Early during the game yesterday when the gaurds were having a difficult time getting EY the ball it led to a heated exchange between EY and Francis. There was a play middle of the second qrt, where Steve had the ball on the weak side with EY posting and he failed to get him the ball because he was doing his Rucker Park/Harlem Globe Trotter one-on-one break his defenders ankles dribbling missing EY in the post. EY got in his face and went Ape on Steve. Steve didn't back down to him and gave him some words of his own. I was trying to read Steve's lips and I know for a fact he told EY to STFU and I think he may have said some personal derogatory remark at EY before he inbouned the ball.

I find it very interesting how mad EY gets when he can't get his offense going but doesn't show anything close to the same kind of intensity defensively, wether he or his teammates blow assignments. That's an ultimate red flag EY is a 1 dimensional player mentally and physically. I love his 6reb total yesterday in 41min of play with Lee out, Q hurt early, Balkman only playing 15min, Channing only playing 13min and Malik Rose playing a moderate 24min. The reason Curry didn't get his rebounds is because his teammates take all of them away from him according to his cheerleaders.(rolling eyes)

On top of their sub zero BB IQ it's no wonder Steve and Steph ball hog away from him. Curry is a fat, lazy, selfish, teammate to play with, who feels he's entitled to be served.






[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-15-2007 11:28 AM]

I swear fishmike and trueblue.. not the same guy

My son and I saw that, and my son is a francis fan

he read his lips and steve said " Stop whining for the F**king ball".....

LOL..

Posted by tkf:

My son and I saw that, and my son is a francis fan

he read his lips and steve said " Stop whining for the F**king ball".....

LOL..

I knew he droped an F-BOMB on him, and he said something else to him.

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by franco12:

curry might not know how to pass out of a double team, play defense, grab rebounds or block shots, BUT

Francis and Marbury can't make an entry pass to save their lives.

I really don't understand it. It is a simply post entry pass. How can these guys be PGs for years and not know how to do it. Our offensive spacing is off, our post entry passes our slow, and our passes around the perimeter after Curry passes out of the post are even slower. Until we fix these problems, our offense will continue to have problems.

I guess that little detail slipped past Isiah's incredible ability to evaluate talent

It's not always that they don't know how to pass the ball, it's the fact that they can see the eyes of the defender and they can see the rest fo the floor and Curry can't. He thinks he's open and set, but he doesn't see what they see. The angle on TV is not the same as it looks on the floor. Curry can also make it easier by doing a better job of sealing off his man. He just leans into them but they're still able to move around him just enough to be able to reach in and tip the ball.

I think Isiah needs to work on different ways of getting him the ball. Not always just strict back to the basket post up. MIX IT UP! So that teams can't just run at him so easily. Our offfense is just too predictable and easy to defend and Isiah has to adjust and give the team something else.
Clyde was saying how Steph and Curry need to work together more and really polish their 2 man game. Right now it doesn't look like they have any chemistry together. That's one problem of leaving that up to Jamal. It's clear Steph and Curry don't have the same rapport. Francis is even worse. All that dribbling is crazy. Then he ends up turning it over anyway.

Posted by nixluva:

It's not always that they don't know how to pass the ball, it's the fact that they can see the eyes of the defender and they can see the rest fo the floor and Curry can't. He thinks he's open and set, but he doesn't see what they see. The angle on TV is not the same as it looks on the floor. Curry can also make it easier by doing a better job of sealing off his man. He just leans into them but they're still able to move around him just enough to be able to reach in and tip the ball.

I think Isiah needs to work on different ways of getting him the ball. Not always just strict back to the basket post up. MIX IT UP! So that teams can't just run at him so easily. Our offfense is just too predictable and easy to defend and Isiah has to adjust and give the team something else.
Clyde was saying how Steph and Curry need to work together more and really polish their 2 man game. Right now it doesn't look like they have any chemistry together. That's one problem of leaving that up to Jamal. It's clear Steph and Curry don't have the same rapport. Francis is even worse. All that dribbling is crazy. Then he ends up turning it over anyway.

Well it has been mentioned they don't work on double teams in practice but since so much progress has been made it's probably not necessary.

As far as Curry and Steph goes it's two egos trying be the Da Man. Bewteen Marbury's sexy 3's and Curry's sexy bulldozing this team has championship written all over it.

I have no problem with Steph jacking the ball up. He is replacing Crawford and we need someone in the backcourt getting it done and he is the best at the task. But Stevie seems to be only suited for an offense where he can get his own points

Knicks’ Loss To Raptors Touches Curry.
Star-Ledger
03-15-07
By David Waldstein

Long after the game, a dejected Eddy Curry sat glumly at his locker, still wearing his uniform, text-messaging his absent friend and confidant Jamal Crawford.

Ever since Crawford was injured seven games ago, Curry has been without his personal assist man and sounding board after games -- especially for times like these, when the frustration bubbles over.

Last night, during the Knicks' 104-94 loss to the Toronto Raptors, Curry was visibly upset at how few times he touched the ball, and how many times his teammates didn't pass it to him when he felt he was open in front of the basket.

At one point, after the whistle had blown in the second quarter, Curry held out his hands to Steve Francis and yelled over the crowd noise, "I'm open."

"I know it's not personal," Curry said. "I'm not mad. At the time I'm mad, but after the game I realize what's going on and I'm not mad about the situation. I just want to win."

Curry, who had 13 points and six rebounds, took nine shots in the game, only three in the second half, and none in the fourth quarter.

What had to make it even more difficult was seeing Raptors point guard T.J. Ford play the role of textbook distributor to a team of deft outside shooters. Ford handed out a career high-tying 18 assists to go along with 18 points as the Raptors beat the Knicks for the second time this season, and the fifth time in the last six meetings over two seasons.

With the loss, the sloppy Knicks, who turned the ball over 20 times, remained in ninth place in the Eastern Conference standings, 6 1/2 games behind first-place Toronto in the Atlantic Division standings, with 18 games remaining.

Stephon Marbury scored 31 points for his fourth 30-point effort in the last five games, and handed out nine assists while trying to lead the Knicks to their second straight road triumph. But he didn't get the help that Ford did as Chris Bosh scored 18 of his 22 points in the second half, Jorge Garbajosa scored 20, and last summer's top pick in the draft, Italian rookie Andrea Bargnani, pitched in 18.

All of those Toronto players had more shots than Curry, the player the Knicks offense is supposed to run through. Isiah Thomas said he wants to see Curry touch the ball every time down the court.

"We've got to get a little more stubborn and a little bit more patient about making sure we put the ball in his hands," he said.

Curry said that while he feels like he's open, the guards keep telling him that he's covered from behind, and that's why they aren't getting to him as much as he would like.

"It's tough because from my point of view it seems like I'm open a lot," Curry said. "But I'm not the guard, so I can't see what it is. I know it's not personal. I know if it's up to them they'd give me the ball every time. I just have to be mindful that they're trying to do what's best for the team."

Francis, who had 17 points on 7-for-12 shooting, took responsibility for the loss because of his seven turnovers, including four in the final 12 minutes. Ironically, he said the problem was trying to force the ball inside, rather than not seeing Curry.

"I take the blame for this," he said. "I turned the ball entirely too much at the end, trying to force the ball inside. I was thinking there was something there, and obviously there wasn't...Just bad decisions."

Curry wasn't the only player Francis heard from on the court. He was the target of several frustrated exchanges with Marbury and Isiah Thomas, who at one point yelled out to Francis, "Trust me."

Thomas has said that he is learning to trust Francis as he learns how to coach him, but it is clear that all the games won't be as triumphant as last Saturday when Francis beat the Wizards with a buzzer-beating 3-pointer.

"This really is like his third game back," Marbury said. "Once he understands on the court, exactly what we're doing, I think it will be fine. It was tough tonight, as a group, but this game is over with. Now we have to get ready for New Orleans."


[Edited by - queeniepop on 03-15-2007 12:50 PM]

if curry can't seal soft azz Barnani and garbajosa then it is his fault why he can't get the ball, how many times last night the pass goes in and the defender knocks the ball out of curry hands as he flails around like a beached whale...

i agree about him not getting angry about his own defense, but he had a reason to be mad last night... Francis looked him off about 5 times while Curry was trying to get position down low in the 1st half... Isiah even said himself the team started to get away from the type of basketball he wanted them to play (going through Curry down low), so it's not just Curry who was probably angry over it... Francis has been a freelancer ever since he started playing again... i don't see him playing within the flow of the offense much, & he passes up open teammates in transition in favor of getting off his own shot... i remember last night he had Marbury & Jefferies in transition on a 3 on 2 break, & instead of passing it off to the wing, he drove straight into Bosh who drew an offensive foul... Marbury threw up his hands like "WTF was that?"... so it's not all on Curry here... Francis needs to play w/in the team concept.