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BigSm00th
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3/4/2007  9:47 AM
i understand jared jeffries got all this money dropped on him this summer but balkman is the better option at small forward at this point.

here are the last 5 games balkman has played DOUBLE DIGIT minutes:
3/3: 12 points (5/6 FG), 13 rebounds, 38 minutes.
2/21: 13 points (6/7 FG), 7 rebounds, 24 minutes.
2/14: 13 points (6/11 FG), 7 rebounds, 4 steals, 25 minutes.
1/28: 12 points (6/8 FG), 8 rebounds (5 offensive), 4 steals, 2 blocks, 19 minutes.
1/26: 10 points (4/6 FG), 8 rebounds, 14 minutes.

i mean how is isiah justifying this at this point? this guy rebounds the ball, plays hard, doesn't need shots b/c he scores at an amazingly high percentage, makes noise on defense. jeffries is horrible, i'm sick of looking at this guy's "25 min., 1-3, 3 rebounds, 2 points, 4 PF" give me a break at this point.

if anything isiah should play balkman just to silence all of the critics who ROUNDLY criticized this pick (greg anthony, jay bilas, basically every beat writer, etc etc). clearly the guy can play, doing exactly what isiah said he would (play with a lot of energy, scores without being a major focus on the offense).

enough is enough down with jared jeffries. give balkman at least 20 minutes a game.
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3/4/2007  10:00 AM
IT drafted Balkman to do exactly what he is doing. However, Jeffries became available and IT had doubts in trusting a rookie to play a major role on the team. So he signed Jeffries in the hopes that he would be doing the things that Balkman is doing now. The problem is, Balkman is even better than IT thought he would be and is a better player than Jeffries. But I think IT has to give Jeffries some minutes. Balkman is a rookie and Jeffries deserves a chance to pull his game together. Jeffries is playing better lately and has had a positive effect on the game. Both of them cannot shot, but Balkman has the quickness and coordination to score without shooting. Jeffries does not have that ability and will have to work on his jumpshot this summer if he plans to continue to have a role on this team. His jumper has been falling a little better lately, so it is clear he is working on that aspect of his game.

That being said, Balkman should be getting close to 20 minutes a game. No more DNPs or 2-3 minute games.

[Edited by - thegame on 03-04-2007 10:02 AM]

[Edited by - thegame on 03-04-2007 10:07 AM]
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3/4/2007  10:21 AM
Jeffries defense as been pretty good. I want to see how Jeffries comes back next season before I make my assessment. Balkman right now is playing like Lee without the big dunks.
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3/5/2007  12:55 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

i understand jared jeffries got all this money dropped on him this summer but balkman is the better option at small forward at this point.

here are the last 5 games balkman has played DOUBLE DIGIT minutes:
3/3: 12 points (5/6 FG), 13 rebounds, 38 minutes.
2/21: 13 points (6/7 FG), 7 rebounds, 24 minutes.
2/14: 13 points (6/11 FG), 7 rebounds, 4 steals, 25 minutes.
1/28: 12 points (6/8 FG), 8 rebounds (5 offensive), 4 steals, 2 blocks, 19 minutes.
1/26: 10 points (4/6 FG), 8 rebounds, 14 minutes.

i mean how is isiah justifying this at this point? this guy rebounds the ball, plays hard, doesn't need shots b/c he scores at an amazingly high percentage, makes noise on defense. jeffries is horrible, i'm sick of looking at this guy's "25 min., 1-3, 3 rebounds, 2 points, 4 PF" give me a break at this point.

if anything isiah should play balkman just to silence all of the critics who ROUNDLY criticized this pick (greg anthony, jay bilas, basically every beat writer, etc etc). clearly the guy can play, doing exactly what isiah said he would (play with a lot of energy, scores without being a major focus on the offense).

enough is enough down with jared jeffries. give balkman at least 20 minutes a game.

i've said if you gave Balkman starting minutes right now he could easily be a 13 & 7 player, & those stats show it's not an unrealistic projection... this kid gets everything off his hustle alone... imagine if he ever develops a midrange jumper... completely agree, we need to get him more minutes.
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3/5/2007  1:07 PM
I agree- Balkman should be getting play at the 2 & SF position- Jeffries should be relegated to the 4&5, and perhaps situational @ the 3.

Balkman is still learning the game and savvy vets will make he pay on the defensive end.
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3/5/2007  3:43 PM
He actually reminds me a bit of Josh Howard.


Wish he shot better though.
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3/5/2007  3:48 PM
This is precisely why isiah is a terrible coach, you don't give players minutes that you sign just because.......

You need to earn your spot out there with your play, jefferies is one of the worst players in the entire league, no joking. His defense is suspect, he is weak and can't finish, he is also not mentally tough.

Balkman does a little bit of everything, and we have lost games this season because of isiahs inability to realize that anytime you put lee and balkman on the floor the other team rarely gets a rebound and our energy level goes through the roof......

Isiah compounds any good move he makes with an absolute terrible one........

Drafting Ariza giving us a nice young kid to develop.....trades him for francis
Drafts a young backup center......signs Jerome James
Gets a nice high energy difference maker......signs jared jefferies

Meanwhile Kurt Thomas is expiring this season, and we have Q who i love but its realistic to think he plays 60 games the rest of his career and is injured to get an undersized shooting guard.......

If he would just relax and not panic he would be doing a good job, but he can't sit still and just coach as a coach. He coaching based on lottery selections and salary and his rep as a talent guy, its disgusting
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3/5/2007  4:07 PM
This is precisely why isiah is a terrible coach, you don't give players minutes that you sign just because......
I think it's more an indication of why you shouldn't have the same GM and coach
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3/5/2007  4:19 PM
MS - do you think Isiah is accountable to Dolan for placing he best product onthe floor, via trades and the draft, to keep the Knicks profitable...

or do you really believe he knows less about basketball than you do?
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3/5/2007  4:20 PM
>>I think it's more an indication of why you shouldn't have the same GM and coach

Bonn - you mean like Red Auerbach?

and he didn't have single assistant coach. Not one.
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3/5/2007  4:38 PM
Posted by misterearl:

>>I think it's more an indication of why you shouldn't have the same GM and coach

Bonn - you mean like Red Auerbach?

and he didn't have single assistant coach. Not one.

Great comparison Earl, you are absolutely on fire today. I mean Red Auerbach wasn't an absolute coaching legend or anything.
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3/5/2007  4:43 PM
Posted by misterearl:

MS - do you think Isiah is accountable to Dolan for placing he best product onthe floor, via trades and the draft, to keep the Knicks profitable...

or do you really believe he knows less about basketball than you do?

I'll take this one. Isiah knows less about basketball than me.
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3/5/2007  4:51 PM
Ok earl you are by far the least informed fan i have ever come across....

Dolan has a huge problem keeping this team profitable, the team is located in the corporate capital of the world, 60% of the area is going to be sold out no matter what happens because of its location, and they have put a terrible team on the floor for 7 season and still manage to make more than just about every team in the league.....

And I wouldn't have signed any of his midlevel people, and i would have drafted Bynum/Granger/Warrick over him, and must admit didn't watch lee so i would have taken blacte instead who is going to be a very good player.

I also would have never traded for Crawford or did the q deal even though i love the guys heart. Nor would I have put the fate of the franchise in eddy currys hands.....

So if your going to use your head instead of try to do things without thinking i think i could have put a team on the floor the past few years that could have been very similiar without blowing all future cap space
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3/5/2007  4:56 PM
i remember the tip to start the OT where Isiah told Francis to shoot to a particular location on the floor when the ref tossed it & it ended up resulting in an easy layup right after... Francis gave Isiah props for calling it... i think after a HOF career in the NBA, that Isiah sorta knows a thing or 2 about basketball... hate him for his personnel decisions if you like, but to challenge his knowledge of the game is just idiotic.
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3/5/2007  5:05 PM
I really don't think so; knowing how to play the game i am not debating, giving players insight i am not questioning, showing players the right thing to do on the court obviously he can do that.

But assembling a team for this city i think i could do the same if not better, while not crippling the cap. Isiah doesn't know what he is doing when he steps off the court is not an idiotic statement, he has proven to be less than stellar.
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3/5/2007  5:18 PM
like i just said (apparently you didn't get the point), you can challenge his personnel choices, but you can't question his knowledge of the game itself... he probably knows more about basketball than everyone on this board combined.
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3/5/2007  5:24 PM
i did get the point, i just don't see if he know so much about basketball why he brings in guys like

mo taylor, tim thomas, steve francis, jalen rose, jerome james, jared jefferies

or commits big dollars to crawford, takes a chance on someone with a bad back that insurance companies won't go near, channing french frye? guards that give themselves their own nicknames

Gets fleeced in every single deal

Part of knowing the game is knowing what works, what wins, etc and he hasn't shown that he knows anything to this point

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3/5/2007  5:50 PM
Isiah knows less about the West Side of Chicago than me.
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3/6/2007  4:01 AM
isn't isiah from the south side?

regardless, jeffires has had way too much time to showcase what he can do (or can't do, rather).

its time to give balkman at least half of his minutes, and if jeffries can't improve, give them all to balkman.

its jeffries who should be getting the DNP-CD's and the sporadic action, not balkman.
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3/6/2007  11:17 AM
Posted by BigSm00th:

isn't isiah from the south side?

Isiah is a goober. Can't prove me wrong now, eh?

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