[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

When can we pleeeease get a shotblocker?
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
Allanfan20
Posts: 36008
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
12/19/2006  4:14 PM
We had 9 blocked shots last night, 2 from Frye and 4 from Cato. Neither of them are true shotblockers, but they both had good nights and that turned out to be huge for us last night and could have been the deciding factor. Catos and Frye's defense last night helped spark us big and for some reason, we are overlooking that.

Hey Isiah, shotblocking IS NOT overrated! Can you just please get out of that mindset? Please? Pretty please?
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
AUTOADVERT
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
12/19/2006  4:17 PM
trade Frye & Nate for Josh Smith.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Allanfan20
Posts: 36008
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
12/19/2006  4:19 PM
I think that deal may be so simple that it's just way to complex for Isiah to even try. I'll drink to that anyway.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
MS
Posts: 27064
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/28/2004
Member: #724
12/19/2006  4:19 PM
I would trade nate and frye for smith in all honesty if we are making a go with crawford we don't need nate, i would like something like a pick back. But Smith is so active around the basket and you could put him at the three next to jefferies/lee and curry and he could really help the defense.....

His game is only going to improve something i am not looking for from frye and robinson
MS
Posts: 27064
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/28/2004
Member: #724
12/19/2006  4:20 PM
i think atlanta takes that deal to even out their roster too
Allanfan20
Posts: 36008
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
12/19/2006  4:20 PM
OK, so the next quesion remains. Why would Atlanta do this?
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
12/19/2006  4:26 PM
i think Smith would solve alot of problems for this team & help to set & finalize the roles for the guys on this team.

C - Curry / Cato
PF - Lee / Jefferies / Malik
SF - Smith / Balkman
SG - Q Rich / Francis
PG - Marbury / Jamal / Collins
IA - BT
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
12/19/2006  4:27 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

OK, so the next quesion remains. Why would Atlanta do this?


it's not likely, but if they're happy w/Marvin Williams at the SF, it would make Smith a trade chip to use to get themselves a post scorer & PG... i think Frye & Nate could help their team alot to be honest, but Smith has the bigger upside to become a star in this game because of his sheer athletic ability... it's not all that uneven a trade though imo.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
MS
Posts: 27064
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/28/2004
Member: #724
12/19/2006  4:45 PM
Yea, Atlanta would really do well for itself if they talked to philly and took back millers contract and sent over their first round pick, and then did this deal with the knicks, they would make themselves playoff contenders and give them perhaps the strongest backcourt in the conference......

Miller/Claxton
Johnson/Nate
M. Williams/Childress
Sheldon Williams
Zaza/Channing

Or they can keep smith and just trade for miller and package a player, either way they are in a good position
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
12/19/2006  8:21 PM
Hmmm.....


Josh Smith for Nate and Frye.


I'd do it. Smith is in the same mold as AK47. He'll get you 13,8, 2 blocks, and a steal every game.

Problem is, why wouldn't Atlanta just start Smith at PF, with Williams at SF?


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
Allanfan20
Posts: 36008
Alba Posts: 50
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #542
USA
12/19/2006  8:44 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Hmmm.....


Josh Smith for Nate and Frye.


I'd do it. Smith is in the same mold as AK47. He'll get you 13,8, 2 blocks, and a steal every game.

Problem is, why wouldn't Atlanta just start Smith at PF, with Williams at SF?

Smith is a better athlete but AK47 is a MUCH better basketball player.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
Vmart
Posts: 31800
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 5/23/2002
Member: #247
USA
12/19/2006  9:52 PM
Frye is the shot blocker on the Knicks watch him and you will see that he is very capable of blocking 2-6 shot in a game.
babyKnicks
Posts: 22486
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/31/2006
Member: #1191
USA
12/19/2006  10:15 PM
Posted by Vmart:

Frye is the shot blocker on the Knicks watch him and you will see that he is very capable of blocking 2-6 shot in a game.

6 blocks in the last two games.
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
Elite
Posts: 26372
Alba Posts: 23
Joined: 12/30/2003
Member: #510
12/19/2006  10:27 PM
I have preposed frye for smith on atlanta boards before they laugh at me i doubt adding our little firecracker would matter.

What about Jamal+Frye for Josh + Capfiller
Bobby
Posts: 22094
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/18/2003
Member: #408
USA
12/19/2006  10:43 PM
looks like we may never have a chance at camby again
"Like they always say, New York is the Mecca of basketball,"I read that in Michael Jordan books my whole life and I played here in the Big East tournament, so it's always fun to play in the Mecca of basketball."---Rip Hamilton
nyk4ever
Posts: 41012
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
12/19/2006  11:26 PM
Posted by TMS:

trade Frye & Nate for Josh Smith.

That trade actually makes sense. Atlanta could use both Frye and Nate, although I'm not sure if they are ready to trade Josh Smith. This trade would allow the Hawks to shift Marvin Williams to SF and insert Frye at PF and keep Shelden Williams at C.

Nate
Joe Johnson
Marvin Williams
Frye
Shelden Williams

On the other hand for us, it brings us something we are sorely lacking and that's intimidation. We don't have one intimidater on this team defensively and Josh Smith is definitely that. While Josh is a very good defensive player, he also fills up the stat sheet. Imagine him starting at SF and Lee starting at PF, we would be cleaning up the boards night in and night out and Eddy would never have to seriously worry about rebounding and he can just score.

Like I said, I don't know if Atlanta is ready to do this but I think this trade would really clean up both teams but I'm not sure if Atlanta is ready to cut it with Josh, even if they are getting 2 young players in return in Frye and Nate.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
12/19/2006  11:59 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

Hmmm.....


Josh Smith for Nate and Frye.


I'd do it. Smith is in the same mold as AK47. He'll get you 13,8, 2 blocks, and a steal every game.

Problem is, why wouldn't Atlanta just start Smith at PF, with Williams at SF?

because they already have Pachulia & Shelden Williams who are better suited for the PF position... Smith could probably play the 4 because of his athleticism, but he'd be mismatched vs. more physical PF's in the league... Frye could be their low post scoring option at the C position.

again, i don't think this trade is likely because if they trade Smith, it would probably be for a bonafide Allstar calibre player in a larger deal, but i just think value wise, it's a pretty even up deal... just my opinion.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
Anji
Posts: 25523
Alba Posts: 9
Joined: 4/14/2006
Member: #1122
USA
12/20/2006  12:57 AM
I do not know for the life of me why you guys are aways creaming over a "Shot bocker" when Balkman, Frye and JJ2 will get blocks for this team. IF you believe the knicks won last because of the nine block shots they had, then that's fine. Personally I believe it was because of Utah not being able to hit any of the open shots they got and Balkman/Lee.

If this team can get a guy like ZO who absoultly controlls the paint and can completely shut down layups in the paint, that's fine. BUt most of this guys who get blocks in the league play on some of the worst defensive teams in the league and some of the easyest teams to score on. SHot bocking is very over rated.

[Edited by - anji on 12-20-2006 01:02 AM]
"Really, all Americans want is a cold beer, warm p***y, and some place to s**t with a door on it." - Mr. Ford
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
12/20/2006  12:59 AM
ok Isiah.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
bobs3304
Posts: 24827
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 7/5/2005
Member: #948
12/20/2006  1:34 AM
Ya I don't see Atlanta spreading out the talent.

They're probly looking to consolidate it b/c after this summer they probly won't be hitting the lottery anymore. Joe Johnsons becoming a franchise player.


Pure PG
Joe Johnson
Williams
All-Star Pf
S. Williams/Zaza


Josh Smith + filler for a Randolph or Gasol is always realistic...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
Page 1 of 2  1  2 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
When can we pleeeease get a shotblocker?
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy