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djsunyc
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3/15/2007  1:53 PM
Bulls To Promote Thomas?
15th March, 2007 - 11:21 am
Chicago Tribune -

Scott Skiles said before Wednesday's game that rookie forward Tyrus Thomas could begin to start down the stretch.

That move would come at the expense of veteran P.J. Brown, Thomas' closest friend on the Bulls. The two recently spent an off day together in Orlando along with family members.

"I've created a monster," Brown said facetiously. "This young guy is about ready to take over. But that's good. We're going to need him if we're going to make a run."
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3/15/2007  1:55 PM
Skiles said Thomas, while still dealing with maintaining his focus that may not be evident to the casual fan, has improved dramatically in this department even since Christmas.

"He has earned more playing time," Skiles said. "I'm excited for him because I've seen a lot of progress.

"I know it's easy to look at two or three games and say, 'He could've been doing this all along. Why weren't they playing him?' I would counter that by saying that's a valid point. And another valid point may be that he's being brought along in just the right time."
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3/15/2007  2:33 PM
No big deal TITS commits 6tos can't get any garbage points and isiah wants to develop another all-star besides curry, we are playing in june, dolan is happy we are in a great spot.
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3/15/2007  2:36 PM
LA 14pts 10rbs 3blks against the pistons

I love the fact that we need a pg that can get him the ball
A PF to make up for his awful defense
A shooter to compliment the double teams

I have never seen one player need so much in my life to be effective, and TT is 19 and jumping into the starting lineup on a playoff team
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3/15/2007  2:40 PM
Ty Thomas has had one 20 pt game this year... think i'll wait before i jump on this kid's bandwagon.
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3/15/2007  2:41 PM
hinrich
gordon
deng
pj brown
ben wallace

that team is 10-3 since the all star break and 12 games over .500.

tj
parker
garbjosa
bosh
rasho

that team is 23-11 since january 1st.

yet we can't escape this win one/lose one pattern for 3 1/2 months now.
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3/15/2007  2:44 PM
Posted by MS:

LA 14pts 10rbs 3blks against the pistons

I love the fact that we need a pg that can get him the ball
A PF to make up for his awful defense
A shooter to compliment the double teams

I have never seen one player need so much in my life to be effective, and TT is 19 and jumping into the starting lineup on a playoff team

Seriously, Curry can only be effective under the most optimal conditions.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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3/15/2007  2:44 PM
not jumping on anyone but eddy is lost without jamal who kills the team and doesn't produce wins, and eddy has been very bad on one end of the floor which tt will never be i don't care what he produces i think at worst you play the kid minutes and he stays out of foul trouble

lee numbers plus 3blks
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3/15/2007  2:47 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

hinrich
gordon
deng
pj brown
ben wallace

that team is 10-3 since the all star break and 12 games over .500.

tj
parker
garbjosa
bosh
rasho

that team is 23-11 since january 1st.

yet we can't escape this win one/lose one pattern for 3 1/2 months now.

And both teams are still younger and more athletic than the Knicks.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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3/15/2007  2:47 PM
Posted by TMS:

Ty Thomas has had one 20 pt game this year... think i'll wait before i jump on this kid's bandwagon.

Channing has had 3.

Channing has also had 2 games of double digit rebounds. TT has had 2.

TT blocks 1.1 per game, 0.7 for Channing in double the minutes.

I am jumping off of one bandwagon for sure.
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3/15/2007  2:48 PM
Posted by TMS:

Ty Thomas has had one 20 pt game this year... think i'll wait before i jump on this kid's bandwagon.

but the 19 year old project, who is being brought along slowly, has had FIVE 3 block games, and one 4 and 5 block games as well. he's also had TWO 10 rebound games.

no bandwagon jumping required...but this is something to build with.
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3/15/2007  2:49 PM
Does anyone realize how bad isiah has ****ed this franchise

Q is never going to be healthy and can't be moved, our other sf we signed can't be moved and he sucks

PG, PG
SF, SF
PF
C

Thats disgrace that the position lineup can't be moved for anything, cheers to a 7-8th seed at best. Do you realize the magic have lody 12 of 16 and the pacers have lost 11 in a row and we are still not in the playoffs
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3/15/2007  3:00 PM
Someone explain to me how this deserves an extension

Bulls-Managed to pawn off the most erractic player in the NBA by making isiah believe they would match his offer, and in turn got him to take 21 million owed to JYD
-Got Two lottery picks for a a player they weren't going to sign, we couldn't offer lottery protection on the pick but Paxson would have settled for the 30th selection in the draft to wave that? Sounds curious

Wizards-Were not going to give a half dimensional player 30 million, but isiah felt the need to offer a trade kicker?

Suns
-Wanted to start over and rebuild, but isiah felt the need to take 45 million on in penny and still give them 4 draft picks to get a player that never won a playoff series
-Traded for a player with a back injury that will keep him out of action for 1/4 of his career games, but since we new this isiah called the 28 million still owed for the 21st pick in the draft?

Spurs
-Major cap relief and an important center expiring from his contract helping to lead them to a championship Isiah decided taking 33 million in guarenteed money was worth the 29th 30th pick in the draft

Sonics
-While no one in the league showed interest Isiah gives out 30 million to a center with a history of laziness and bad work ethic, when the player we need Reggie Evans signs for under 2 million

Magic
-Isiah decideds taking on a player making 14, 15, 16, million and a known chemistry killer is worth the headache he has given every organization he has ever played for, giving a conference rival cap relief and a small foward for the future
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3/15/2007  3:04 PM
Posted by MS:

Someone explain to me how this deserves an extension

Bulls-Managed to pawn off the most erractic player in the NBA by making isiah believe they would match his offer, and in turn got him to take 21 million owed to JYD
-Got Two lottery picks for a a player they weren't going to sign, we couldn't offer lottery protection on the pick but Paxson would have settled for the 30th selection in the draft to wave that? Sounds curious

Wizards-Were not going to give a half dimensional player 30 million, but isiah felt the need to offer a trade kicker?

Suns
-Wanted to start over and rebuild, but isiah felt the need to take 45 million on in penny and still give them 4 draft picks to get a player that never won a playoff series
-Traded for a player with a back injury that will keep him out of action for 1/4 of his career games, but since we new this isiah called the 28 million still owed for the 21st pick in the draft?

Spurs
-Major cap relief and an important center expiring from his contract helping to lead them to a championship Isiah decided taking 33 million in guarenteed money was worth the 29th 30th pick in the draft

Sonics
-While no one in the league showed interest Isiah gives out 30 million to a center with a history of laziness and bad work ethic, when the player we need Reggie Evans signs for under 2 million

Magic
-Isiah decideds taking on a player making 14, 15, 16, million and a known chemistry killer is worth the headache he has given every organization he has ever played for, giving a conference rival cap relief and a small foward for the future

wow, never read it that way.
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3/15/2007  3:07 PM
Posted by MS:

Someone explain to me how this deserves an extension

Bulls-Managed to pawn off the most erractic player in the NBA by making isiah believe they would match his offer, and in turn got him to take 21 million owed to JYD
-Got Two lottery picks for a a player they weren't going to sign, we couldn't offer lottery protection on the pick but Paxson would have settled for the 30th selection in the draft to wave that? Sounds curious

Wizards-Were not going to give a half dimensional player 30 million, but isiah felt the need to offer a trade kicker?

Suns
-Wanted to start over and rebuild, but isiah felt the need to take 45 million on in penny and still give them 4 draft picks to get a player that never won a playoff series
-Traded for a player with a back injury that will keep him out of action for 1/4 of his career games, but since we new this isiah called the 28 million still owed for the 21st pick in the draft?

Spurs
-Major cap relief and an important center expiring from his contract helping to lead them to a championship Isiah decided taking 33 million in guarenteed money was worth the 29th 30th pick in the draft

Sonics
-While no one in the league showed interest Isiah gives out 30 million to a center with a history of laziness and bad work ethic, when the player we need Reggie Evans signs for under 2 million

Magic
-Isiah decideds taking on a player making 14, 15, 16, million and a known chemistry killer is worth the headache he has given every organization he has ever played for, giving a conference rival cap relief and a small foward for the future

Rumor has it that this wasn't on the piece of paper that Dolan was reading from talking to beat reporters about Isiah's extension.
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3/15/2007  3:10 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by MS:

Someone explain to me how this deserves an extension

Bulls-Managed to pawn off the most erractic player in the NBA by making isiah believe they would match his offer, and in turn got him to take 21 million owed to JYD
-Got Two lottery picks for a a player they weren't going to sign, we couldn't offer lottery protection on the pick but Paxson would have settled for the 30th selection in the draft to wave that? Sounds curious

Wizards-Were not going to give a half dimensional player 30 million, but isiah felt the need to offer a trade kicker?

Suns
-Wanted to start over and rebuild, but isiah felt the need to take 45 million on in penny and still give them 4 draft picks to get a player that never won a playoff series
-Traded for a player with a back injury that will keep him out of action for 1/4 of his career games, but since we new this isiah called the 28 million still owed for the 21st pick in the draft?

Spurs
-Major cap relief and an important center expiring from his contract helping to lead them to a championship Isiah decided taking 33 million in guarenteed money was worth the 29th 30th pick in the draft

Sonics
-While no one in the league showed interest Isiah gives out 30 million to a center with a history of laziness and bad work ethic, when the player we need Reggie Evans signs for under 2 million

Magic
-Isiah decideds taking on a player making 14, 15, 16, million and a known chemistry killer is worth the headache he has given every organization he has ever played for, giving a conference rival cap relief and a small foward for the future

wow, never read it that way.

Same here. It does look bad.


[Edited by - bigbeast on 03-15-2007 3:11 PM]
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3/15/2007  3:18 PM
MS everything is accurate with exception the Wizards were offering Jeffries slightly below the MLE to avoid the Luxury Tax($65mil). It was something like 5yrs $28mil. The main point was they were'nt going to match being that they could go over to retain him. Then you left out the fact they replaced him with a better player at 1/5 the cost in DeShawn.


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3/15/2007  3:21 PM
Posted by MS:

Someone explain to me how this deserves an extension

Bulls-Managed to pawn off the most erractic player in the NBA by making isiah believe they would match his offer, and in turn got him to take 21 million owed to JYD
-Got Two lottery picks for a a player they weren't going to sign, we couldn't offer lottery protection on the pick but Paxson would have settled for the 30th selection in the draft to wave that? Sounds curious

Wizards-Were not going to give a half dimensional player 30 million, but isiah felt the need to offer a trade kicker?

Suns
-Wanted to start over and rebuild, but isiah felt the need to take 45 million on in penny and still give them 4 draft picks to get a player that never won a playoff series
-Traded for a player with a back injury that will keep him out of action for 1/4 of his career games, but since we new this isiah called the 28 million still owed for the 21st pick in the draft?

Spurs
-Major cap relief and an important center expiring from his contract helping to lead them to a championship Isiah decided taking 33 million in guarenteed money was worth the 29th 30th pick in the draft

Sonics
-While no one in the league showed interest Isiah gives out 30 million to a center with a history of laziness and bad work ethic, when the player we need Reggie Evans signs for under 2 million

Magic
-Isiah decideds taking on a player making 14, 15, 16, million and a known chemistry killer is worth the headache he has given every organization he has ever played for, giving a conference rival cap relief and a small foward for the future

Wow. You just killed him. Great post.
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3/15/2007  3:34 PM
Thank you and do you realize if we never made that deal for ariza and just drafted balkman, we could have given money to stevenson on the cheap, just look at this briefly

Under 2 million and in the rotation
Stevenson, Collins, Lee, Balkman, Ariza

Marbury/Collins
Stevenson/Crawford
Ariza/Balkman
Lee/Rose
Curry/Frye

injured: q

Being a NBA general manager isn't that hard you just need to be patient can you imagine if we just made those two cost effective signings, that serious future on both ends of the floor and then those that love crawford could be plugged in as the pg when steph leaves. A solid defensive minded unit of athletes and you have room to fill in, and the luxury of dealing frye and nate.

Outside of basketball

Anucha
-isn't proven yet, but sexually harrassed a garden employee, while treating her with no respect leaving her to deal with marburys thug cousins that were hired thanks to isiah thomas and his relationship with Marbury

Chaney
-Undermined him publically on David Letterman, and had him usered out of the garden, and didn't take the time to explain the situation to him, like a man

Lenny
-Went against Lenny's advise and chose talent over cohesive play and team ball, getting rid of Van Horn Because he had a problem with marbury, till this day marbury has never had the same chemistry he had with Doleac and KVH
-Fired his top assistant going into the season opener undermining him publically

Larry
-As much as Larry was at fault Isiah didn't make any public remarks, allowing the players to mail in the season

Financially he has lost this organization 200 million in four seasons, and that maybe generous
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3/15/2007  3:41 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by TMS:

Ty Thomas has had one 20 pt game this year... think i'll wait before i jump on this kid's bandwagon.

Channing has had 3.

Channing has also had 2 games of double digit rebounds. TT has had 2.

TT blocks 1.1 per game, 0.7 for Channing in double the minutes.

I am jumping off of one bandwagon for sure.

i'm not defending Channing... he's been a bust so far his 2nd year, but even he had a rookie season miles ahead of what Ty Thomas has had so far this season... so i'm not going crazy over him until he proves he can put up #'s over a longer stretch than a couple games.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-15-2007 3:42 PM]
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