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When your bigs can't stop Nochbar and Moore
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Bonn1997
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2/25/2007  8:11 PM
it's sad
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2/25/2007  8:15 PM
Fuckin Mickey Moore
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2/25/2007  8:20 PM
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2/25/2007  8:24 PM
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.
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2/25/2007  8:24 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?
Bonn1997
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2/25/2007  8:34 PM
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Lee's great at a lot of things but he's no defensive stopper. He definitely couldn't guard both Moore and Nochbar simultaneously!
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2/25/2007  8:35 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Lee's great at a lot of things but he's no defensive stopper. He definitely couldn't guard both Moore and Nochbar simultaneously!

He can defend them. Plus, his offensive boards mean less second shots for the opposition.
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2/25/2007  8:41 PM
No, I literally mean he can't defend both at once. BOTH of them hurt us. I do think the Knicks would have squeezed out a win with Lee. But this is a bad Nets team that good teams should destroy, not just squeeze out a win or actually lose to.
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2/25/2007  8:48 PM
Moore and Nachbar hurt the Knicks but it was not because they are stars all of a sudden, it was because the Knicks could not stop Carter. Those guys are decent players but the story of the night was Carter. He took control. Just like when Jamal is unconscious, except better of course. The Knicks made errors yes, maybe they got hosed a little, they got dunked on by Nachbar (By the way, he does that a lot) but the fact was Carter was in the zone.

I did see some nice things from the Knicks, and when Lee gets back tomorrow, if they play the same way on offense they should be able to beat Miami.

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2/25/2007  8:49 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?


Start listing the players on the Nets who are better than the Knicks 1-12. You might trade starters with them when healthy but the bench of the Knicks have a huge advantage by a wide margin.


I mean good grief the Nets were missing Nenad and Jefferson and still got handled by this team.

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2/25/2007  8:55 PM
i thought we should have doubled carter more, it would have left mikki moore and nachbar open but at least they'd be taking jumpers and give us a better shot at grabbing the rebound
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2/25/2007  8:55 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?


Start listing the players on the Nets who are better than the Knicks 1-12. You might trade starters with them when healthy but the bench of the Knicks have a huge advantage by a wide margin.


I mean good grief the Nets were missing Nenad and Jefferson and still got handled by this team.

It's not just quantity, but quality as well.

Kidd, Carter.

The Knicks have no answer for either one.

If they zone Curry, and Lee is out, it's pretty tough to win. Yet they still almost did.
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2/25/2007  9:02 PM
Posted by oohah:

Moore and Nachbar hurt the Knicks but it was not because they are stars all of a sudden, it was because the Knicks could not stop Carter. Those guys are decent players but the story of the night was Carter. He took control. Just like when Jamal is unconscious, except better of course. The Knicks made errors yes, maybe they got hosed a little, they got dunked on by Nachbar (By the way, he does that a lot) but the fact was Carter was in the zone.

I did see some nice things from the Knicks, and when Lee gets back tomorrow, if they play the same way on offense they should be able to beat Miami.

oohah
You have a good point about Carter being at least partly responsible for Nochbar's and Moore's pts.
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2/25/2007  9:03 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?


Start listing the players on the Nets who are better than the Knicks 1-12. You might trade starters with them when healthy but the bench of the Knicks have a huge advantage by a wide margin.


I mean good grief the Nets were missing Nenad and Jefferson and still got handled by this team.

It's not just quantity, but quality as well.

Kidd, Carter.

The Knicks have no answer for either one.

If they zone Curry, and Lee is out, it's pretty tough to win. Yet they still almost did.

2 players don't make a team just in case you have missed it. The Nets lost like 5gms in a row with those 2 anchoring their team. You used the word DEEP and when you say that it means you take the sum of their parts. They were missing Kristic and Jefferson today which is the equivalent of missing Lee and I guess Francis. So if you are saying this team without Lee is crippled, meanwhile the SNUBBED ALL-STAR Curry remains, what does that say about this team?
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2/25/2007  9:06 PM
I actually think the Nets are quite shallow. It's Kidd, Carter, RJ and a bunch of role players.
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2/25/2007  9:06 PM
we have nbdl talent, curry can't dominate if he is bodied up or denied the ball and can't create easy buckets for himself.

isiah sucks at bringing in good talent, all this talk about his drafting is such horse ****, Frye ****ing sucks, he is garbage and a huge *****, jason collins and moore took him out of his game, nate doesn't even play, jefferies just stinks and he played one of his better games with 8pts and 8rbs.....

if you like jamal u are a joke, seriously the guy sucks for half the season, and people like him because he plays a terrible game and hits a big shot every now and again.....he literally kills the team, another terrible move by isiah. And we have to watch vince abuse the team, when isiah should have got him in the first place, but was unwilling to part with crawford, thomas, or nazy.

We seriously have one person that creates his own shot on the floor, jamal and he misses half the time when he gets open. Isiah never makes the right subs, i would like to see nate out there a little more if crawford is going to get to play massive minutes. Seriously what does he do that nate doesn't?

This team has made little progress and isiah spent and lost almost 200 million in his tenure and all he really has to show is David Lee the best player on the team, its mind boggling isiah is going to be back, we have played teams shorthanded all season and can't win, in the worst eastern conference in years
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2/25/2007  9:08 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?


Start listing the players on the Nets who are better than the Knicks 1-12. You might trade starters with them when healthy but the bench of the Knicks have a huge advantage by a wide margin.


I mean good grief the Nets were missing Nenad and Jefferson and still got handled by this team.

It's not just quantity, but quality as well.

Kidd, Carter.

The Knicks have no answer for either one.

If they zone Curry, and Lee is out, it's pretty tough to win. Yet they still almost did.

2 players don't make a team just in case you have missed it. The Nets lost like 5gms in a row with those 2 anchoring their team. You used the word DEEP and when you say that it means you take the sum of their parts. They were missing Kristic and Jefferson today which is the equivalent of missing Lee and I guess Francis. So if you are saying this team without Lee is crippled, meanwhile the SNUBBED ALL-STAR Curry remains, what does that say about this team?

You lack a sense of history. One player has repeatedly changed the fortunes of teams.

That's what great players do.

In case you didn't know, tith Kristic and Jefferson, the Knicks can't compete with the Nets. That's why some predicted the Nets to get to the NBA finals.
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2/25/2007  9:15 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?


Start listing the players on the Nets who are better than the Knicks 1-12. You might trade starters with them when healthy but the bench of the Knicks have a huge advantage by a wide margin.


I mean good grief the Nets were missing Nenad and Jefferson and still got handled by this team.

It's not just quantity, but quality as well.

Kidd, Carter.

The Knicks have no answer for either one.

If they zone Curry, and Lee is out, it's pretty tough to win. Yet they still almost did.

2 players don't make a team just in case you have missed it. The Nets lost like 5gms in a row with those 2 anchoring their team. You used the word DEEP and when you say that it means you take the sum of their parts. They were missing Kristic and Jefferson today which is the equivalent of missing Lee and I guess Francis. So if you are saying this team without Lee is crippled, meanwhile the SNUBBED ALL-STAR Curry remains, what does that say about this team?

You lack a sense of history. One player has repeatedly changed the fortunes of teams.

That's what great players do.

In case you didn't know, tith Kristic and Jefferson, the Knicks can't compete with the Nets. That's why some predicted the Nets to get to the NBA finals.



LOL stop backpedaling and give up seriously.


You implied the Knicks lost today without Lee, then proceeded to say the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets. Only to then stick to 2 players as the reason why you made the statement. All you had to say was The Nets have Superstars or All-Stars and the Knicks don't. But the rosters as a whole talentwise/on paper the Knicks should be/are better. The Nets lost 5gms in a row at the beginning of the season to teams like Seattle, Portland, and Charlotte, that's when they were at full strength, how come our Knicks can't beat them at 65% strength admist a playoff race. Oh that's right because we don't have Lee right now. So once again what does that say about our team?

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 02-25-2007 8:22 PM]
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2/25/2007  9:23 PM
we need to get Ime Udoka back! jk
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2/25/2007  9:24 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Lee

Nets were and have been missing Kristic far longer than the Knicks have been missing Lee. That's not even remotely a good enough excuse.

In case you missed it, the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets.

What's your excuse for continually posting nonsense?


Start listing the players on the Nets who are better than the Knicks 1-12. You might trade starters with them when healthy but the bench of the Knicks have a huge advantage by a wide margin.


I mean good grief the Nets were missing Nenad and Jefferson and still got handled by this team.

It's not just quantity, but quality as well.

Kidd, Carter.

The Knicks have no answer for either one.

If they zone Curry, and Lee is out, it's pretty tough to win. Yet they still almost did.

2 players don't make a team just in case you have missed it. The Nets lost like 5gms in a row with those 2 anchoring their team. You used the word DEEP and when you say that it means you take the sum of their parts. They were missing Kristic and Jefferson today which is the equivalent of missing Lee and I guess Francis. So if you are saying this team without Lee is crippled, meanwhile the SNUBBED ALL-STAR Curry remains, what does that say about this team?

You lack a sense of history. One player has repeatedly changed the fortunes of teams.

That's what great players do.

In case you didn't know, tith Kristic and Jefferson, the Knicks can't compete with the Nets. That's why some predicted the Nets to get to the NBA finals.



LOL stop backpedaling and give up seriously. You implied the Knicks lost today without lee and then porceeded to say the Knicks aren't as deep as the Nets. Only to then stick to 2 players as the reason why you made the statement. All you had to say was The Nets have superstars or All-Stars and the Knicks don't. But the rosters as a whole talentwise/on paper the Knicks should be/are better. They lost 5gms in a row at the beginning of the season to teams like Seattle, Portland, and Charlotte, that's when they were at full strength, how come our Knicks can't beat them at 65% strength admist a playoff race. Oh that's right because we don't have Lee right now. So once again what does that say about our team?

WTF are you talking about.

The Nets have more quality depth.

Let me make it simple for you:

The Knicks have two quality players.

The Nets have four quality players.

The Nets two remaining quality players are better than the Knicks one remaining quality player, and they play positions at which the Knicks don't match up well.

If you need any more help, let me know.
When your bigs can't stop Nochbar and Moore

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