1) Trade: Frye, Nate, Marbury for Ray Allen+
2) Sign: Chris Webber

Main pieces:
C-Curry
C-Cato
C/PF-Webber
PF-Lee
SF/SG-Q Rich
SF-Balkman
SG-R. Allen
SG/PG-Crawford
PG-Francis

Which would leave us with these leftovers:
C-James
PF-M. Rose
SF-Jeffries
PG-Collins

I would try to see, if possible, of packaging one or two of the "leftovers" and seeing if we could get a shotblocker. Etan Thomas would be a nice piece. We also need a distributing PG off the bench. Maybe Mardy Collins could be this player.

I'd feel a lot better about a more balanced team, constructed in the way I described.

- Frye, Nate & Marbury for Ray Allen & Damien Wilkins
- Jefferies & cash considerations for Etan Thomas
- sign CWebb

this would be a team i can easily picture going into the 2nd round & maybe beyond this season:

C - Curry / Etan / Cato
PF - CWebb / Lee / Malik
SF - Q Rich / Balkman
SG - Ray / Wilkins
PG - Crawford / Mardy
IA - Francis / Turd

[Edited by - TMS on 01-12-2007 2:49 PM]

Posted by TMS:

- Frye, Nate & Marbury for Ray Allen & Damien Wilkins
- Jefferies & cash considerations for Etan Thomas
- sign CWebb

this would be a team i can easily picture going into the 2nd round & maybe beyond this season:

C - Curry / Etan / Cato
PF - CWebb / Lee / Malik
SF - Q Rich / Balkman
SG - Ray / Wilkins
PG - Crawford / Mardy
IA - Francis / Turd

Sold. I like it.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry and C Webb as your starting interior defenders? I don't see that team even making the playoffs unless .400 gets the team in in this division.

the starting lineup defense is admittedly weak, but you make up for it in sheer scoring muscle... who's going to stop a starting 5 w/that much offensive scoring power? if you try & stop Curry, Q Rich, Ray Allen & Jamal will light u up from the perimeter... if you try & tighten down on the perimeter D, then Curry & CWebb get theirs in the paint & in the pick & roll... then you have some good defensive role players in the 2nd unit like Etan, Balkman, Wilkins, Cato & Mardy, & 1 of the game's best rebounders in D Lee.

it's not a championship winning team just yet, but it's a start... definitely can picture that team winning the Atlantic & beating the Bulls or Wizards in a 1st round series... then you take your chances in the 2nd round... if 1 of those guys goes off & has a great series, you never know what can happen... & it's not selling the future for immediate mediocrity either, since you still have a good young core still developing.

Posted by nyk4ever:

While I kind of like your ideas Solace, especially Ray Allen, the window to win a championship for that team would be about 2 years. So I'm not so sure I would go through with it.

I have a different view. I don't see Frye, Nate or Jeffries as major pieces ever. That may be harsh, but that's how I see them. In other words, expendable. So trading them for RayRay, Etan, and signing Webber gives us a good team now, and at the same time, in a few seasons, they'll be off the books, we'll be under the cap (getting rid of Nate and Frye will ease the future cap situation), and might be able to make a bigtime run at whoever is available at that time, along with a young core with accumulating draft picks during a few seasons with no pressure of them developing right away.

Posted by Solace:

I have a different view. I don't see Frye, Nate or Jeffries as major pieces ever. That may be harsh, but that's how I see them. In other words, expendable. So trading them for RayRay, Etan, and signing Webber gives us a good team now, and at the same time, in a few seasons, they'll be off the books, we'll be under the cap (getting rid of Nate and Frye will ease the future cap situation), and might be able to make a bigtime run at whoever is available at that time, along with a young core with accumulating draft picks during a few seasons with no pressure of them developing right away.

Ray's contract goes 1 year longer than Steph's, so it actually hurts us for a year cap wise... but we do get 1 year of Jefferies' contract off the books also... other than that, i agree w/all that.



[Edited by - TMS on 01-12-2007 3:11 PM]

Q is shooting it as good as Ray Allen and giving us good d and rebounding

Posted by Solace:

Posted by TMS:

- Frye, Nate & Marbury for Ray Allen & Damien Wilkins
- Jefferies & cash considerations for Etan Thomas
- sign CWebb

this would be a team i can easily picture going into the 2nd round & maybe beyond this season:

C - Curry / Etan / Cato
PF - CWebb / Lee / Malik
SF - Q Rich / Balkman
SG - Ray / Wilkins
PG - Crawford / Mardy
IA - Francis / Turd

Sold. I like it.

no G's under 6'5" would give us some good matchups to take advantage of also.

Posted by nyk4ever:

What I don't get is this.

If Isiah EVER offered Channing Frye and Jamal Crawford for Ray Allen, I have a pretty good feeling that the Sonics would accept that trade. If you have to throw in Nate, then you throw in Nate. Adding Ray Allen to this team would do absolute WONDERS. Instead of having your PF be the guy that "spreads" the floor for Curry, you now have a elite scorer from outside in Ray Allen and a great 2man game between Ray and Curry. I don't think trading Frye, Craw, and Nate really hurts our team because RayRay does all the things they do, rolled into one. If anything it would open up roster spots for Isiah to bring in some good young talent.

i wouldn't include Frye if they wanted Crawford & Nate... too much youth to give up for a player who's reached his prime already & is likely on the decline in another year or 2... i do the Marbury one because it's basically a huge veteran contract for a huge veteran contract type deal, & i have more faith moving forward w/Allen on the roster than Marbury anyway... Jamal & Ray in the backcourt is deficient defensively, but a powerhouse scoring tandem... then adding on the other defensive role players we would add can help balance out the roster.

hey, it's fun to play fantasy GM... but i think this is a doable plan myself.

I don't... i think Ray Allen would make a difference on this Knicks team, & to a lesser extent, Etan Thomas... CWebb is only being signed to take Frye's role on the team.

[Edited by - TMS on 01-12-2007 3:36 PM]

SMH..........