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SugarRayRichardson
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12/23/2006  12:42 PM
I cant think of any team in the NBA that has 3 bigs age 23-24 like Curry, Frye and Lee. Their last 2 games they have dominated other teams.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/23/2006  1:34 PM
You can bash Isiah for a lot things, but getting those 3 isn't one of them. I think overall the young Forwards and Center he's brought are pretty solid. Jared, Q and Balkman round out a VERY strong group. Going Forward I can see them jelling and getting even stronger.
If he can keep developing these guys and find a way to work his rotation right, no one is gonna be laughing at him or this team anymore.
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12/23/2006  1:43 PM
Just keep starting them even when Jeffries and Q are back.
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12/23/2006  2:17 PM
Lee seems to have a way of making the other two guys look a lot better. If Curry and Frye can keep being effective at the same time (and for a while it was looking like it was a bit implausible) then you do have to seriously watch out.
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12/23/2006  2:24 PM
BenchFrye when JJ2 gets back and run this lineup for about ten minutes a game atleast!!!!!
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12/23/2006  2:33 PM
Posted by VDesai:

Lee seems to have a way of making the other two guys look a lot better. If Curry and Frye can keep being effective at the same time (and for a while it was looking like it was a bit implausible) then you do have to seriously watch out.

I'm down with that. Keep the current lineup. Sub the others in slowly. If it ain't broke...
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12/23/2006  3:02 PM
It kills me that Isiah will probably break them up. I'd rather play them and make other teams adjust like the Celtics used to with Larry Bird at 3
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/23/2006  3:11 PM
People are always killing themselves on who is starting and who is not...We have three good young players in Curry, Frye and Lee...Wins are good but still not important...Developing this trio is paramount..If they continue to develop at this pace with some playoff experience they can be a force for many years to come...Starters and bench players will work themselves out in time...Kudos to Isiah for assembling this young front line...I hope Isiah gets another shot to really see if he can deliver a championship caliber team...Whats sad in all this is that Larry Brown could have done all this and more with this group...I would much rather to see him on the sidelines that Zeke but he just could live with just being coach...



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12/23/2006  3:22 PM
They really need to keep starting them.
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12/23/2006  3:25 PM
Can any other team put 3 bigs 24 and under on the court that are their level? I dont think so.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/27/2006  11:03 AM
We're still talking about Larry Brown? Man, some of you guys are traumatized.
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12/27/2006  11:12 AM
You need to put on of them on the bench its not fair or logical, for Frye and lee to try to guard the three position....especially when other teams are switching and the three can knock down the jumper.....

Frye is better served on offense being the backup power foward/center and gettin around 28 minutes a night. Lee needs close to 40 minutes.....

Q is needed to stretch the D, Jefferies is needed to defend threes along with Q to help take some of the stress off other players, we don't need jefferies to score just be active.....

Crawford and Nate need to be the sparks along with Balkman off the bench.

Marbury/Crawford
Q/Nate
Jefferies/Balkman
Lee/Frye
Curry

That team has a chance to win, because you are constantly putting a high energy player Q/JJ/Balkman out there to harrass the other teams allstar
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12/27/2006  1:02 PM
Posted by holfresh:

People are always killing themselves on who is starting and who is not...We have three good young players in Curry, Frye and Lee...Wins are good but still not important...Developing this trio is paramount..If they continue to develop at this pace with some playoff experience they can be a force for many years to come...Starters and bench players will work themselves out in time...Kudos to Isiah for assembling this young front line...I hope Isiah gets another shot to really see if he can deliver a championship caliber team...Whats sad in all this is that Larry Brown could have done all this and more with this group...I would much rather to see him on the sidelines that Zeke but he just could live with just being coach...




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[Edited by - holfresh on 12-23-2006 3:13 PM]
Who are you and what have you done with holfresh????


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SugarRayRichardson
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12/27/2006  1:02 PM
We will be in first place tomorrow so wins will become more important. :)
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/27/2006  1:55 PM
Can any other team put 3 bigs 24 and under on the court that are their level?

To answer your question

Toronto Raptors Chris Bosh 20pts 12 boards Andrea Bargnani 9 pts, Jorge Garbajosa 9pts 6 boards

Charlotte Bobcats Sean May 12pts 6 rebounds, Emeka Okafor 15pts 10, boards, Gerald Wallace 12pts 5 boards

Memphis Grizzles Pau Gasol 14 pts (though this isn't reflective of him), Rudy Gay 9pts 4 boards, Hakim Warrick 14 pts 5 boards.

Portland Trailblazers

Zach Randolph 25 pts 11 boards, Travis Outlaw 11 pts 4 boards, LaMarcus Aldridge 7 points 4 boards.
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12/27/2006  2:06 PM
Charlotte Bobcats Sean May 12pts 6 rebounds, Emeka Okafor 15pts 10, boards, Gerald Wallace 12pts 5 boards

much rather have Lee, Curry & Frye over those 3, but good job on your other choices (though Bosh, Gasol & Randolph are really the only players from those other choices that i'd prefer over any of our 3 front court players individually)
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12/27/2006  2:16 PM
If Okafor can ever develop a offensive game the sky is the limit for him. He's smart, hard-worker, and great defensive player he just needs to develop his post game. If Wallace could work on his outside shooting he could a legit small forward in this league. Sean May is rarity in today's game an acutal post player who plays with his back to the basket.

In terms of Portland I know most people don't really think of them because there basically out of sight out of mind but they have a decent young squad.

Right now in Memphis Warrick has been putting up decent numbers on a crappy team and Gay he has the tools just needs some more development.
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12/27/2006  2:16 PM
Posted by bettalaylow:
Can any other team put 3 bigs 24 and under on the court that are their level?

To answer your question

Toronto Raptors Chris Bosh 20pts 12 boards Andrea Bargnani 9 pts, Jorge Garbajosa 9pts 6 boards

Charlotte Bobcats Sean May 12pts 6 rebounds, Emeka Okafor 15pts 10, boards, Gerald Wallace 12pts 5 boards

Memphis Grizzles Pau Gasol 14 pts (though this isn't reflective of him), Rudy Gay 9pts 4 boards, Hakim Warrick 14 pts 5 boards.

Portland Trailblazers

Zach Randolph 25 pts 11 boards, Travis Outlaw 11 pts 4 boards, LaMarcus Aldridge 7 points 4 boards.

I'd rather have our 3 than the ones you mentioned plus only 1 of the ones you mentioned are all 24 and under as I asked for.

Garbosa is 29.
Gasol is 26.
Randolph is 25.


[Edited by - SugarRayRichardson on 12-27-2006 3:25 PM]
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/27/2006  2:22 PM
Posted by bettalaylow:

If Okafor can ever develop a offensive game the sky is the limit for him. He's smart, hard-worker, and great defensive player he just needs to develop his post game. If Wallace could work on his outside shooting he could a legit small forward in this league. Sean May is rarity in today's game an acutal post player who plays with his back to the basket.

In terms of Portland I know most people don't really think of them because there basically out of sight out of mind but they have a decent young squad.

Right now in Memphis Warrick has been putting up decent numbers on a crappy team and Gay he has the tools just needs some more development.


well i mean the same could be said about our 3 young guys too, no? if Curry or Frye could learn to play some help defense, or Lee could ever develop a midrange jumpshot, they'd all be Allstar calibre players
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12/27/2006  2:35 PM
Look the young bigs are pretty good. But none of them is a franchise player you can build around. From the groups that were already mentioned, Okafor, Bosh, and Gasol are franchise bigs who do rebound, play defense, block shots, lead the team, and for the most part go to guys, with the exception of Okafor, who makes up for it by being in incredible defensive player.

Lee is an awesome sidekick to a good center. Frye is just a scorer, I'm not one of his biggest fans, and never was. He is useful, but I'm not sure he is conventional player. He reminds of Gattling, that dude with a scar on his head who used to bounce from team to team every year. He was s great scorer at like 6 11, but he was no playoff team player.

Curry is just not going to cut it. His defense is just to horrible and rebounding and shotblocking are nonexistent. He does not score enough to make for contributing nothing other than scoring.
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