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EnySpree
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3/1/2007  10:01 AM
Just read it one of the papers and then saw it on real GM.

Seriously. Anybody think about the impact this really has? The guys look for Craw to make something happen. He's a big part of the team and the future of the team.

I got my beef with craws game but I also understand that Craw is kind of a leader on this team. Everyone says Q cuz that's everyones pet. Nah man its Craw.

I don't think the knicks should trade Craw now. These guys are tight. Isiah has to be careful not to break it up. He's got to continue to get players that fit into the mold of these guys.

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3/1/2007  10:03 AM
As might as well just admit that the roster is entirely f'd up if its a $130 mil roster that is entirely dependent on a poor defensive 39% shooter
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3/1/2007  10:03 AM
He cried because now he is going to have to take the deciding shots at the end of games.
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3/1/2007  10:05 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Just read it one of the papers and then saw it on real GM.

Seriously. Anybody think about the impact this really has? The guys look for Craw to make something happen. He's a big part of the team and the future of the team.

I got my beef with craws game but I also understand that Craw is kind of a leader on this team. Everyone says Q cuz that's everyones pet. Nah man its Craw.

I don't think the knicks should trade Craw now. These guys are tight. Isiah has to be careful not to break it up. He's got to continue to get players that fit into the mold of these guys.

it's tough, though. trading craw would break up whatever chemistry this team has... but that chemistry is only making us a sub-.500 team.

crawford's probably my favorite knick and i'd lvoe to keep him around. but just because he and steph and curry have chemistry doesn't mean it would necessarily be a bad thing to break it up to take us to another level.
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3/1/2007  10:07 AM
He cried? because Crawford will miss the remaining games? He cried because of that? Come on Steph!
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3/1/2007  10:07 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

As might as well just admit that the roster is entirely f'd up if its a $130 mil roster that is entirely dependent on a poor defensive 39% shooter

i thought the point of all these comments from the team was that jamal's role on the team is more than just a shooter, the team counts on him for more than just that 39% of his Js...
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3/1/2007  10:21 AM
Posted by Masterplan:
Posted by Bonn1997:

As might as well just admit that the roster is entirely f'd up if its a $130 mil roster that is entirely dependent on a poor defensive 39% shooter

i thought the point of all these comments from the team was that jamal's role on the team is more than just a shooter, the team counts on him for more than just that 39% of his Js...

I think you're missing the bigger picture. No well run organization would spend $130 mil and be in a position where they're this dependent on a player of Jamal Crawford's calibre.
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3/1/2007  10:22 AM
Who says we're trading Jamal???? I do not think that's in the cards. I believe that JC will be a Knick when he comes back. I think alot of people undervalue him on the team. Maybe he is not the greatest defender or shoots at the highest clip, but he has won several games for us and he obviously is very-well liked in the locker room and has garnered a ton of respect from his teammates. DOLAN even made the trip to show support.

Sometimes guys bring intangibles and a forms of leadership that are not necessarily defined by percentages. Evidently, Jamal is a "silent" partner in making this team function. He is not as focused on like Marbury or Curry in the media. (oh and maybe if Isiah started JC all year, you'd all call him an over 40% shooter because when he starts, he shoots 42%).

I think that Crawford's injury is going to show his value to the TEAM. Not to you, as fans and what YOU think we should do, but in respect to the TEAM and ITS MEMBERS.

Hey isnt this something that's good? That someone like Steph feels so strongly about one of his teammates or that Curry (who is not going anywhere), whose best friend is Jamal, loves playing with the guy who gets him the ball the most and recognizes the chemistry he has with him. I don't think these are necessarily bad things. Maybe all the people that question Crawford's role can understand that he may actually bring something that's not statistically-based. Its not that difficult to understand.

I just think that if Jamal is that valued by his team, they should play hard for him (as motivation) and rally around this situation and get in to the playoffs so he can come back and play WITH them again.
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3/1/2007  10:22 AM
Posted by Andrew:

He cried because now he is going to have to take the deciding shots at the end of games.

i think that has a lot to do with it... Jamal took so much pressure off Marbury to make those big shots down the stretch... Marbury's hit some big shots this season, don't get me wrong, but he also doesn't have to face the pressure of being that go-to guy down the stretch because every team knows Jamal is the guy on this team.

i also think these guys are tight too like someone else mentioned... i'm sure he felt bad that his running mate was gone now.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-01-2007 10:23 AM]
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3/1/2007  10:24 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Masterplan:
Posted by Bonn1997:

As might as well just admit that the roster is entirely f'd up if its a $130 mil roster that is entirely dependent on a poor defensive 39% shooter

i thought the point of all these comments from the team was that jamal's role on the team is more than just a shooter, the team counts on him for more than just that 39% of his Js...

I think you're missing the bigger picture. No well run organization would spend $130 mil and be in a position where they're this dependent on a player of Jamal Crawford's calibre.

Bonn, i don't think anyone here is under the illusion that this organization is well run.
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3/1/2007  10:26 AM
Bonn...relatively speaking, Jamal makes $7.5M of that $130M...that a spit in the bucket for this organization. Here's a percentage for you. 5.7%.

...Represents the salary that Jamal makes of your grand total. Since you like percentages and all.

[Edited by - queeniepop on 03-01-2007 10:27 AM]
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3/1/2007  10:37 AM
Can we PLEASE stop with this 130 mil crap. You know full well that that number is inflated with players who aren't here anymore. The money that we're spending right now is irrelevent to the conversation. Steph and Jamal have been together the longest on this team. They share the backcourt. I find it funny that so many wanted to lable Steph as this guy that is aloof and doesn't care and no one on the team likes him. Well it turns out that most of that is GARBAGE! He busted his ass last night trying to help this team win. He was defending and trying to get everyone involved and then he tried to give us the scoring we need. WHAT THE HELL ESLE CAN HE DO? When are some of you gonna start to give the guy a freakin BREAK? I can guarantee you that if he had not suffered this Knee problem, he'd be even more effective and this team when healthy would be a LOT more potent.

I've never seen so many people who have such low regard for the players on the team that they supposedly love. Steph has shown a lot of passion for this team and wanting to help it win. He's upset that the teams chances of making it took a big hit and that doesn't catch your attention? That he felt so deeply about it that he broke down? Man I don't know what to say about this. I'm actually disappointed that there aren't more positive responses to this.
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3/1/2007  10:40 AM
I don't think he cried, I think he wet his pants.
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3/1/2007  10:47 AM
Posted by nixluva:

Can we PLEASE stop with this 130 mil crap. You know full well that that number is inflated with players who aren't here anymore. The money that we're spending right now is irrelevent to the conversation. Steph and Jamal have been together the longest on this team. They share the backcourt. I find it funny that so many wanted to lable Steph as this guy that is aloof and doesn't care and no one on the team likes him. Well it turns out that most of that is GARBAGE! He busted his ass last night trying to help this team win. He was defending and trying to get everyone involved and then he tried to give us the scoring we need. WHAT THE HELL ESLE CAN HE DO? When are some of you gonna start to give the guy a freakin BREAK? I can guarantee you that if he had not suffered this Knee problem, he'd be even more effective and this team when healthy would be a LOT more potent.

I've never seen so many people who have such low regard for the players on the team that they supposedly love. Steph has shown a lot of passion for this team and wanting to help it win. He's upset that the teams chances of making it took a big hit and that doesn't catch your attention? That he felt so deeply about it that he broke down? Man I don't know what to say about this. I'm actually disappointed that there aren't more positive responses to this.

Would you like us to have a conversation about how many tears were shed? Please man.
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3/1/2007  10:48 AM
I didn't realize Craw was such an influence in the locker room. That is a good thing. If Craw learns to D up at at least an average level, he would be very formidable as a PG, and a future Captain. Yes, I still believe Craw is a PG because the different mindsets required for each position have a large impact on the way Jamal plays the game when he is in each respective position.

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3/1/2007  11:01 AM
Yes, I still believe Craw is a PG

ur one of the few around here that agrees w/me on that one... he's had 3 double digit assist games this season & he has a great chemistry w/Curry... if we made him the primary orchestrator i think he could do a good job, but as long as Marbury's here, that won't happen... for his part, i think Marbs has done a good job this season playing defense & team oriented ball, so i can't get on him too much, but i think Jamal could become a star if he were given that role on a full time basis.
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3/1/2007  11:05 AM
Hey man, even Jesus wept.
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3/1/2007  11:09 AM
Wow Marb cried. Obviously the guy cares about winning. Now maybe this can put to rest the theory that basketball is just a "hobby" to him.
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3/1/2007  11:10 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Masterplan:
Posted by Bonn1997:

As might as well just admit that the roster is entirely f'd up if its a $130 mil roster that is entirely dependent on a poor defensive 39% shooter

i thought the point of all these comments from the team was that jamal's role on the team is more than just a shooter, the team counts on him for more than just that 39% of his Js...

I think you're missing the bigger picture. No well run organization would spend $130 mil and be in a position where they're this dependent on a player of Jamal Crawford's calibre.

i feel like you're harping on this 39% number, though. all kinds of teams- good and bad- have intangibles or glue players they rely on. a lot of them are undertalented, not guys you think have that much positive impact, not the team's star or whatever. i'm not saying jamal is an elite glue guy or anything. i feel like he's somewhere between that glue and star level in terms of impact. a team being dependent on on a non-superstar player isn't necessarily a poorly run one.
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3/1/2007  11:10 AM
Posted by bigbeast:

Wow Marb cried. Obviously the guy cares about winning. Now maybe this can put to rest the theory that basketball is just a "hobby" to him.

Trekkies cried when Star Trek was cancelled....
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Marbs cried for a minute after he got the Craw news

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