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TrueBlue
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12/24/2006  6:50 PM
This guy currently has a 30gm streak going where in every game his turnovers have outnumbered his assist. I looked this over several times and was at least expecting to catch one game where they canceled each other out but this isn't the case.


I just can't get over such a staggering stat. I mean is this even possible?


That's why Curry's scoring prowess has to be kept in context.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 8:17 PM]
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12/24/2006  6:55 PM
He's a center. Probably half of the starting centers in the NBA share the same stat.

I could see if he was a guard or small forward; and it would be great if it did even out; but most centers are not known for there dishing out assist.
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12/24/2006  7:08 PM
^^^ I know.............. what are you talking about????? I would bet most centers in the league have this "streak" going. It's not they aren't know for assists, it's that the don't get assists and they turnovers for three second calls.

[Edited by - anji on 12-24-2006 7:09 PM]
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12/24/2006  7:16 PM
This guy currently has a 30gm streak going where in every game his turnovers have outnumbered his assist.

Eddy is bad with his assists but lets keep our complaints in perspective. Every young center has this problem. And I think Eddy's assists numbers will go up when he starts to see the open man. Channing is starting to boost the assists already. Wait till Q joins in. In the meantime, check out these stats up until now in the season.

Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Amare Stoudamire: 14 assists, 60 to's
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12/24/2006  7:17 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistics?stat=nbaassists&qual=true&sort=asts&league=nba&split=0&season=2007&seasontype=2&avg=none&pos=c

I went all the way down to Emeka Okafor on this list. Now not all these players are true centers but I didn't find not 1 center on this list up to Okafor(ranked 22nd more than half BTW) who has such a streak going.
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Posted by Anji:

^^^ I know.............. what are you talking about????? I would bet most centers in the league have this "streak" going. It's not they aren't know for assists, it's that the don't get assists and they turnovers for three second calls.

[Edited by - anji on 12-24-2006 7:09 PM]

That's not true. I think Eddy has the worst assist/TO ratio out of any every day play in the entire league (combined with close to the worst defense too).
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Posted by Silverfuel:
This guy currently has a 30gm streak going where in every game his turnovers have outnumbered his assist.

Eddy is bad with his assists but lets keep our complaints in perspective. Every young center has this problem. And I think Eddy's assists numbers will go up when he starts to see the open man. Channing is starting to boost the assists already. Wait till Q joins in. In the meantime, check out these stats up until now in the season.

Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Amare Stoudamire: 14 assists, 60 to's

I'm not talking about the TO's outnumbering the asssists as a whole. We all know a center can have 1 gm of say 6TO's and no assists, which inflates the ratio. I'm talking about playing 30gms, where in each game the TO's outnumbered the assist, not even breaking even.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 6:22 PM]
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12/24/2006  7:22 PM
Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Those guys have roughly 2 turnovers for every one assist. Eddy has about TEN for every assist. That's a HUGE difference. If Eddy could pass like those guys, defenses wouldn't throw double and tripple teams at him as often (because they'd pay for it).
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Posted by Bonn1997:
Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Those guys have roughly 2 turnovers for every one assist. Eddy has about TEN for every assist. That's a HUGE difference. If Eddy could pass like those guys, defenses wouldn't throw double and tripple teams at him as often (because they'd pay for it).


Yep you are correct. What cracks me up about Curry is he'll give his gaurds a freakin death stare if they miss him in the post but what about him finding the open cutter or spotted up shooter. Nope instead he either gets stripped, stays in the lane too long instead of coming out and reposting, barrels over his man, kicks it out to a teammate who isn't in position to make a play.
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12/24/2006  7:46 PM
100 T/O's divided by 21 Assists is 10????



Is this were we are after three down games from Eddy since the streak SeatsBlue??? We are actually back here already???




[Edited by - anji on 12-24-2006 7:49 PM]
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Posted by Anji:

100 T/O's divided by 21 Assists is 10????



Is this were we are after two down games from Eddy SeatsBlue??? We are actually back here already???

[Edited by - anji on 12-24-2006 7:47 PM]


Stop babbling and stay on point with the topic on hand we're talking about a streak specific to Curry.
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12/24/2006  7:59 PM
Unless Eddy Curry is trade to a team with jumpshooters or he get's some more on his team or he becomes Yao passing wise, he will probably get 3 to's every game because he get's so many touches and not get 3 assists in any one game.

What else is there to talk about????
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Posted by Anji:

Unless Eddy Curry is trade to a team with jumpshooters or he get's some more on his team or he becomes Yao passing wise, he will probably get 3 to's every game because he get's so many touches and not get 3 assists in any one game.

What else is there to talk about????



So are you saying Zeke assemled a roster not condusive to building around Curry?
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12/24/2006  8:44 PM
Posted by Anji:

100 T/O's divided by 21 Assists is 10????



Is this were we are after three down games from Eddy since the streak SeatsBlue??? We are actually back here already???




[Edited by - anji on 12-24-2006 7:49 PM]
If it's now 5 to 1, congrats! He's the worst in the league but by a smaller margin!

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12/24/2006  9:05 PM
His passing is still poor but it's getting better.
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1) He gave Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls. He missed every one. Is that on Curry? Curry already has more assists than he had all last season.
2) Bonn is spreading mis information. Curry does not have the worst turnover to assist ratio in the league.
3) if you look at the 100 worst assists to turnover guys in the league you will find quite a few very good players!
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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Posted by Silverfuel:
This guy currently has a 30gm streak going where in every game his turnovers have outnumbered his assist.

Eddy is bad with his assists but lets keep our complaints in perspective. Every young center has this problem. And I think Eddy's assists numbers will go up when he starts to see the open man. Channing is starting to boost the assists already. Wait till Q joins in. In the meantime, check out these stats up until now in the season.

Yao Ming: 56 assists, 103 to's
Dwight Howard: 48 assists, 100 to's
Chris Bosh: 38 assists, 51 to's
Illgauskus: 33 assists, 54 to's
Amare Stoudamire: 14 assists, 60 to's

Curry: 21 assists, 100 turnovers
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Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

1) He gave Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls. He missed every one. Is that on Curry? Curry already has more assists than he had all last season.
2) Bonn is spreading mis information. Curry does not have the worst turnover to assist ratio in the league.
3) if you look at the 100 worst assists to turnover guys in the league you will find quite a few very good players!


One really shouldn't use last yr as a basis for comparison. Why not go back another yr or 2 when he had 68 assist total in 03-04, which still isn't even 1ast/gm. He's well behind his 03-04 pace with improved offensive game. Usually if a player's offensive games improves so should his assists.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 8:28 PM]
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When Curry gives Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls and he clanks every shot what is Curry to do? If he gives a guy a wide open look and the guy doesnt have the ability or confidence to hit the shot so he drives how is that on Curry? Why do you look for stats to support your hatred for Curry?

Curry is averaging .7 assists per game.
Lee is averaging 1.5 assists
Frye is averaging .5
Jeffries averages 1
Malik averages .6
Balkman averages .7
Cato averages 0
James averages 0

So what is the point here? When Marbury and Jcraw shoot 38% and probably much lower from outside how many assists are there going to be? Ofcourse he had more assists as a Bull. They had some outside shooters.

I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

When Curry gives Marbury 3 wide open looks vs the Bulls and he clanks every shot what is Curry to do? If he gives a guy a wide open look and the guy doesnt have the ability or confidence to hit the shot so he drives how is that on Curry? Why do you look for stats to support your hatred for Curry?

Curry is averaging .7 assists per game.
Lee is averaging 1.5 assists
Frye is averaging .5
Jeffries averages 1
Malik averages .6
Balkman averages .7
Cato averages 0
James averages 0

So what is the point here? When Marbury and Jcraw shoot 38% and probably much lower from outside how many assists are there going to be? Ofcourse he had more assists as a Bull. They had some outside shooters.



You don't show up in any threads more prevelant than Curry threads, which is more damning of your blind lust/mancrush than someone else's hate. This is taking into consideration multiple boards BTW. Always got to throw that Hate word out there don't you. It's comical that you'll go as far as to sell out other players on his team to make Curry appear unjustifiably victimized/villanized. This stat is staggering no matter how much you play Kevin Costner to Curry's Whitney Houston. I bet you can't even name one shooter on the Bulls 03-04 team that Curry played with that's appreciably better than who he's currently playing with. I bet it had more to do with Skiles teaching him how to find his teammates better and his coaching scheme vs Zeke's force feeding Curry, very little accountability to do anything else scheme. Not until a couple games ago did Zeke get the balls enough to bench Curry.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-24-2006 9:05 PM]
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