oh and heres the link about the Magic looking to trade his expiring
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/44643/20070210/no_interest_in_grant_hills_expiring_deal/

Grant Hill/Rights to Fran Vasquez
for
Channing Frye/Jamal Crawford/Malik Rose

Works under the cap. Gives the Magic a good scorer at SG in Crawford(something the Magic sorely lack, consistent scoring from the guards, Crawford might excel better in a structured offense like Brian Hill runs) and some offense from the PF in Frye.

Magic lineup turns into:
Nelson/Crawford/Turkoglu/Frye/Howard
Thats a tough team to beat, gives them a ton of depth on the bench, makes the Magic players in the Eastern Conference.

For the Knicks, whether we like it or not folks, this is still a rebuilding process. This trade gives the Knicks a little cap flexibility and allows them to get under the cap sooner than the summer of 08/09, going into next year, the cap number would be 69million, not great, but much more manageable than 86 million. Also this trade allows the Knicks to take a chance on a foreign player like Vasquez, who is supposedly good but didn't want to play for Orlando. The bright lights of NYC might just get him over here.

Curious to see your thoughts on the deal. I honestly don't think the Knicks are losing that much by making the deal. Crawford is woefully inconsistent and this trade allows to send him packing to a team that plays a structured offense and might get the best of him, along with Frye with a chance to expedite our cap process and add a player with some potential in the deal.



[Edited by - nyk4ever on 02-10-2007 3:15 PM]

no

Yes.

And would the Magic get rid of Hill when he makes the team play better and they can sign who ever they want in the offseason????? They have zero reason..........

i would trade crawford + quentin for hill's expiring.

Fran is another Fredrick Weiss, so forget about him coming over, Hill is just a shell of his self and injured although coming off the books, but then you look at the trade is the bottom line is we give away Frye and Craw for Hill's caproom contract and it will not put us below the cap so why bother ?? We also give up 2 scorers for nothing in return.

Plus we would end up tanking the season and the Bulls would then take our pick for sure !!! Then you would blame IT for such a BONEHEADED TRADE !!

So when do we start over ?? After next season because you have us giving away our lottery pick this year.

Don't believe the hype the negative posters project here. We will make the playoffs !!!

First off they would never trad ewith the Knicks and that would be a better deal for them than for the Knicks

Posted by NYKresurrection:

Plus we would end up tanking the season and the Bulls would then take our pick for sure !!! Then you would blame IT for such a BONEHEADED TRADE !!

This is the catch 22 that Isiah has us in with trading this pick with no protection.

Even if there was a way to do this deal and trade some talent for cap relief- we end up helping Chicago out.

I believe Fran is signed with his euro club past whatever time his rights are owned by the team taking his pick on- besides being weiss like- whether he is or isn't- I don't think he has any intention of coming here to the US.