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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
For the next 2yrs that is
http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spberg235141713mar23,0,6804408.column?coll=ny-sports-print So it sounds like the cap is going to be a major priority in 2yrs. I guess we'll have some major indications when we see what they do with the rookies. But why should Grunwald be concerned with the Cap? "It ain't his Money"! [Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-23-2007 10:00 AM] LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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fishmike
Posts: 53903 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
EVIDENT PROGRESS
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
Posted by djsunyc:Posted by TrueBlue: LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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islesfan
Posts: 9999 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 7/19/2004 Member: #712 |
Nice, that buys Isiah at least 2 more years. Of course he'll need 3-4 years after that to implement his "new" getting under the cap and build through free agency strategy.
Hmmm, I guess it is our money afterall. If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
Hello I must mention this once again and ask.....
Is anyone disturbed by the fact that Grunwald has come out speaking very few words this yr by saying no one on the roster is untouchable? Admist a playoff race mind you. LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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BlueSeats
Posts: 27272 Alba Posts: 41 Joined: 11/6/2005 Member: #1024 |
I really see this as nothing short of an admission of failure. It's an aknowledgment that youth and capspace is the key and, ergo, we set ourselves back greatly with long, onerous and unmovable contracts and trading away high draft picks for low.
Had isiah seen the light when he got here we could be headed into capspace this summer WITH something like the #9, #8, and #2 picks already on our roster, with another lottery pick this summer. Instead we get to go through the motions for two more years seeing if the plan will change every time some overpaid project becomes available. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
I really don't know what the heck you ladies are blathering about. It's been common knowledge what the Knicks Cap situations was and when they'd likely be in a better cap position. EVERYONE knows the Knicks will be out from under the huge Contracts in 2 years. That doesn't change anything. I always felt the Knicks would look to that point in time to worry about deals that require cap space. They basically have no choice, but to wait for that.
in the meantime, as far as the roster is concerned, it's business as usual. We've been operating under the same rules for 3 years. We look for talent in the same ways we always have. The difference is that we've already added a lot of the talent we need. Just because the team is currently having some issues, doesn't change the reality that this team has a nice talent base. Are we any less talented than any of the other young up and coming teams? We've done well in adding talent over the last 2 offseasons. We now have fewer needs than we did 2 years ago. We already have an idea of what kind of players this team needs. That doesn't mean that we MUST fill that need with an All Star. By the way, it's very difficult to make deals for those kinds of players unless a team is practically giving one away. If they're really playing well most teams elect to KEEP their stars. There has to be some sort of problem with the player or the team is giving up on it's current course. You just never know when a team is ready to make that kind of change, so the Knicks will wait and see what develops. So we draft well, look for good FA's and continue to develop our current players. Nothing has changed. |
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TrueBlue
Posts: 29144 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 9/20/2006 Member: #1172 |
Posted by nixluva: New Jersey got Vince without giving up much Denver got A.I without giving up much Seattle got Ray Allen without giving up much Houston got Tracy MacGrady without giving up much Clippers got Elton Brand without giving up much Wizards got Antawn Jamison without giving up much Wizards got Caron Butler without giving up much Sacramento got Mike Bibby without giving up much As usual you have no idea what you are talking about. [Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-23-2007 11:20 AM] [Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-23-2007 3:42 PM] LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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Nalod
Posts: 72420 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
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TheGame
Posts: 26657 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
Posted by TrueBlue:Posted by nixluva: I agree that the cap limits us, but there are still opportunities out there to explore even in our current situation. Sign and trades are always possible and through such transactions, the salary cap becomes less of a factor. We have some assets in Frye, Nate, Collins, and Crawford. I exclude Lee and Balkman from this list because I would like us to keep them if at all possible. We can bring in some players this summer to get this team to the next level, we just need to be wise in who we get and how much we give to get them. Trust the Process
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Panos
Posts: 30702 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
Posted by nixluva: Nothing has changed? The only trades Isiah made were taking on massive amount of over bloated contracts. If that is to stop, it is a HUGE CHANGE from the Modus Operendi. BTW, NO ONE in the organization ever even SPOKE of getting under the cap until now. THey were saying that you don't get franchise caliber talent with free agent signings. Please stop your Pollyanna ramblings. |
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BlueSeats
Posts: 27272 Alba Posts: 41 Joined: 11/6/2005 Member: #1024 |
Posted by Panos:Posted by nixluva: Precisely. Plus, it's really not until 2010 that we'd have cap space and that requires that we wouldn't resign some of the very youth Gruenwald says they're building around. Here's a little challenge: what team in the league doesn't have capspace available 4 years from now in 2010? And nixluva, we all know that the day we trade for some overpriced "stud" or project that remotely fills a need you'll tell us how you knew it was part of the plan all along and capspace was never relevant for this team. |
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nyk4ever
Posts: 41014 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
Posted by BlueSeats: It's all part of the plan Blue! "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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islesfan
Posts: 9999 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 7/19/2004 Member: #712 |
It's all about buying time with Isiah. He bought enough time with Dolan to get a nice big extension. Now he needs to buy time with the Knicks dwindling fan base.
Isiah can see fans getting restless again and with their schedule it'll only get worse. He also knows that they're locked in with this group of players and that chances of some drastic improvement in the next 2 years is minimal. So he keeps selling 2-3 years down the road. We're now up to years 6 and 7, with another plan and strategy that should have been obvious (and was to some of us) from the start. If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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Panos
Posts: 30702 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
Yes, everything is part of the plan. The plan is wide open.
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