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playa2
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3/22/2007  10:02 PM
it's time for the knicks to trade some of the young talent for a stud.

Not somebody who's injury prone and they must play in the front court.

This is why I wanted this team to lose , but Isiah and his ego just gave away our #1 in this deep draft.

Brandon Roy would be an awesome 2 guard in NY, I would take Aldridge over frye all day long

We have to trade young talent or Lose to get a can't miss player in the draft, the role player syndrome has played out zeke!

This team as is is gutless outside of A.D.D

NATE

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NYKniCksFan87
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3/22/2007  10:03 PM
the same ppl who complain about nate should realize besides him and lee no one on this team seems to care...im talkin rotation players
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playa2
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3/22/2007  10:27 PM
This is why the experiment is ova, time to snatch somebody's stud for some youngin role players.

This has to be Isiah's plan if he wants to succeed in NY.

YOU CAN'T WIN CONSISTENTLY WITH ROLE PLAYERS WITH NO HEART IN THE NBA.
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3/22/2007  10:29 PM
Threads like these can really go somewhere if the person who started had the balls to be specific.

What young players should go? Start naming them.
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3/22/2007  10:34 PM
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

the same ppl who complain about nate should realize besides him and lee no one on this team seems to care...im talkin rotation players

hey you forgot Balkman. he had a total brainfart on defense tonight but most nights he's spot on with the D. and none of us question his effort
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3/23/2007  6:12 AM
Technically balkman isn't in the rotation yet.

Frye is the loser that should be gone. He could blow up on another team and that's fine. The bulls have up on countless talent yet they are a winning team now. So has the clipps. Thing is, life goes on. The knicks have a foundation but it has to be built on correctly.

The decision to have curry be the man down low has been made. Lee has outplayed everyone and has the respect of his peers around the league. Time to start the guy. Isiah said himself that when they play balkman big minutes he usually has a double double. So what's the ****in problem? Isiah tried to bury craw but craw has proved he is needed and he is the knicks main cog on offense and the difference between winning and losing in a lot of games. Nate is ready to at least over take francis perminantly when craw comes back.

This is the knicks foundation and it is a good one. The knicks now need to find a way to get a guy that can bring what Q brings without a cronic health condition. The knicks need some muscle behind lee and a shot blocker behind curry. Marbury also could use an apprentice/eventual replacement. Knicks also need a shooting guard.

Its plain as day. All we can do is hope isiah and company is looking with their eyes wide open not shut.

[Edited by - enyspree on 23-03-2007 06:25 AM]
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3/23/2007  6:30 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Threads like these can really go somewhere if the person who started had the balls to be specific.

What young players should go? Start naming them.

I would get rid of Frye Nate and crawford AND Curry for a stud front court player snf "real two way 2 guard..

If crawford is gone curry is no use to the knicks since he can't perform with out him.

Isiah is gonna have to be like a jim paxson, just because you drafted a guy doesn't mean he's a permanant fixture on your roster.

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3/23/2007  10:25 AM
Eddy Curry SUCKS! Its that simple we should't have to cater to this fat bum, he needs his own pg in jamal, he needs a shooter so he is not double teamed, he needs a defensive minded player next to him because he doesn't try. Isiah is such a joke i can't stand it and some of you people actually buy into the guy....

outside of balkman and lee there is nothing to be excited about on this team. Nate is not well liked by his teammates and no matter how well he played last night we need to move him crawford, frye and start to actually build a team, instead of talking about progress when this team has 30 wins, we are close to being one of the worst teams in the league and everyone has a good chance to improve below us with cap space and lottery picks
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3/23/2007  12:50 PM
Posted by MS:

Eddy Curry SUCKS! Its that simple we should't have to cater to this fat bum, he needs his own pg in jamal, he needs a shooter so he is not double teamed, he needs a defensive minded player next to him because he doesn't try. Isiah is such a joke i can't stand it and some of you people actually buy into the guy....

outside of balkman and lee there is nothing to be excited about on this team. Nate is not well liked by his teammates and no matter how well he played last night we need to move him crawford, frye and start to actually build a team, instead of talking about progress when this team has 30 wins, we are close to being one of the worst teams in the league and everyone has a good chance to improve below us with cap space and lottery picks


So why are koolaid refugees trying to give IV's to the haters to drink.

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3/23/2007  12:53 PM
Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

the same ppl who complain about nate should realize besides him and lee no one on this team seems to care...im talkin rotation players

Yes. I will give Nate that much. When he is in the game, he is playing to win and playing all out.
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3/23/2007  1:01 PM
IT might have to look himself hard in the mirror and trade Curry and Frye. I wonder would the Lakers be interested in a Curry and Frye for Bynum and Odom swap. I doubt it, but that might be the type of deal we need to do to get more defense in our frontcourt.

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3/23/2007  1:12 PM
Posted by TheGame:

IT might have to look himself hard in the mirror and trade Curry and Frye. I wonder would the Lakers be interested in a Curry and Frye for Bynum and Odom swap. I doubt it, but that might be the type of deal we need to do to get more defense in our frontcourt.

I think IT would trade either of those guys or anyone on the team if he thought the deal was good. Isiah is stone-cold.

The Lakers wouldn't do it. Also, Neither of those guys are particularly good defensive players. Bynum gets a couple of blocks but as you saw in the KNicks Vs. Lakers game, he is very foul prone and slow. He'll get better, but defense isn't his bag yet.

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3/23/2007  1:17 PM
Isiah only trades with conference rivals
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3/23/2007  1:34 PM
Frye, Nate, Eddy, Jamal for KG

Then turn around and trade KG for some young talent and start rebuilding we have three guys that can be apart of a championship one day Lee, Balkman, Collins
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3/23/2007  1:36 PM
Deng/Ty Thomas for KG let the Bulls win a championship and Build a high octaine tandem up front

Lee/Balkman/Thomas
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3/23/2007  1:48 PM
Posted by TheGame:

IT might have to look himself hard in the mirror and trade Curry and Frye. I wonder would the Lakers be interested in a Curry and Frye for Bynum and Odom swap. I doubt it, but that might be the type of deal we need to do to get more defense in our frontcourt.

Good idea Game, it's definitely something that Isiah, woops I mean Grunwald , should be looking into. I would pull the trigger on that trade in an instant. Of course the Lakers current draft pick in addition would be nice.
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3/23/2007  3:02 PM
Its clear the Knicks need a stud. They'll have a better chance of finding one with these rather than Dolan and Isiah...
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3/24/2007  8:04 PM
For some reason I feel the player (some) don't want to play here , or they don't like playing with Marbury.

We all thought the chemistry issue was because of LB,Steph is still here and he claims the team is not on the same page.


We haven't been all on the same page, one game, yet, Marbury said. We're making a conscious effort of getting Eddy the ball right now and we're doing that."





[Edited by - playa2 on 24-03-2007 20:06]
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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3/24/2007  8:11 PM
Posted by playa2:

For some reason I feel the player (some) don't want to play here , or they don't like playing with Marbury.

We all thought the chemistry issue was because of LB,Steph is still here and he claims the team is not on the same page.


We haven't been all on the same page, one game, yet, Marbury said. We're making a conscious effort of getting Eddy the ball right now and we're doing that."





[Edited by - playa2 on 24-03-2007 20:06]

Got a link to that article?
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3/24/2007  8:21 PM
I like channing frye, but his lapses in defense are basically killing us. Also, francis has no concept of TEAM defense as well.

What if we traded Frye (give up on the offensive experiment) and Francis (crawford and Nate more than make up for him) and send them to New Orleans for Chandler and Bobby Jackson?
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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