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Who is the Knicks' best player?


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Bonn1997
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Which player has had the most positive impact on games this season?
David Lee
Eddy Curry
Stephon Marbury
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Jamal Crawford
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gunsnewing
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1/7/2007  6:53 PM
I just can't choose between Lee & Curry. It would easily be the bigman Curry if he just showed some signs of playing defense
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1/7/2007  6:55 PM
eddy curry by far. A double double is one thing, but saying lee is the knicks best player is like saying charles oakley was the knicks best player during the ewing years.

Just a matter of how you define best.

Curry is putting up all star numbers over a long period of time.

I love lee, but he's an awesome role player (rebounds, put backs, HUSTLE).

But you're talking about the best player, and if you get over hating isiah and curry and unprotected draft picks, it'll jump out at you.

Eddy Curry is currently the best knicks player.
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1/7/2007  6:56 PM
lee doesn't even get single teamed. He's generally left wide open.

Curry is double and triple covered (sometimes without the ball).

But hey, I'm sure there will be a few posters that will try to rig it.

But let's not get silly. Right now, it's curry (oops, already said that, sorry)
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1/7/2007  7:09 PM
I gave the slight edge to Curry. I love Lee but he doesn't excel at anything other than rebounding. And that is not a knock on Lee he's the ultimate glue player every teams wishes they had. But saying Lee is our best player is kinda like saying Oakley was our best player

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01-07-2007 7:14 PM]
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1/7/2007  7:09 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

eddy curry by far. A double double is one thing, but saying lee is the knicks best player is like saying charles oakley was the knicks best player during the ewing years.

He would have been if we didn't have Ewing! (and no, Eddy Curry is no Ewing; don't even go there!)

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-07-2007 7:10 PM]
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1/7/2007  7:11 PM
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1/7/2007  7:15 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by babyKnicks:

eddy curry by far. A double double is one thing, but saying lee is the knicks best player is like saying charles oakley was the knicks best player during the ewing years.

He would have been if we didn't have Ewing! (and no, Eddy Curry is no Ewing; don't even go there!)

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 01-07-2007 7:10 PM]

nice try, but trust me, I'm not going there, but lee is no Oakley, so don't even go there.

Curry is to Lee as Ewing is to Oakley. How's that?
Or you saying Lee is Ewing to Curry's Oakley?

What situation would put the knicks at a bigger disadvantage, Lee going down with an injury or Curry?

Unfortunately for you, neither marbury or Curry were suspended by the brawl, so they had just as much to do with those wins as lee.

btw...I FUKCING LOVE LEE!!! But curry is better.
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1/7/2007  7:19 PM
You get a couple more FGs from Curry (2.3 per 48 min). Otherwise, you get more in every conceivable aspect of the game from Lee, including almost seven more rebounds per 48 min. You obviously get more hustle and intangibles that don't show up in the box score from Lee too. And Lee is better (or less bad) at defense than Curry.
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1/7/2007  7:22 PM
shooting percentage. focus of other teams defense.

to me, that makes you the best player.

The other team generally double teams your BEST PLAYER.

e.g. we double teamed ray allen.

I think that alone answers your question bonny.

But let's just keep riding the lee popularity train to 12,000 posts.
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1/7/2007  7:24 PM
Eddy Curry is this teams best scorer but best player? I don't think so. Myself, I chose Lee since I feel he does the most things well on this team.
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1/7/2007  7:25 PM
Who is the better player to have on the floor in the clutch? In that sense I would say that they are equally important. Lee's offensively rebounding is outstanding. Curry has been huge late in games when we've needed him. The games that are lost are lost in the 1st quarter for other reasons

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01-07-2007 7:27 PM]
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1/7/2007  7:41 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Eddy Curry is this teams best scorer but best player? I don't think so. Myself, I chose Lee since I feel he does the most things well on this team.

Outside of rebounding..What else does Lee do well??

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1/7/2007  7:48 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Eddy Curry is this teams best scorer but best player? I don't think so. Myself, I chose Lee since I feel he does the most things well on this team.

Outside of rebounding..What else does Lee do well??


Passing, hustle, keeping balls alive, boxing out. I'd say the only thing he doesn't do well is score. I'd say Lee is average to above average at every category, aside from rebounding, where he's excellent.
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1/7/2007  7:52 PM
Actually, I think Marbury deserves more love. We all know his negatives but he is this teams best basketball player when you are looking at physical ability alone
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1/7/2007  7:53 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Eddy Curry is this teams best scorer but best player? I don't think so. Myself, I chose Lee since I feel he does the most things well on this team.

Outside of rebounding..What else does Lee do well??


Passing, hustle, keeping balls alive, boxing out. I'd say the only thing he doesn't do well is score. I'd say Lee is average to above average at every category, aside from rebounding, where he's excellent.

Marbury is better at scoring, defense,passing,court awareness,hustle and overall better player...

More is also ask of Marbury...

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1/7/2007  7:55 PM
Posted by holfresh:



Marbury is better at scoring, defense,passing,court awareness,hustle and overall better player...

More is also ask of Marbury...


Check my previous post Hollie.
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1/7/2007  7:56 PM
the knicks most important player right now is eddy.

but the knicks best player is still marbury.
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1/7/2007  8:14 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Eddy Curry is this teams best scorer but best player? I don't think so. Myself, I chose Lee since I feel he does the most things well on this team.

Outside of rebounding..What else does Lee do well??


Passing, hustle, keeping balls alive, boxing out. I'd say the only thing he doesn't do well is score. I'd say Lee is average to above average at every category, aside from rebounding, where he's excellent.

He's getting a double double without having any plays called for him. He's very effective on offense. He's a very good passer. He doesn't turn the ball over and he's pretty good at steals for a big man. I wouldn't even agree with the part that he doesn't score well. I think 11 points off the bench at 61% FG is very good.
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1/7/2007  8:15 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

eddy curry by far. A double double is one thing, but saying lee is the knicks best player is like saying charles oakley was the knicks best player during the ewing years.

Just a matter of how you define best.

Curry is putting up all star numbers over a long period of time.

I love lee, but he's an awesome role player (rebounds, put backs, HUSTLE).

But you're talking about the best player, and if you get over hating isiah and curry and unprotected draft picks, it'll jump out at you.

Eddy Curry is currently the best knicks player.
your right... that is silly. Ewing was a top 50 NBA player of all time, and he played both ends of the court. Did you know that the game is played on both ends? This isnt football where you only play to one goal.

you guys arent watching when you talk about how great Eddy is. The numbers dont lie.


Ewing? Even RVHoss isnt dumb enough to compare Eddy to Ewing.

Ewing anchored the Knick defense FIRST. He was the hoya destroya. He averaged 3-4 blocks a game. He was also one of the best rebounders (especially defensive) rebounders in the game. You didnt get 2nd chances with Ewing in the game. With Eddy in the game you get dunks on offensive rebounds.

So how do you define best player? Is it potential? production?

Right now Lee is the most productive player, because when he's in the line up the Knicks outscore their opponents.

That doesnt happen with Eddy on the floor. Sorry this truth is so disturbing
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1/7/2007  8:17 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Eddy Curry is this teams best scorer but best player? I don't think so. Myself, I chose Lee since I feel he does the most things well on this team.

Outside of rebounding..What else does Lee do well??


Passing, hustle, keeping balls alive, boxing out. I'd say the only thing he doesn't do well is score. I'd say Lee is average to above average at every category, aside from rebounding, where he's excellent.

He's getting a double double without having any plays called for him. He's very effective on offense. He's a very good passer. He doesn't turn the ball over and he's pretty good at steals for a big man. I wouldn't even agree with the part that he doesn't score well. I think 11 points off the bench at 61% FG is very good.

I really think David Lee is a very important part if the Knicks...If the Knicks will have success this season, lee has to be involved...But I won't get carried away saying he is the best player...Marbs and Curry are better...

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