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BRIGGS
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3/18/2007  8:00 PM
C-Curry
F-Frye
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G Marbury
C-Sean Williams
F David Lee
F Jefferies
G Qrich/Morris Almond
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Nate Malik Jerome James

Pick 22 Morris Almond
Pick 27 buy from Phoenix Sean Williams C

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Ira
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3/18/2007  8:54 PM
Nice thought, but there's one doubt that I can't get around. I know nbadraft.net and maybe some other draft sites has Almond lasting that long, but I can't believe so many nba gm's will be that stupid. He's too good to go that late.
BigSm00th
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3/18/2007  11:25 PM
well we get briggs' point, a shooting guard who can keep defenses honest with curry and a shot blocker to help the interior defense.

give me sean williams or give me death. he seems like a player isiah would like.
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3/18/2007  11:30 PM
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3/18/2007  11:50 PM
lasme is pretty undersized, I wouldn't use a first rounder on him because i don't think he'll be that good in the NBA. williams has talent but is a total headcase, he might make this team implode - they are barely a cohesive unit as it is. derrick byars has been pretty impressive in the tournament, he's got nice range and could turn into a solid 3 to spread the floor, keep in mind he had a big game against one of the best team defenses in the country in washington state.
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nyk4ever
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3/19/2007  12:02 AM
Posted by nyballer:

lasme is pretty undersized, I wouldn't use a first rounder on him because i don't think he'll be that good in the NBA. williams has talent but is a total headcase, he might make this team implode - they are barely a cohesive unit as it is. derrick byars has been pretty impressive in the tournament, he's got nice range and could turn into a solid 3 to spread the floor, keep in mind he had a big game against one of the best team defenses in the country in washington state.
I agree about not drafting Lasme with the Bulls pick but if we can somehow obtain another pick late in the 1st round, I would definitely use it on Lasme. The guy has alot of the same attributes as Balkman but he plays a little bit bigger than Balkman does.

'pretty undersized?' Lasme is 6'8 and athletic as hell. Josh Smith, Elton Brand, Ben Wallace are all 6'8 and all average over 2 blocks a game. Just like the guys I mentioned, Lasme plays bigger than his listed his height and his height number has absolutely nothing to do with shotblocking as long as you are athletic enough to block the shots and Lasme has proved that. Sure Lasme plays in the A10 but he averaged 5 blocks a game(over the season) and heres what he did against the bigger schools on the schedule(including A10 teams that made the NCAA tourney.)
Pitt - 2 blocks
BC - 3 blocks
Louisville - 3 blocks
Kentucky - 5 blocks
GW - 11 blocks
Xavier - 2 blocks
Alabama - 9 blocks
West Virginia - 3 blocks

Thats 38 blocks in 8 games.

This guy just knows how to block shots and if we were able to draft him and throw him out there with Lee and Balkman and you got mayhem on the court for the other team.
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3/19/2007  12:28 AM
I expect alot of these in the tourney to run to the draft. I am not sure about Almond being there. I think Thomas needs to find a way to get SG/SF guy with real ability. I am sure Fernandez will be there if he stays in and they need to find a way to get Williams. The guy has so much upside but could easily turn to the JJ side.
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3/19/2007  12:53 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nyballer:

lasme is pretty undersized, I wouldn't use a first rounder on him because i don't think he'll be that good in the NBA. williams has talent but is a total headcase, he might make this team implode - they are barely a cohesive unit as it is. derrick byars has been pretty impressive in the tournament, he's got nice range and could turn into a solid 3 to spread the floor, keep in mind he had a big game against one of the best team defenses in the country in washington state.
I agree about not drafting Lasme with the Bulls pick but if we can somehow obtain another pick late in the 1st round, I would definitely use it on Lasme. The guy has alot of the same attributes as Balkman but he plays a little bit bigger than Balkman does.

'pretty undersized?' Lasme is 6'8 and athletic as hell. Josh Smith, Elton Brand, Ben Wallace are all 6'8 and all average over 2 blocks a game. Just like the guys I mentioned, Lasme plays bigger than his listed his height and his height number has absolutely nothing to do with shotblocking as long as you are athletic enough to block the shots and Lasme has proved that. Sure Lasme plays in the A10 but he averaged 5 blocks a game(over the season) and heres what he did against the bigger schools on the schedule(including A10 teams that made the NCAA tourney.)
Pitt - 2 blocks
BC - 3 blocks
Louisville - 3 blocks
Kentucky - 5 blocks
GW - 11 blocks
Xavier - 2 blocks
Alabama - 9 blocks
West Virginia - 3 blocks

Thats 38 blocks in 8 games.

This guy just knows how to block shots and if we were able to draft him and throw him out there with Lee and Balkman and you got mayhem on the court for the other team.

i still think he's a tweener. he's 220 lbs...elton brand is 255, wallace is 6-9 240. also keep in mind lasme is 25. if he can turn into a josh smith type player that'd be great, but i dont know if hes quick enough to be a SF. he's definitely athletic and quick, but hes quick for a PF. considering hes not a scorer, if he's not quicker than most SF's in the NBA then a) he wont be as good a defender in the league and b) he will be another black hole on offense. I'd rather draft a backup center/legit PF that can block shots with a late pick, and try to get a guy that can shoot the ball to play the 3. if he can turn into josh smith, then he'd be great for the team, but smith is more of a pure SF, while i think lasme will translate to a david lee type-tweener, without the rebounding instincts.
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3/19/2007  6:28 AM
even if lasme does block shots the knicks have enough perimeter players and far too few big men who can defend. sean williams is needed simply to cover up for the blob (curry) and the perimeter D sucking b/c he can play on the block and swat shots from the outside and when curry gets torched.
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3/19/2007  7:52 AM
C-Curry
F-Frye
F-Balkman
G Crawford
G Marbury
C-Sean Williams
F David Lee
F Jefferies
G Qrich/Morris Almond
PG Steve Francis Mardy Collins
Injury Depth players
Nate Malik Jerome James
I hope that doesn't mean you're playing Frye ahead of Lee!
Nalod
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3/19/2007  9:27 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
C-Curry
F-Frye
F-Balkman
G Crawford
G Marbury
C-Sean Williams
F David Lee
F Jefferies
G Qrich/Morris Almond
PG Steve Francis Mardy Collins
Injury Depth players
Nate Malik Jerome James
I hope that doesn't mean you're playing Frye ahead of Lee!


Whats with the blow hole?

Frye, Curry and an energy player up front makes sense. A front line of Frye, Balkman and Lee could work too in spurts.

I see Briggs point if he got Frye starting. He is 6-11 and can hit the midrange jumper real well.

If Lee can take 2000 jumpers a day off season and create his own shot he should start.

Remember, its not who starts but the minutes.
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3/19/2007  10:01 AM
I just think Lee is a lot better than Frye in all major areas of the game, including scoring.
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3/19/2007  10:08 AM
if you can buy a pick- I would look to either package both picks to move up, or, I would try to trade some of our ok talent (Frye, JJ & pick) to get back a more complete player.

With the raptors game- I think its evident that both Frye & JJ can play- its just that they need minutes to be effective and with Lee, there isn't room. Package & upgrade.

We've got 10 really ok/good players- the problem is you can only put five on the court at any one time.
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3/19/2007  10:13 AM
WHat Happened to Herbert Hill BRiggs????
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3/19/2007  10:13 AM
JJ can't play even with minutes, frye on the other hand...
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3/19/2007  10:41 AM
all we need are a couple pieces - a shotblocker & a perimeter defending G who can hit an open jumper.

Sean Williams & whoever else can fill the second hole, & the future all of a sudden looks a lot brighter.
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3/19/2007  10:42 AM
Bah, I guess I'm all alone on Lasme

Good points nyballer, he's certainly no sure-thing, but damn, I'd love to bring him in here and see how it works out.
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BRIGGS
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3/19/2007  10:46 AM
Posted by Anji:

WHat Happened to Herbert Hill BRiggs????

We have to put stock into Channing Frye--we already invested alot in him. We need a back up C more than a PF--one who is athletic and can block shots. I think Williams is the best candidate at 6-10 1/2 for the pro game. Herbet Hill is going to be a steal player--like a david west---but I think some teams will realize this and he will go in the 18-23 range like west did. I dont think we can afford to pass up on a solid 2 guard prospect--and I do believe with the payroll oming down that IT will have 2mm at his disposel to buy one of the picks from Pheonix. I think he must know that JJ is not a viable back up and that we are short if one guy goes down.
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3/19/2007  10:47 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Bah, I guess I'm all alone on Lasme

sorry bro, i'd comment but i've never seen the kid play... if he's got the shotblocking skills that S. Will does, then bring him on.
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BRIGGS
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3/19/2007  10:49 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Bah, I guess I'm all alone on Lasme

Good points nyballer, he's certainly no sure-thing, but damn, I'd love to bring him in here and see how it works out.

I like Lasme too. Lasme will sneak into round 1 imho. I just don't think at his size that he represents something we need--we could use a taller player--but ya never know--he certainly wouldnt be a disaster pick.
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