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JesseDark
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12/28/2006  4:24 PM
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President of Basketball Operations Jerry West announced today that Mike Fratello has been relieved of his head coaching duties.
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12/28/2006  4:28 PM
Who's Tony Barone? Has he ever coached before? I liked Fratello. I always thought he did well with what he had.
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12/28/2006  4:44 PM
So mike was fired for pau getting hurt?

I think they jumped the gun. Maybe they want to try a open up the game with a different scheme?

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12/28/2006  4:45 PM
Article says he is director of player personel, don't know if he has any coaching experience. That doesn't always mean anything, look at Van Gundy.
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12/28/2006  4:45 PM
fratello really got the shaft. they're trying to sell the team so tehy couldn't make any trades, so the coach is the guy who's gotta go to change things up, i guess.
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12/28/2006  4:47 PM
Tony Barone was the head coach of Creighton University for a span right before they started appearing in college post-season tournaments. I think he had a interim tag with some NBA team at one point in time.
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12/28/2006  4:49 PM
Fratello got jobbed. And West is talking a walk soon.

The Grizz are looking at some rough times ahead. Being stuck in the Southwest Division doesn't help them either.
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12/28/2006  4:57 PM
the icing on the cake has to be that wiz game where washington scored 77 points at halftime..

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12/28/2006  6:18 PM
Posted by Ira:

Who's Tony Barone? Has he ever coached before? I liked Fratello. I always thought he did well with what he had.


Meet Tony Barone and his assistant "Knuckles".
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Posted by Ira:

Who's Tony Barone? Has he ever coached before? I liked Fratello. I always thought he did well with what he had.
sounds like an italian rapper from the vill. memphis has a thing for I..talians huh? or maybe it's just west.
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12/28/2006  7:13 PM
He has a video out.


Him circa 2003
http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/news/post_draft_barone_030626.html


I'm guessing he's the short fat guy.
http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/fan_zone/barone_live_chat-050907.html

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Posted by Masterplan:

fratello really got the shaft. they're trying to sell the team so tehy couldn't make any trades, so the coach is the guy who's gotta go to change things up, i guess.


am i missing something here? the Grizzlies had a 6-24 record. that's just horrible regardless if their star player's been injured or not this season. God forbid the Knicks had that bad a start to the season. i think we'd see threads calling for the team to be blown up, Dolan to sell the team, the GM to be fired, the fans to boycott the games... nevermind, those threads show up here on a daily basis already.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Masterplan:

fratello really got the shaft. they're trying to sell the team so tehy couldn't make any trades, so the coach is the guy who's gotta go to change things up, i guess.


am i missing something here? the Grizzlies had a 6-24 record. that's just horrible regardless if their star player's been injured or not this season. God forbid the Knicks had that bad a start to the season. i think we'd see threads calling for the team to be blown up, Dolan to sell the team, the GM to be fired, the fans to boycott the games... nevermind, those threads show up here on a daily basis already.

i don't know what went on in memphis, although it's looking more like fratello was losing the players and had it coming. i was just saying that if memphis wanted to make any change at all in response to the record, it would have to be the coach because they can't move players with ownership in flux.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Masterplan:

fratello really got the shaft. they're trying to sell the team so tehy couldn't make any trades, so the coach is the guy who's gotta go to change things up, i guess.


am i missing something here? the Grizzlies had a 6-24 record. that's just horrible regardless if their star player's been injured or not this season. God forbid the Knicks had that bad a start to the season. i think we'd see threads calling for the team to be blown up, Dolan to sell the team, the GM to be fired, the fans to boycott the games... nevermind, those threads show up here on a daily basis already.


I agree that 6-24 is bad but there has been alot of stuff he had to overcome. DOn't forget with the Battier trade he had to depend on rookies to fill Gasol's shoes. And since Gasol came back it is taking him a while to work back into shape.

He didn't have a totally raw deal, but he also didn't get every chance he should have,IMO.
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I agree that 6-24 is bad but there has been alot of stuff he had to overcome. DOn't forget with the Battier trade he had to depend on rookies to fill Gasol's shoes. And since Gasol came back it is taking him a while to work back into shape.

He didn't have a totally raw deal, but he also didn't get every chance he should have,IMO.

when the trade was made people were lauding Jerry West for having the foresight to trade for a talented young player like Rudy Gay in exchange for a role playing veteran like Battier... was Battier going to carry that team when Gasol was out? i highly doubt it... so why are we giving Fratello a pass for his team playing like crap all year long? would any Knick coach have been given a pass under similar circumstances? i sincerely doubt it.

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Posted by TMS:
Posted by joec32033:

I agree that 6-24 is bad but there has been alot of stuff he had to overcome. DOn't forget with the Battier trade he had to depend on rookies to fill Gasol's shoes. And since Gasol came back it is taking him a while to work back into shape.

He didn't have a totally raw deal, but he also didn't get every chance he should have,IMO.

when the trade was made people were lauding Jerry West for having the foresight to trade for a talented young player like Rudy Gay in exchange for a role playing veteran like Battier... was Battier going to carry that team when Gasol was out? i highly doubt it... so why are we giving Fratello a pass for his team playing like crap all year long? would any Knick coach have been given a pass under similar circumstances? i sincerely doubt it.

i don't think people are giving him a pass so much as feeling uncomfortable judging him on 1/3 of a season missing his best player
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Posted by Masterplan:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by joec32033:

I agree that 6-24 is bad but there has been alot of stuff he had to overcome. DOn't forget with the Battier trade he had to depend on rookies to fill Gasol's shoes. And since Gasol came back it is taking him a while to work back into shape.

He didn't have a totally raw deal, but he also didn't get every chance he should have,IMO.

when the trade was made people were lauding Jerry West for having the foresight to trade for a talented young player like Rudy Gay in exchange for a role playing veteran like Battier... was Battier going to carry that team when Gasol was out? i highly doubt it... so why are we giving Fratello a pass for his team playing like crap all year long? would any Knick coach have been given a pass under similar circumstances? i sincerely doubt it.

i don't think people are giving him a pass so much as feeling uncomfortable judging him on 1/3 of a season missing his best player


add Gasol to the team & how many more games do you think they win? just curious.
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Posted by TMS:
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I agree that 6-24 is bad but there has been alot of stuff he had to overcome. DOn't forget with the Battier trade he had to depend on rookies to fill Gasol's shoes. And since Gasol came back it is taking him a while to work back into shape.

He didn't have a totally raw deal, but he also didn't get every chance he should have,IMO.

when the trade was made people were lauding Jerry West for having the foresight to trade for a talented young player like Rudy Gay in exchange for a role playing veteran like Battier... was Battier going to carry that team when Gasol was out? i highly doubt it... so why are we giving Fratello a pass for his team playing like crap all year long? would any Knick coach have been given a pass under similar circumstances? i sincerely doubt it.

I am not giving him a pass. Not in the least. But all I am saying is that without Gasol the team is not good. Especially with Eddie Jones on a fast decline.
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12/29/2006  11:52 AM
joe, see above question... curious to know your opinion on it as well.
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Posted by TMS:
Posted by Masterplan:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by joec32033:

I agree that 6-24 is bad but there has been alot of stuff he had to overcome. DOn't forget with the Battier trade he had to depend on rookies to fill Gasol's shoes. And since Gasol came back it is taking him a while to work back into shape.

He didn't have a totally raw deal, but he also didn't get every chance he should have,IMO.

when the trade was made people were lauding Jerry West for having the foresight to trade for a talented young player like Rudy Gay in exchange for a role playing veteran like Battier... was Battier going to carry that team when Gasol was out? i highly doubt it... so why are we giving Fratello a pass for his team playing like crap all year long? would any Knick coach have been given a pass under similar circumstances? i sincerely doubt it.

i don't think people are giving him a pass so much as feeling uncomfortable judging him on 1/3 of a season missing his best player


add Gasol to the team & how many more games do you think they win? just curious.

they won 49 last season. they also gambled on gay's upside over battier's solid play so on the season i'd expect them to be around .500. in 30 games probably less since i'd assume their youth would come on toward the end. so maybe 12-15 wins by now with gasol healthy?

honestly i haven't really followed the team since we played them opening night. are damon stoudamire and eddie jones still hobbling? in any case, today's Daily Dime mentions that fratello may have lost the players, so maybe his firing wasn't just an overreaction to a (very) bad start. at least they have their pick this year, unlike when they gave detroit the #2.

i've consistently been against knee-jerk firing of coaches. here more than around the league simply because i know more about this team than any other. i've advocated giving IT the whole year as promised, even when it looked bleak, if you were curious.
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