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For the Knicks to be good in the future you trade Lee
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King1
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1/27/2007  4:38 PM
You have a commodity on your team that has a very high trade value. With this value you can trade Lee and Crawford. This would get rid of a long contract and in return you could get a player like Artest, AK, Nocioni, and probably a high draft pick. It would balance your team out and fill some holes. Frye doenst have as high of trade value right now. The team you currently have wont ever win and I dont see in 2 years the Knicks wanting to give Lee 50 million.
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1/27/2007  4:46 PM
The title of this thread should be for the Knicks to get immediately better we should trade Lee. I dont see how trading Lee for a guy who has been in the league 8 years is for the future. Or for a guy who misses half the season with injuries while in his physical prime. Or for a bum like Nocioni. Id say to build for the future we keep our young front court, but then again i dont know the secret signal for a screen so what do i know?
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1/27/2007  4:50 PM
I am saying you can get someone young, I just was throwing names out there. Having both Lee and Frye you would have to play Lee at the 3 and he would be a defensive liability. Why not hope Frye will turn into a big time player, and get rid of a bad contract and trade Lee.
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1/27/2007  4:52 PM
Why not get rid of Frye and keep the guy who is arguably the most promising player on our team?
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King1
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1/27/2007  4:54 PM
What could you get for Frye right now? I agree that is the best choice but would someone take a bad contract with Frye?
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1/27/2007  5:11 PM
frye and robinson should be the package shopped around, only that. trading lee makes no sense.
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1/27/2007  5:13 PM
Posted by King1:

You have a commodity on your team that has a very high trade value. With this value you can trade Lee and Crawford. This would get rid of a long contract and in return you could get a player like Artest, AK, Nocioni, and probably a high draft pick. It would balance your team out and fill some holes. Frye doenst have as high of trade value right now. The team you currently have wont ever win and I dont see in 2 years the Knicks wanting to give Lee 50 million.

if is i was lee's agent--id ask for the max--forget this 50mm --they have to pay him--he's *the guy* here ez money
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1/27/2007  5:36 PM
Curry's the one with value to trade. Lee's the one with value to keep.
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1/27/2007  5:41 PM
Briggs he has a great agent. The same guy that got Brian Grant, Brad Miller, and Brian Cardinal a lot of money. Bartelstein has to be happy with the guys he had in last year draft. Granger, Lee, and Head arent three bad ones to have.
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1/27/2007  5:42 PM
Posted by King1:

You have a commodity on your team that has a very high trade value. With this value you can trade Lee and Crawford. This would get rid of a long contract and in return you could get a player like Artest, AK, Nocioni, and probably a high draft pick. It would balance your team out and fill some holes. Frye doenst have as high of trade value right now. The team you currently have wont ever win and I dont see in 2 years the Knicks wanting to give Lee 50 million.

We gave Jeffries and JJ1 $30 mil. I see no reason why we cannot give Lee $50 mill. Marbury and Francis' deals will be coming off the books, so our overall salary situation would not change much. I would really like to see Frye and Lee develop more. I think time is on our side because both will get better. I think Frye and Lee's trade value this time next year will be higher than it is now.
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1/27/2007  5:53 PM
dolan said he would never lose a player b/c of money so if lee continues like this, is a fan favorite, and one of the top rebounders in the league, he will give him a big deal. h20 got $100 mil under dolan...shandon and eisley got $40+ mil deals and we know about the last two MLE's. if lee is a baller, the knicks WILL match any offer for him. the only way he can probably leave is when he's an unrestricted free agent, but i don't anticipate him reaching the "unrestricted" status with us.
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1/27/2007  5:56 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's the one with value to trade. Lee's the one with value to keep.

what team would accept the heart risk?
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1/27/2007  6:00 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's the one with value to trade. Lee's the one with value to keep.

what team would accept the heart risk?

Teams would line up to trade for Curry, especially if they have a defensive PF to put next to him. He is no worse than the 5th best post player in the league on offense.
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1/27/2007  6:02 PM
Posted by King1:

You have a commodity on your team that has a very high trade value. With this value you can trade Lee and Crawford. This would get rid of a long contract and in return you could get a player like Artest, AK, Nocioni, and probably a high draft pick. It would balance your team out and fill some holes. Frye doenst have as high of trade value right now. The team you currently have wont ever win and I dont see in 2 years the Knicks wanting to give Lee 50 million.

Why don't we just let the dumb contracts run out like starbury and francis to open up some buying room that way, and keep Lee and Crawford. By the time we get someone else of value, will have a young team who have a lot of experience together. Just like a busines, you always have to take experience into consideration, before you fire everyone.
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1/27/2007  6:05 PM
Posted by King1:

What could you get for Frye right now? I agree that is the best choice but would someone take a bad contract with Frye?

I bet you they'rd be a lot of takers out there. It's one of those players, in a short period of time of playing, that you'd probably want to take a chance on, before the chance dissapears. The whole league knows what Frye might turn out to be. Zeke believed in Curry, when no one else did and he's finally prospering! Don't be too quick to sign Frye off.
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1/27/2007  6:05 PM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's the one with value to trade. Lee's the one with value to keep.

what team would accept the heart risk?

Teams would line up to trade for Curry, especially if they have a defensive PF to put next to him. He is no worse than the 5th best post player in the league on offense.

Its not about basketball, its about risk. No team will be willing to gamble on a guy with a heart condition. Any trade we do try to swing if possible, will never be for equal value. If we can't trade Q because of his uninsured back, no team would take Curry's uninsured heart. Only deep-pockets Cablevision could afford to lose a 50million investment without insurance. Curry is basically untradeable.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/27/2007  6:09 PM

Frye's problems right now just might be a coaching thing. If you noticed, Frye thrived under Brown's pressure and starbury fell apart at the seams. Now Frye is not doing so good under coach Zeke but starbury has settled down.
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1/27/2007  6:15 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by kam77:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's the one with value to trade. Lee's the one with value to keep.

what team would accept the heart risk?

Teams would line up to trade for Curry, especially if they have a defensive PF to put next to him. He is no worse than the 5th best post player in the league on offense.

Its not about basketball, its about risk. No team will be willing to gamble on a guy with a heart condition. Any trade we do try to swing if possible, will never be for equal value. If we can't trade Q because of his uninsured back, no team would take Curry's uninsured heart. Only deep-pockets Cablevision could afford to lose a 50million investment without insurance. Curry is basically untradeable.

it's one of the benefits of having dolan as your owner, no price is a risk.

i think, today, teams will trade for curry, especially considering the big bucks doled out for chandler, kaman, and dalembert. curry provides the complete opposite of those guys and now that he's shown he can play two full seasons (even if last season he was out of shape), i don't think the heart is as big an issue to other GM as it was 2 summers ago.

but quentin...well he's already missed at least 10 games this year b/c of his back so it's a chronic problem.
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1/27/2007  6:18 PM
addition: but other gm's must also realize that curry will probably opt out in 2 more years so they will have to ante up a near max, if not max deal at that point (if he keeps scoring 20 ppg).
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1/27/2007  6:26 PM
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it's one of the benefits of having dolan as your owner, no price is a risk.
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It's just not a good idea to stay in debt like that. Let alone get' into debt. It corners you and there's nothing you can do about it, unless Dolan wants to buy out about 80 millions dollars worth of players, in which case you know' he's not about to do.
I'll never trust this' team again.
For the Knicks to be good in the future you trade Lee

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