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kam77
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3/13/2007  11:28 AM
Does anyone here know what the difference was between curry's ailment and allen's? I'm curious why the Bulls did not treat allen as they did curry. So naturally I assume there's a medical explanation this article isn't giving. Any heart doctors here?

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In light of the Eddy Curry saga, the Chicago Bulls were going to be careful with Malik Allen's heart-related health scare.

Allen underwent a stress test on Monday and, according to a Chicago Tribune report, was cleared by Bulls team physicians to play on Tuesday night against the Boston Celtics.

Allen told the paper he experienced atrial fibrillation while sitting on the bench during a game Thursday in Orlando. He spent Thursday night in an Orlando hospital and after his heart regained a normal rhythm returned to Chicago for testing on Friday.

"I'm going to do shootaround [on Tuesday], which I think will be fine," Allen told the Tribune. "After that, hopefully I'll be able to suit up. But the doctors said I'm cleared."

Allen's plans would be derailed only if he experiences a recurrence of his previous symptoms.

While on the Bulls, Curry experienced an irregular heartbeat and missed the final 13 regular-season games and playoffs in 2005. Although doctors cleared the center to play, the team pressed for genetic testing to determine the extent of the problem. Curry and the union protested, prompting the team to trade him to the New York Knicks.


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3/13/2007  11:30 AM
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3/13/2007  11:31 AM
Posted by kam77:

Does anyone here know what the difference was between curry's ailment and allen's? I'm curious why the Bulls did not treat allen as they did curry. So naturally I assume there's a medical explanation this article isn't giving. Any heart doctors here?

ESPN.com news services

In light of the Eddy Curry saga, the Chicago Bulls were going to be careful with Malik Allen's heart-related health scare.

Allen underwent a stress test on Monday and, according to a Chicago Tribune report, was cleared by Bulls team physicians to play on Tuesday night against the Boston Celtics.

Allen told the paper he experienced atrial fibrillation while sitting on the bench during a game Thursday in Orlando. He spent Thursday night in an Orlando hospital and after his heart regained a normal rhythm returned to Chicago for testing on Friday.

"I'm going to do shootaround [on Tuesday], which I think will be fine," Allen told the Tribune. "After that, hopefully I'll be able to suit up. But the doctors said I'm cleared."

Allen's plans would be derailed only if he experiences a recurrence of his previous symptoms.

While on the Bulls, Curry experienced an irregular heartbeat and missed the final 13 regular-season games and playoffs in 2005. Although doctors cleared the center to play, the team pressed for genetic testing to determine the extent of the problem. Curry and the union protested, prompting the team to trade him to the New York Knicks.



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kam77
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3/13/2007  11:34 AM
So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?
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3/13/2007  11:38 AM
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?

As we tried to tell all the EY LOVERS the Bulls never really wanted him. I hope SugarRayRichardson is lurking, he needs to read this piece of information more than anyone.
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3/13/2007  11:38 AM
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?

this had NOTHING to do with paxson. the guy was damn near heartbroken when he had to trade him. the money/dna issue was with reinsdorf, not paxson.
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3/13/2007  11:38 AM
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?

Your logic amazes me.
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3/13/2007  2:04 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?
Your logic amazes me.
It wasn't kam77's logic. djsu said the decision to get the genetic test etc done was to protect a $50 million investment. That means what they said about protecting his health was bs.
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3/13/2007  2:10 PM
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?

but i don't think it's BS b/c they were about to give him $20 mil to stay home.
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3/13/2007  2:11 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?
but i don't think it's BS b/c they were about to give him $20 mil to stay home.
Wasn't the $20 million spread out over 50 years? If I am an athlete and feel I can play and make more money, I'll call their bs too.
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3/13/2007  2:14 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?
but i don't think it's BS b/c they were about to give him $20 mil to stay home.
Wasn't the $20 million spread out over 50 years? If I am an athlete and feel I can play and make more money, I'll call their bs too.

that's not the point. $20 mil is $20 mil. you don't give that kind of money if you don't care about somebody. jwill destroyed his career on a bike. the contract could've been voided. but the bulls paid him a couple of mil regardless.
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3/13/2007  2:19 PM
Nah, there's no doubt that the dna testing demand was all a ploy to get Eddy to take a pay cut. That's a fact.

Paxson took a chance that no other team would be willing to take a chance on him and he was right (one out of 34 times). Isiah, the overspender called his bluff and the rest is history

Eddy was feeling like a piece of spoilled meat and was unwilling to allow Paxson smooth things over with him (Jamal in his ear didn't help Paxson either).

That's why that Beatch was crying. Paxson felt like he was in a game of high stakes poker and Isiah caught him with his pants down.
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3/13/2007  2:25 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Nah, there's no doubt that the dna testing demand was all a ploy to get Eddy to take a pay cut. That's a fact.

Paxson took a chance that no other team would be willing to take a chance on him and he was right (one out of 34 times). Isiah, the overspender called his bluff and the rest is history

Eddy was feeling like a piece of spoilled meat and was unwilling to allow Paxson smooth things over with him (Jamal in his ear didn't help Paxson either).

That's why that Beatch was crying. Paxson felt like he was in a game of high stakes poker and Isiah caught him with his pants down.

hold on one sec. eddy is not the innocent little lamb here. there was pretty heavy speculation that he took ephedra and showed up in shape (possibly stacker2 induced) in a contract season. the guy had to be shut down b/c of an irregular heartbeat.

what if the bulls doctors found ephedra in his blood but didn't release that to the public to protect eddy? but they wanted to make sure it was the ephedra and not something more...something that was in his family's history? so instead of giving him market value (which they then gave chandler after they traded eddy proving they weren't cheap), they asked him for a dna test. was it a ploy? i'm not so sure b/c all eddy had to do was take the test. but he felt there was a risk involved (and by he, i'm also including his agent) that could potentially HURT his payday. so chicago was being smart business wise and eddy was protecting his own finacial prospects.

there ain't no BS here. no organization offers $20 mil to a guy that will never play for them. it was $20 mil to STAY HOME...not play. what kind of paycut is that? that's called free money.

but isiah came into the picture. he was willing to give up the money (the one advantage of this organization). he did his due dilligence medically (at least we hope so) and chicago got the best deal they could get for him. nobody LOST here. especially not eddy b/c he got a $60 mil payday.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-13-2007 2:26 PM]
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3/13/2007  2:26 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Nah, there's no doubt that the dna testing demand was all a ploy to get Eddy to take a pay cut. That's a fact.

Paxson took a chance that no other team would be willing to take a chance on him and he was right (one out of 34 times). Isiah, the overspender called his bluff and the rest is history

Eddy was feeling like a piece of spoilled meat and was unwilling to allow Paxson smooth things over with him (Jamal in his ear didn't help Paxson either).

That's why that Beatch was crying. Paxson felt like he was in a game of high stakes poker and Isiah caught him with his pants down.

And to really give it to paxon, we gave him 2 unprotected first round picks- the first that ended up as a #2 overall pick- yeah, we sure screwed paxson.
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3/13/2007  3:01 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Nah, there's no doubt that the dna testing demand was all a ploy to get Eddy to take a pay cut. That's a fact.

Paxson took a chance that no other team would be willing to take a chance on him and he was right (one out of 34 times). Isiah, the overspender called his bluff and the rest is history

Eddy was feeling like a piece of spoilled meat and was unwilling to allow Paxson smooth things over with him (Jamal in his ear didn't help Paxson either).

That's why that Beatch was crying. Paxson felt like he was in a game of high stakes poker and Isiah caught him with his pants down.

And to really give it to paxon, we gave him 2 unprotected first round picks- the first that ended up as a #2 overall pick- yeah, we sure screwed paxson.

Well I said that's how "Paxson felt". There's no question that Paxson was distraught over it...aka Crying like a Beatch.

Moreover, it's silly to rake the coals until this years draft (right now the Knicks are ahead).

One thing however that is certainly not irrelevant is the big belly laugh i'm getting with all the squirming going on over Isiah getting his extension (despite all the various miscues he's made with the Knicks)

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3/13/2007  3:12 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Nah, there's no doubt that the dna testing demand was all a ploy to get Eddy to take a pay cut. That's a fact.

Paxson took a chance that no other team would be willing to take a chance on him and he was right (one out of 34 times). Isiah, the overspender called his bluff and the rest is history

Eddy was feeling like a piece of spoilled meat and was unwilling to allow Paxson smooth things over with him (Jamal in his ear didn't help Paxson either).

That's why that Beatch was crying. Paxson felt like he was in a game of high stakes poker and Isiah caught him with his pants down.

hold on one sec. eddy is not the innocent little lamb here. there was pretty heavy speculation that he took ephedra and showed up in shape (possibly stacker2 induced) in a contract season. the guy had to be shut down b/c of an irregular heartbeat.

what if the bulls doctors found ephedra in his blood but didn't release that to the public to protect eddy? but they wanted to make sure it was the ephedra and not something more...something that was in his family's history? so instead of giving him market value (which they then gave chandler after they traded eddy proving they weren't cheap), they asked him for a dna test. was it a ploy? i'm not so sure b/c all eddy had to do was take the test. but he felt there was a risk involved (and by he, i'm also including his agent) that could potentially HURT his payday. so chicago was being smart business wise and eddy was protecting his own finacial prospects.

there ain't no BS here. no organization offers $20 mil to a guy that will never play for them. it was $20 mil to STAY HOME...not play. what kind of paycut is that? that's called free money.

but isiah came into the picture. he was willing to give up the money (the one advantage of this organization). he did his due dilligence medically (at least we hope so) and chicago got the best deal they could get for him. nobody LOST here. especially not eddy b/c he got a $60 mil payday.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03-13-2007 2:26 PM]

You didn't see any statements from me insinuating that Eddy was some kind of "Innocent Lamb" in this situation. Eddy was very aware that they were trying to get him to take a major pay cut by insulting his intelligence. He was many times more aware than the Bulls that there was a possibility of dropping dead. Plus, innocent lambs don't take ephedren or whatever else he may have taken. He knew the reperussions. This fella is an adult. Not lazy, not fat, not Ronald McDonald's step child. An adult.

In fact Chicago couldn't patch things back up with him because they insulted his intelligence.

Finally, all of this talk about doctors finding a drug in his blood and not disclosing it to the public is pointless.

Bottom line, Isiah called his bluff and because Eddy wasn't hearing it he ended up with us.

I'll let other's debate the pros and cons of the picks. I will however continue to get a big laugh from all of the squirming.

Just to think, Isiah's gonna be with the Knicks for atleast another 4 to 5 years. How can you stand living?
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3/13/2007  3:41 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?

but i don't think it's BS b/c they were about to give him $20 mil to stay home.

Then i'll ask it again, why aren't they this concerned with Malik Allen?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/13/2007  3:52 PM
Eddy took supplements to get his weight down according to members of the bulls who resented eddys work ethic and love for the game, they thought he was lazy and only played for the money. He came into camp once in his entire career in shape and it was during his contract year, and he was considerably skinnier.

And Paxson managed to unload eddy, jamal, and jerome williams contract on the knicks, and since unloading crawford the returned to the playoffs three consectutive years after not making it since jordan retired??????

Here come the lovers telling me i have no concrete evidence about eddy taking ephedra to get his body in shape like its ****ing cocaine or some crazy illegal drug. A friend of mines happens to be good friends with deng who mentioned that eddy lost the weight by taking these supplements. I think Paxson was concerned about eddy lack of passion and drive and didn't want to pay him....
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3/13/2007  3:59 PM
Oh, there's no question that Eddy took something to drop the weight. Also, are any of these players that commented on Eddys work ethic on the current playoff bound Bulls team?
That still doesn't mean the Bulls weren't trying to sucker Eddy believing that his heart issue was reason to sign with them on the cheap (this is a fact).

Paxson bluffed. Isiah called him on it and then Paxson whined like a BEATCH! On flippin TV.

There was no smoothing things over with Eddy and the rest is history.

Now of course he used that as motivation to get as much as he could out of Isiah and the Knicks.

[Edited by - Junkmein on 03-13-2007 4:01 PM]
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3/13/2007  4:44 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by kam77:

So if that is the reason, and it sounds like it is, then everything Paxson said about protecting Eddy Curry's health was.... bull****?

but i don't think it's BS b/c they were about to give him $20 mil to stay home.

Then i'll ask it again, why aren't they this concerned with Malik Allen?

well without all the medical info, i don't know how we can make a judgement one way or the other. we have no idea if this is the same case or not.
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