When I keep hearing trade suggestions, I keep coming back to this player -Tyson Chandler. He's not KG or any of these other dream players I don't think we could ever get. But he does everything Curry doesn't/can't do well - rebound, block shots, rotate and hustle. Since Curry appears to be staying, and most of us agree that Frye can't start with Curry (due to their defensive deficiencies) - why not try to package him for a PF (not a SF) that does compliment Curry's game. I really think Chicago ran out of patience b/c they were trying to develop their entire frontline at the same time - something that usually results in slow results. They got frustrated and started rebuilding again. But who, more so than Chandler - compliments Curry's deficiencies? (And consider we could get the player). I'm ok with Frye being a quality back-up, but he probably would develop better elsewhere if his role on this team is on the 2nd unit. So, if NO would consider these deals - would it be worth it?

1)Frye, Nate, Crawford or Q.Rich,M.Rose and #1 (10-15 range) for Chandler, D.Mason and L.Johnson.

2)Frye, Francis and #1 (protected) for Chandler and D. Mason

Could Be
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Curry (James)
Chandler (Lee)
D.Mason (Balkman/Jeffries)
Q.Rich or Crawford (Francis)
Marbury (Collins)


We could also consider including Peja in a deal if his health improves. I would think this team would become more balanced and defensive. Giving up the #1 pick is tough, but otherwise we would have to hope that pick turns into a defensive player of Chandler's ability (we would be picking after 10 I think).

I don't think it would happen, but it's kind of funny that the perfect compliment to Curry right now would be Chandler. Chicago would be in much better shape if they'd just sat tight.

Curry
Chandler
Deng/Nocioni
Gordon
Hinrich

damn. that's a championship team in a few years.

Chandler has been a guy I have harped on for 4 years now, even when his progress appeared to stall at times. I'd give up Crawford, Frye and the Bulls pick this year for him. It wont be enough now, though.

I just don't think the Hornets are interested in trading Chandler. Why would they? He's putting up great numbers for them. Hilton Armstrong might be attainable though.

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by EnySpree:

If craw, frye and chicago's pick can't pull Tyson Chandler the knicks should just give up.

[Edited by - enyspree on 08-02-2007 11:38 PM]

Yeah, we'd have to look for other targets. At a glance, I'd say maybe one of the guys on Seattle - Sene or Petro - in terms of potential and attainability. Its tough to scout them, however, because they play limited miniutes.

Are you kidding me? Craw, frye and the Chicago pick is good enough to get Gasol or Jermaine Oneal in my opinion. If people think that's not even enough to get Tyson then what can the knicks get? Sene or petro? Or you double kidding me?

[Edited by - enyspree on 09-02-2007 12:07 AM]

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by EnySpree:

If craw, frye and chicago's pick can't pull Tyson Chandler the knicks should just give up.

[Edited by - enyspree on 08-02-2007 11:38 PM]

Yeah, we'd have to look for other targets. At a glance, I'd say maybe one of the guys on Seattle - Sene or Petro - in terms of potential and attainability. Its tough to scout them, however, because they play limited miniutes.

Are you kidding me? Craw, frye and the Chicago pick is good enough to get Gasol or Jermaine Oneal in my opinion. If people think that's not even enough to get Tyson then what can the knicks get? Sene or petro? Or you double kidding me?

[Edited by - enyspree on 09-02-2007 12:07 AM]

Chandler is top 5 in the league in rebounds. Out of the top 20 rebounders in the game, he is Top 2 in reb/minute. And he gets 1.8 blocks per game, which, of the 4 rebounders ahead of him, is worse than only Camby. Channing alone certainly doesn't stack up. A package of Crawford, Frye and a late pick, is really a jumble of ordinary parts, none of which are particularly impressive either offensively or defensively. Its unlikely that the cumulative talent in that package overrides the individual deficiencies of our players, who don't conform well to the standard roles of each position.

Gasol would never be traded for the long-term contract of Crawford - they're looking to cut payroll. And Jermaine o Neal should get considerably better offers than Frye Crawford and a late 1st round pick. Lets remind ourselves that these guys are bonafide all-stars.

Sene or Petro are raw, low-profile options, whom you could get for practically nothing. Do they suck now? Sure. The gamble here is the reason that they come cheap. Just as the gamble with Frye and Crawford cheapens their trade value. If you insist on giving up less, you have to target unproven players.

Posted by EnySpree:

If craw, frye and chicago's pick can't pull Tyson Chandler the knicks should just give up.

agreed... the guy's not THAT good... i'd rather target Sean Williams from BC w/our draft pick & stand pat than make that type of trade for a guy like Tyson Chandler

http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/seanwilliams.html

7'5" wingspan & 1 of the better shotblockers i've seen coming out of college in a while... this is exactly what the Knicks need.

There will be NO trades...mark my words.

Chandler had 11 pts, 22 reb last night if I'm not mistaken, and he fits their system. They are not trading him.

Posted by babyKnicks:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by EnySpree:

If craw, frye and chicago's pick can't pull Tyson Chandler the knicks should just give up.

agreed... the guy's not THAT good... i'd rather target Sean Williams from BC w/our draft pick & stand pat than make that type of trade for a guy like Tyson Chandler

http://nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/seanwilliams.html

7'5" wingspan & 1 of the better shotblockers i've seen coming out of college in a while... this is exactly what the Knicks need.

i agree. there is no "role" player on someone elses team I'm willing to give up ANY of our youth to get, I'd rather draft that role player for free.

If a trade isn't bringing an all star, it really isn't going to help the knicks.

Well said.

Chandler would be amazing for this team, but they'll never trade him.