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Killa4luv
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1/18/2007  9:59 AM
1. Jared Jeffries banged 18-20 foot jumpers 3 times!!! It looked smooth too. I think we have to keep in mind this dude had a wrist injury. Patrick Ewing took forever to recover from his wrist injury. But more importantly, JJ has to get better in the post, he's 6-10 and playing the 3, if Aquirre can get him decent he can be a weapon in the post against smaller players.

2. Stephs defense. Phenomenal. Arenas, was out of the game for the most part. Doubles, helped too, but Steph was great one on one.

3. That Zone, and poor reffing really hampered our O. Curry was doubled, and with Steph not getting the calls, it made it tough for him to penetrate. And his shot was not falling.

4. Q is back. He was in rare form, he put the team on his back.

5. Rebounding, we outrebounded them on paper, but in the game, they had some 2nd and 3rd chance oppurtunities that they really shouldn't have had in the 2nd half. That really costed us, imo. More than anything else. Rebounds killed us, even with the great D. Lee in there.

6. Craws shot left TWELVE seconds on the clock. Bad move. Very bad. 12 seconds is just way to long. 6 seconds, 8 seconds, but 12 is just too much time.

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1/18/2007  10:01 AM
those jeffries shots looked good but his form is so bad.. i have trouble thinking he will ever be a good shooter
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1/18/2007  10:06 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

5. Rebounding, we outrebounded them on paper, but in the game, they had some 2nd and 3rd chance oppurtunities that they really shouldn't have had in the 2nd half. That really costed us, imo. More than anything else. Rebounds killed us, even with the great D. Lee in there.

this is why I think our team rebounding numbers are not reliable... late in games, when guys don't or forget to block out, we lose games cause of missed rebounding opportunities.
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1/18/2007  10:11 AM
Here are my observations

1. Jefferies: probably was close to on par with the james signing, he made three jumpers which may never happen again, his defense is terrible he gets lit up nearly every game and let jamison go right by him for the go ahead basket because he wasn't low and didn't body him.

2. Crawford: Like I saw every game, sucks! He made the big shot, frankly that nice and all but who cares. He had four to's that were careless bonehead plays, he creates fast break baskets every game with his bad decision and terrible shot selection. He can't shoot the ball consistenly and was aweful again last night...

3. Balkman? Can we just move the guy? Why draft a guy that has the ability to harrass shooters and get in their face if you don't ever let them play. Him and lee always do well. Curry/lee/balkman/q/marbury can we see that lineup for at least 10 minutes a night....
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1/18/2007  10:13 AM
Posted by MS:

3. Balkman? Him and lee always do well. Curry/lee/balkman/q/marbury can we see that lineup for at least 10 minutes a night....

Amen to that!
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1/18/2007  10:29 AM
jeffries wrist injury is to his NON shooting hand. ewing damn near ripped apart his wrist on his SHOOTING hand. big difference.

steph's defense = i dont think anybody else in the league could've done a better job on arenas last night

jamal's shot - it's tough to say anything bad about it, especially the time on the clock b/c the most important thing is MAKING the shot, not the clock management ala football. but outside of that 1 shot, which everybody will remember, he played an absolutely terrible game.

the last play was a scramble. it's a tough call but you saw the wiz have trouble the possession before when haywood was just holding onto the ball. then jamison made an easy layup through our swiss cheese defense. they tried it again, and there was another scramble. jeffries popped out on jamison but haywood was between him and caron and he got screened off as deshawn found caron for the dunk.

quentin was on fire. if he wasn't, this team gets blown out by 20+, even with a locked down arenas. our interior defense is absolutely AWFUL. and we need to get marbury (who's playing great) some damn help in the backcourt.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 01-18-2007 10:35 AM]
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1/18/2007  10:30 AM
i had a feeling MS would be on Jamal's case for his shooting last night... if we'd won the game on his last second shot that just barely missed going in i have a feeling i wouldn't be hearing any complaints.

the fact that he left 12 seconds on the clock may have been what Isiah told him to do... maybe the plan was not to wait until the clock winded all the way down & to drive into the lane when the other team was least expecting it or before the double team had a chance to develop? does the fact that he actually MADE the shot that should've won the game for us last night not count?

why not get on Jefferies' case for that complete brain fart on leaving his man wide open right underneath the basket for an easy dunk w/2 seconds remaining? oh, i forgot, he hit 3 wide open jumpers last night for a HUGE 6 points early on in the game... he's clearly above reproach for his "heroics".
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1/18/2007  10:34 AM
Posted by TMS:

i had a feeling MS would be on Jamal's case for his shooting last night... if we'd won the game on his last second shot that just barely missed going in i have a feeling i wouldn't be hearing any complaints.

the fact that he left 12 seconds on the clock may have been what Isiah told him to do... maybe the plan was not to wait until the clock winded all the way down & to drive into the lane when the other team was least expecting it or before the double team had a chance to develop? does the fact that he actually MADE the shot that should've won the game for us last night not count?

why not get on Jefferies' case for that complete brain fart on leaving his man wide open right underneath the basket for an easy dunk w/2 seconds remaining? oh, i forgot, he hit 3 wide open jumpers last night for a HUGE 6 points early on in the game... he's clearly above reproach for his "heroics".

wasn't it a scramble play where JJ was rotating out on someone?
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1/18/2007  10:37 AM
Posted by TMS:

i had a feeling MS would be on Jamal's case for his shooting last night... if we'd won the game on his last second shot that just barely missed going in i have a feeling i wouldn't be hearing any complaints.

that's a BIG TIME problem. too many people remember that last shot but forget damn near the rest of the game. there was a part of the game where he made 3 turnover's or bad decisions in a row (just like the sacramento game) that HURT. and those possessions do effect the game and play a part in how the game is played down the stretch.

jamal has regressed this year. even tho his #'s are up, his %'s stink and his decision making is downright awful at times. the guy needs to man up and play with some control. 1/2 his crap is rucker style.

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1/18/2007  10:38 AM
so the play was to rotate out on a guy standing behind the 3 point line & leaving your man wide open underneath the basket? i dunno, i have to watch the play again on replay but it sure looked to me like he lost track of his man & he got himself an easy dunk.
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1/18/2007  10:42 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by TMS:

i had a feeling MS would be on Jamal's case for his shooting last night... if we'd won the game on his last second shot that just barely missed going in i have a feeling i wouldn't be hearing any complaints.

that's a BIG TIME problem. too many people remember that last shot but forget damn near the rest of the game. there was a part of the game where he made 3 turnover's or bad decisions in a row (just like the sacramento game) that HURT. and those possessions do effect the game and play a part in how the game is played down the stretch.

jamal has regressed this year. even tho his #'s are up, his %'s stink and his decision making is downright awful at times. the guy needs to man up and play with some control. 1/2 his crap is rucker style.

i'm not excusing the guy for forcing the issue & committing turnovers, but bottomline, he stepped up when the team needed him to & sank the basket that shoulda won the game... there will be games where Jamal plays a great game & put up 30 on you also... like i've said all along, that's what he is, a streaky shooter, but i give him all the credit in the world for not being afraid to step up with the game on the line no matter what... i don't want a guy who shrinks away from the pressure on this team... we need assassins who just don't give a F & will sink that dagger into your heart & twist it... that's the type of player Jamal can be.
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1/18/2007  10:43 AM
Q was supposed to guard Caron right? But when Q rotated, JJ did not.
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1/18/2007  10:50 AM
what i seem to remember happening was Jamal coming over to double Arenas who Steph was guarding... that left DeShawn open... Arenas swung the ball to Jamison on the other side & JJ rotated over... then Jamison drove into the lane & passed off to DeShawn... Q rushed to rotate over to DeShawn & JJ didn't rotate back over to cover Butler... DeShawn drove past Q & D Lee was standing there w/his arms up, he dished off to Butler who was all alone underneath the hoop for the easy dunk.

if i got some of that wrong, let me know.
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1/18/2007  10:53 AM
it was Butler? I thought it was Jamison. Either way JJ didn't rotate. He stood there clueless as he often does. Defenders usually know how to defend
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1/18/2007  10:54 AM
Maybe the mistake was to double arenas there. He was not on fire due to the stifling double teams all game. And maybe they were expecting the double team. Instead we could've faked them out, gone with just Marbury on Arenas, let Agent 0 try and beat us when his shot has no rythym to it.

[Edited by - kam77 on 01-18-2007 10:55 AM]
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1/18/2007  10:59 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by TMS:

i had a feeling MS would be on Jamal's case for his shooting last night... if we'd won the game on his last second shot that just barely missed going in i have a feeling i wouldn't be hearing any complaints.

that's a BIG TIME problem. too many people remember that last shot but forget damn near the rest of the game. there was a part of the game where he made 3 turnover's or bad decisions in a row (just like the sacramento game) that HURT. and those possessions do effect the game and play a part in how the game is played down the stretch.

jamal has regressed this year. even tho his #'s are up, his %'s stink and his decision making is downright awful at times. the guy needs to man up and play with some control. 1/2 his crap is rucker style.

i'm not excusing the guy for forcing the issue & committing turnovers, but bottomline, he stepped up when the team needed him to & sank the basket that shoulda won the game... there will be games where Jamal plays a great game & put up 30 on you also... like i've said all along, that's what he is, a streaky shooter, but i give him all the credit in the world for not being afraid to step up with the game on the line no matter what... i don't want a guy who shrinks away from the pressure on this team... we need assassins who just don't give a F & will sink that dagger into your heart & twist it... that's the type of player Jamal can be.

the guy does hit big shots. and that's always a good thing to have. but considering how under control and much more of a consistent and heady player he was in the final 2 months of last season, this season, i see regression.

but exactly how "big" are these shots? i'm not taking away his ability to hit them but they're the difference between 25 wins on the season or 30.
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1/18/2007  11:00 AM
Posted by kam77:

Maybe the mistake was to double arenas there. He was not on fire due to the stifling double teams all game. And maybe they were expecting the double team. Instead we could've faked them out, gone with just Marbury on Arenas, let Agent 0 try and beat us when his shot has no rythym to it.

that's the question. it's like do you foul a shooter up 3 in the final seconds so they don't take a three point shot to tie?
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1/18/2007  11:01 AM
Posted by TMS:

what i seem to remember happening was Jamal coming over to double Arenas who Steph was guarding... that left DeShawn open... Arenas swung the ball to Jamison on the other side & JJ rotated over... then Jamison drove into the lane & passed off to DeShawn... Q rushed to rotate over to DeShawn & JJ didn't rotate back over to cover Butler... DeShawn drove past Q & D Lee was standing there w/his arms up, he dished off to Butler who was all alone underneath the hoop for the easy dunk.

if i got some of that wrong, let me know.

but then who was guarding jamison? b/c if jeffries left jamison, he would've been WIDE OPEN for a little jumper at the dotted line.

we were screwed no matter what, even if jeffries rotated to caron.
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1/18/2007  11:02 AM
Posted by kam77:

Maybe the mistake was to double arenas there. He was not on fire due to the stifling double teams all game. And maybe they were expecting the double team. Instead we could've faked them out, gone with just Marbury on Arenas, let Agent 0 try and beat us when his shot has no rythym to it.

[Edited by - kam77 on 01-18-2007 10:55 AM]


Thats what i would've done. Arenas doesn't scare me the way a guy like Kobe or Wade would because they can score from anywhere at the end of games. I much rather have him take a contested 3 and watch it clank off the rim and be happy. Instead of watching JJ stand there like a clueless idiot

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01-18-2007 11:03 AM]
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1/18/2007  11:02 AM
i agree w/u there as i've said in the past... he played alot more under control last year when he was asked to orchestrate more of the offense... that's why i keep wanting him to be given the reigns to be our starting PG... i just think he's a much more heady player when he's looking to get his teammates involved instead of struggling to get touches in the flow of the offense & then chucking up shots every time he touches it out of the 2G spot.
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