[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Eddy puts up another 20 & 10 game
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
1/15/2007  5:46 PM
just wondering how people would feel about Channing Frye if he had posted a 20 & 10 game... so far this season, Curry's posted seven 20 & 10 games, & just barely missed by a point or 2 or a rebound or 2 in 8 or 9 others.

expectations for Curry are extremely high, & understandably so considering what the Knicks gave up to get him, but to me games like this represent a huge step up for Curry & the more he has them the more & more this trade looks to be a very good one for the NY Knicks & their franchise. him going 10 of 12 from the FT line was the most encouraging line of the night for him... if he can shoot a better % at the FT line, he's going to be making teams pay big time for fouling him down low in the paint... as it is he's averaging 19 & 7 on the season... if his FT shooting goes up, you're looking at a 22-25 ppg scorer easy.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
AUTOADVERT
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
1/15/2007  5:50 PM
He's slowly turning Isiah into a respectable GM.
ES
Bonn1997
Posts: 58654
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 2/2/2004
Member: #581
USA
1/15/2007  5:52 PM
He played a good game game. He can get 10 rbs without even boxing out like today just because of his size and quickness if he pursues the ball. Please no more 3 or 4 rebound games. As for Frye, right now Curry's a better player than Frye and he's probably better than Frye will ever be. You still can't compare a 6th to a 2nd year player, though.
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
1/15/2007  5:53 PM
Since Curry's first 20 and 10 game against Boston, where it really seemed like the team committed to going to him as the first option, Curry has been averaging 22.3ppg and 7.9rpg.

22.3ppg and 7.9rpg.

Those are all-star numbers and I think it's fair to say those are the numbers we thought we were trading for. Our record over that stretch, despite a bunch of injuries and Marbury not really playing well until Francis went away, etc is 13-13.
¿ △ ?
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
1/15/2007  6:02 PM
Hard to say if he will be better the curry, especially since currys a true center, and fry is a true pf. But I Have more faith in FRY learning how to post up more, as oppose to Curry ever finding a mid range shot.
ES
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
1/15/2007  6:05 PM
i have zero faith that Frye will ever be as dominating in the low post as Curry is right now... i'm talking about "can't stop him when he gets the ball down low" type domination where teams have to double & triple team you just to get the ball out of your hands.

Frye's got a sweet perimeter shot, but he'll always only be a supplemental player, never a central focus of any offense... Curry has a chance to be a real franchise calibre player someday, & that's something you have to get excited about.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
1/15/2007  6:05 PM
Posted by knicks1248:

Hard to say if he will be better the curry, especially since currys a true center, and fry is a true pf. But I Have more faith in FRY learning how to post up more, as oppose to Curry ever finding a mid range shot.

Curry has developed all sorts of moves. I'm sorry, you don't average 22pg, or even the 19ppg he's averaged for the season by being a one trick pony. Curry has made a lot more adjustments to his game than Frye has this season. I like Frye a lot, but don't discount how hard Curry has worked this season.

¿ △ ?
djsunyc
Posts: 44929
Alba Posts: 42
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #536
1/15/2007  6:12 PM
not for nothing, but this game vs. the kings was one quiet 20 & 10 game.
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
1/15/2007  6:14 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

not for nothing, but this game vs. the kings was one quiet 20 & 10 game.

24 and 10.
¿ △ ?
Anji
Posts: 25523
Alba Posts: 9
Joined: 4/14/2006
Member: #1122
USA
1/15/2007  6:15 PM
I think this could have been posted in the one of many Elite, Trueblue/BlueSeats Curry threads. If you posted in all of them it would fill the front page.
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081
1/15/2007  6:21 PM

Did you guys see Curry dunk and did a 180 pirouette hanging from the rim as tho was 150 lbs ...
bigbeast
Posts: 22333
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 12/21/2005
Member: #1060
1/15/2007  6:29 PM
Curry has improved in many aspects of his game.

Comming into the season there were many areas he needed to improve:

Stamina: Curry is averaging 34 minutes a game. He's running the break well and on numerous occassions we've seen him beat his man down court and set up shop under the basket for good ball position.

Fouls: Hasn't been in foul trouble much this yr. Has stopped lowering his shoulder and barrelling over defenders.

Post moves: Curry has developed more moves on the post. He now has a drop step, turns over his right shoulder more and finishes with his left, gets much deeper position in the post, is more patient and willing to kick it back out to the perimeter and repost instead of rushing like last yr, he's even dropped in a few reverse layups. Showed the jumper from 12 feet out early in the yr but has since put it back in his bag of tricks. No need for it if they can't stop you on the post.

Freethrows: Got off to a horrible start, but has been shooting much better over the last 7 or so games.

Rebounds: Obviously still needs more works here but is better than last yr. I believe he already has more double-doubles this yr than all of last yr (could be wrong but I'll check it out again)

Defense: Another area he needs to improve, obviously. He'll never be great at defending the pickl and roll. Most big men (Shaq, Ming etc) aren't good at it. But would like to see him be more of a presence in thepaint defensively. One thing I like, is I'm seeing him talk more on defense. Saw him and JJ2 talk and swicth assignments during the Charlotte game and saw him talking a gain today.


Curry has improved in alot of areas and there is no reason not to beleive this kid isn't going to keep working to sure up some of the remaing weak areas.



[Edited by - bigbeast on 01-15-2007 6:31 PM]
"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
SugarRayRichardson
Posts: 21557
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/28/2006
Member: #1169
1/15/2007  6:35 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:

not for nothing, but this game vs. the kings was one quiet 20 & 10 game.

24 and 10.

24-10 and 2 assists against non stop double teams!
Curry has very good outside shooting form but I dont wnat him shooting from outside because I dont wnat him settling for a jump shot
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
holfresh
Posts: 38679
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/14/2006
Member: #1081
1/15/2007  6:35 PM

Seriously, this seems to be the way Curry will play going forward..Jury is still out because we haven't ever seen the guy play like this..He could get a lot better...

1. There is no way Chicago makes that trade again if they thought Curry had this in him ...

2. What has Scott Skiles been doing with this guy the last few years?
SugarRayRichardson
Posts: 21557
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 8/28/2006
Member: #1169
1/15/2007  6:37 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Seriously, this seems to be the way Curry will play going forward..Jury is still out because we haven't ever seen the guy play like this..He could get a lot better...

1. There is no way Chicago makes that trade again if they thought Curry had this in him ...

2. What has Scott Skiles been doing with this guy the last few years?


Pax didnt want to trade him but the Bulls owner would not pay an uninsured contract. Pax was basically devstated the day the trade was made. Since then he has said multiple times the Bulls will never be contenders without a post game. He said it recently in the paper but I also heard it on Mike and Mike around 6 weeks ago
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/15/2007  6:44 PM
Please no more X-player Vs. Frye or any other player on the team! Before it was Lee Vs. Frye, now it is Curry Vs. Frye!?

Can't you guys see they are all totally different types of players and their abilities actually complement each other because they can all play on different parts of the court at the same time?

As they play more together and grow they will become more formidable. It is happening before our eyes!

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
crzymdups
Posts: 52018
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/1/2004
Member: #671
USA
1/15/2007  7:15 PM
Posted by oohah:

Please no more X-player Vs. Frye or any other player on the team! Before it was Lee Vs. Frye, now it is Curry Vs. Frye!?

Can't you guys see they are all totally different types of players and their abilities actually complement each other because they can all play on different parts of the court at the same time?

As they play more together and grow they will become more formidable. It is happening before our eyes!

oohah

I think most sensibile fans like all three of those guys, but there are always going to be some guys who blame Curry for last season and the #2 pick Chicago got. And the point of this thread, I think, is that Curry has these ridiculous expectations placed on him because of the nature he arrived here and what we gave up to get him - which a lot of Knicks fans will tell you was Oden before we even know whether Oden is coming out this season. It's incredibly unfair to Curry even to blame him for last season and takes blame off the no.1 culprit for the record - the despicable Larry Brown who tanked the season to try and get power from Isiah. These same people still defend Larry and my only guess is because they like the fact that Larry's sole goal here last season was to make Thomas and Marbury look bad to get them out of town. Oh well, I guess everyone is going to have to come to terms with the facts that Larry failed and Isiah is not as bad as they want him to be.

Frye does get compared to Bynum though and there are still some people who will tell you with a straight face they'd rather have Bynum than Curry or that they'd rather have Bynum and Tyrus rather than Eddy and Frye. This is easy to do, because it's easy to imagine a dream team where nothing can go wrong, rather than deal with the reality of a decent team that's getting better slowly but surely.
¿ △ ?
oohah
Posts: 26600
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/7/2005
Member: #887
1/15/2007  8:06 PM
I think most sensibile fans like all three of those guys, but there are always going to be some guys who blame Curry for last season and the #2 pick Chicago got. And the point of this thread, I think, is that Curry has these ridiculous expectations placed on him because of the nature he arrived here and what we gave up to get him - which a lot of Knicks fans will tell you was Oden before we even know whether Oden is coming out this season. It's incredibly unfair to Curry even to blame him for last season and takes blame off the no.1 culprit for the record - the despicable Larry Brown who tanked the season to try and get power from Isiah. These same people still defend Larry and my only guess is because they like the fact that Larry's sole goal here last season was to make Thomas and Marbury look bad to get them out of town. Oh well, I guess everyone is going to have to come to terms with the facts that Larry failed and Isiah is not as bad as they want him to be.

Frye does get compared to Bynum though and there are still some people who will tell you with a straight face they'd rather have Bynum than Curry or that they'd rather have Bynum and Tyrus rather than Eddy and Frye. This is easy to do, because it's easy to imagine a dream team where nothing can go wrong, rather than deal with the reality of a decent team that's getting better slowly but surely.


And that my friends, is the word.



oohah


Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
Rich
Posts: 27410
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 12/30/2003
Member: #511
USA
1/15/2007  8:15 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

not for nothing, but this game vs. the kings was one quiet 20 & 10 game.

You're just becoming jaded by Curry's incipient greatness...

[Edited by - Rich on 01-15-2007 8:16 PM]
MX25
Posts: 20591
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 1/20/2004
Member: #555
USA
1/15/2007  9:30 PM
Lee is still best Knick player.
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Eddy puts up another 20 & 10 game
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy