RAYYY AALLENN!


It makes all the sense in the world, and that's probly why it won't happen.


We need a 3PT shooter BADLY and a leader and a guy that can take over games on the perimeter while Curry does it down low.

Seattle is sucking wind pretty bad, and might as well start fresh, bump Rashard up to franchise status.


Crawford
Frye
-filler-

for

Allen
-filler-


When Jefferson returns in Jersey, they'll take the East, and we'll be left out. Chicago gets a lottery pick in a DEEP draft.


Orrr, we get RAYYY AAALLENN, and throw out this lineup to compete in the East for the next 3-4 years.


Marbury
Allen
Jefferies
Lee
Curry

with a deep as hell bench.


Remember Isiah backed the Marbury trade in the beginning b/c he felt his penetration would create open shots for H2O.

Well......

I don't think Seattle would make that deal and I think they could get more for Allen somewhere else if they shopped him, but its not that crazy...

Frye is young and you're right, they're going nowhere this year. Allen is older and a franchise in their position should consider dealing him before his value drops. Crawfords young and his roots/popularity to Seattle are a selling point - even throw in Nate for the same reason. Unfortunately that last factor likely comes out of play at seasons end which hurts selling them on ticket sales staying consistent or going up.

I don't think Seattle would do it, but this is not a crazy idea.

I dont think I can pass a deal that makes us look like a contender in the East. We will still have two young big men who will reaching their prime when Marbury and Allen are over the hill.

Posted by TMS:

take a gander at Ray Allen's contract please... no thanks to that unless we can unload Marbury for him.

How long does his contact run?

Wow, until 2010 - good point. Thats a monster deal.

I certainly cant rely on just nate being the backup pg,

Posted by TMS:

take a gander at Ray Allen's contract please... no thanks to that unless we can unload Marbury for him.

It ain't your money.

I would rather stay with craw. Craw is very good when he has got it going and lately he has had it going. Ray is not perfect especially since he was shut down by the knicks, lol.

If you look at it like marbs getting old and you are trying to maximize your chances while he is in his prime then do it. On your way, being webber in also to upgrade frye giving you a legit reason to bench lee. Then go from there.

Webber
Q
Curry
Marbs
Ray

Not bad especially if you consider the bench you would have behind them.

Experience and poise in your starters and then bring in the mad men off the bench.

I'm down if the knicks only trade frye, and craw, and fillers. I can see Nate go too.

Having Jared, balkman, lee, and cato off the bench is some serious hurtin. Maybe Watson can come too.

What is dolan gonna say about all this?

Posted by babyKnicks:

he's as unhealthy as qrich these days...why give up our future on a player that qrich could be already?

No Way. There is no comparison between Allen and Q. Not only is Ray "arguably" the best shooter in the game, he is a very versatile offensive player who can take it to the hole with authority and throw it down. Ray had a nagging injury to his ankle I believe, but dont compare that to Q's cronic back injury which isn't going to get better.

With that said, I would perfer to get younger in the back court to go with our young front court. But Ray Allens skill-set is the perfect compliment to Marbury and Curry. Allen will be 32 this summer which would worry me, but the jumper is usually the last to go.

I agree. Good deal. Not sure Seattle goes for it, but they might. Besides, Crawford has a large bloated contract too, so I wouldn't mind Ray Allen's instead. Frye in the deal does not bother me if we combine it with signing Webber. As was posted earlier:

C-Curry
PF-Webber
SF-QRich
SG-R. Allen
PG-Marbury

Bench:
C-Cato
C-James
PF-Lee
SF-Jeffries
SF-Balkman
SG-Nate
PG-Francis (will probably be bought out)
PG-M. Collins

Not bad. Webber and Ray Allen over Frye and Crawford is a no brainer. We still need another trade or two to clean up the glut (combined with the likely buy out of Francis), but it's a big improvement. Plus, adding Ray Allen would actually make the team more watchable.

I don't think that deal will happen, it doesn't co-exist with the youth movement the Knicks are in. Besides, Ray Allen is past him prime, and he's often bitten by the injury bug these days. I think the solution is to get rid of Steph once his contract is up instead of acquiring a has been like Ray Allen. He's nowhere close to being a franchise player, heck I don't even know if he's going to the All-Star game this year, is he ?