick' offense you were sure it was - before a single game was played - the "PERFECT" offense for this team. No one was allowed to doubt our players ability to orchestrate, facilitate, and...uhm...establish that offense.

What I'm really interested in hearing is, what is the style that we have presently ESTABLISHED?

I still think we COULD run the uptempo aspects of the "QUICK" offense, as we've seen when they've played without Curry the team can play in a totally different way. It was ISIAH'S in season decision to go with the post ups more and more, since that made the most sense if you have Curry out there and he's able to play like he has for long minutes each game. I think it was a smart decision overall to go this way. Instead of sticking with the other aspects of the offense and waiting for the team to come around.

The change is just in the area of focus we're still playing the same offense, but not all of the variations of it. We still run the same sets as they always did in the "QUICK" offense. Only now there's more of an emphasis on the post. Another problem is that Curry hasn't yet learned how to read a defense and that limits some of the things this offense is designed to do. He once in a while makes the right pass, but most often he doesn't. I will say that I think he'll get better. Adding Morris could be a big boost for this team in this system, but we'll have to see. He seems to have the tools needed. Including better passing than Curry. You know I know you probably thought you caught me out there. Nice try but contrary to what ever it is that you think you got me on. I do know basketball enough to understand what is going on. Since you're so damn smart why don't you break down the sets we've been running and explain what is different between what the team was doing earlier and what it's doing now. Have the basic sets changed? You teach us smart guy!

When I speak of establishing a style, that doesn't mean that we've PERFECTED it, nor that we have all of the necessary players to make it work at it's optimum level. To establish something means to begin or start it off, or do you think that's all gonna come inside of one season with these players. Given more time playing in this system they'll get BETTER. IS THAT FREAKIN CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU?

Not in the least.

What style have we established?