Posted by rain:

I was at the Seattle game.. and DLee was very, very impressive. With he and Jeffries on the floor, surrounding Curry.. we have a very flexible, cohesive, ball moving front court. His passing is excellent for a big man. No.. he is not Dwight Howard.. but he is very good at all the intagible areas of the game.. a perfect complement to Curry. He does more in the open court, is a better passer, and equal rebounder to Oak. Where he is behind Oak.. is interior defense (which he'll learn.. he's a better athlete) and the mid-range J. He makes great plays and doesn't take a possession off. NY is starved for this type of smart, athletic, hustling player.

Posted by fishmike:

holfresh, you either havent been reading, or have been reading too much into things.

The team DOES play best when David Lee is on the floor. Thats a statistical fact.

http://www.82games.com/0607/0607NYK.HTM

Look at this page, and lets talk about what these numbers mean. Each player has a +/- for when they are on the court, off the court and net.

Equally important is the number of minutes as these stats can certainly be skewed. So lets just focus on the core players, or guys that have played more than 60% of minutes of all the Knick games.

Thats Marbure 73%, Crawford 74%, Curry at 68% and Lee at 61%

of all these players the only one the Knicks are + in point differential with on the floor is Lee with +2.9

Equally interesting is that off all these players the Knicks play the WORST when Lee is off the floor.

Ive been saying for awhile that Lee's impact on the game is exceeded by his very solid stats. He's become a premier rebounder in the NBA. He's an excellent passer. He makes hustle plays that impact the game, and plays hard on defense.

Now those are my opinions. What is not my opinion is that when Lee is on the floor the Knicks play their best ball. When Lee is off the floor the Knicks play their worst ball. Those are facts, regardless of what you think or what you think you see.

Posted by holfresh:



Those stats also says that the Knicks are better when Marbs, Curry and Craw are on the bench...We all know that to be true...According to those stats the players that should get most minutes are Cato, Lee, Francis and Nate...Makes all the sense in the world....

Posted by Queeniepop:

The point is that OF ALL THE MINUTES PLAYED...the players with the most mins are on the floor when we are up and down, quarter to quarter. Players who see a lower percentage of minutes played do not endure the DOWNS of the games as much because they are on the floor at the end of quarters or in garbage time, when one team has a huge lead over the other. Therefore if Cato or Nate scores five points in a 4th Q blowout and we outscore our opponent, there +/- goes up versus Marbs, Craw and Curry who endure 67-75% of that game, while Nate endures only 25-30% of the game.

Why dont u get past the Knicks homepage on 82games.com and see which floor units play the most minutes and give us the best chance of winning versus individual stats. I am sure that Nate and Cato will bring us above .500 with their 30% and 4% respective minutes.

Marbury-Crawford-Lee-Curry-Frye

108 mins/50% winning percentage
effective FG 51.7%
effective FG's allowed 49.7%
ft attempts +40
rebounds 101%

Posted by BasketballJones:

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