I think we have to find a way to trade these two player to really improve. As much as i don't want to trade Frye, i think we need to deal him because of the development of Lee and Curry. I also think Frye's replacement off the bench should be a solid defensvie player/shot blocker to help compliment Curry and Lee. The two teams that stick out to me that may take both players are Minnesota and Denver. They may be the only two possibilities. Minn is the best option because they have multiple role players to return. If they don't get Iverson, Marbury may be their last chance to please Garnett. We could try and trade Marbury for Jaric, Hudson, and Griffin. Griffin would be a decent backup big man for this year until his contract expires. Also, we could try to send Frye in the deal and maybe bring back Foye, McCants, or this year's draft pick. I would really like to draft a play like Thaddeous Young or Marcus Williams to give us a young wing player to develop with the rest of our young players.

Denver is another option and we would have to take Kenyon Martin but i think it would be worth it. I don't know if they would take Marbury and Frye for Andre Miller and Martin but it may be worth a shot. I think the first deal is more likely tho. We could use our pick(or chicago's pick) plus a pick from Minn to move up. Teams may be looking for multiple picks because it looks like there will be a lot of depth in the draft. Getting a top 10 pick would be nice and would get us Young or Williams.

C Curry, Griffin, James
PF Lee, Rose
SF Jeffries, Young, Balkman
SG Richardson, Crawford, Jaric
PG Francis (or Crawford when Francis is out), Robinson, Collins

don't forget, Jared Jefferies is 1 of our best players according to Isiah... i guess that makes Frye that much more expendable.

Posted by MS:

those deals are terrible you would be better off cutting him and not adding future salary, thos players are not really an upgrade, and if you want to show progress, i think one of the main things we need to do is get both Crawford and Marbury off the team......

Crawford might be the dumbest player in basketball, his shot selection is worse than iversons and if you can get someone or cap relief for the kid you have too

Crawford hasn't had a consistant role since he's been in New York. Plus he's still young and very talented and can play both guard positions. On top of all this he's best friends with Curry and has great chemistry with him. I don't think he's the problem. It's obvious that removing Marbury from the whole equation will improve this team dramatically, and the only way to trade him is to move one of our young players with him.

i think we're a bit too dismissive of frye because of his slow start and injury. he's definitely more valuable than a throw-in to make a deal happen. let's get him back playing, ideally experimenting with his role, and see what we've got as a player, not just a trade piece. give the kid a shot.

NUTS!!!...You guys want to give up at 6' 11" potential 20 and 8 guy for nothing...NUTS!!!

[Edited by - holfresh on 12-13-2006 3:20 PM]

I think it is too early to decide what Frye can or cannot be. The kid has alot of talent and just got off to a slow start this year. He definitely has the potential to be a 18-20 and 8 rb player. You don't just give away solid PFs for nothing.

On the Hornets, for example... Frye could probably put up the numbers that we're seeing from David West (#18 overall, 2003 draft), technically a less skilled player. 17.4ppg/8.3rpg in 35mpg.

However, they've more or less decided that he's the first inside option for that team, and he doesn't get competition from Chandler to perform.

I think the Knicks have some excellent talent in reserve. It's a matter of us making a decision whether to use only half of Frye's potential (and be satisfied w/ him averaging 12ppg/7rpg) and allow Curry to be the dominant big man, or trade the 20/8 potential away and get better complimentary pieces around Curry, perhaps trading Frye & Balkman for a more complete/polished player, like a Richard Jefferson (not that that's gonna happen-- just an example).

MS blasts Crawford more than Islesfan blasts Isiah.

Lets keep Frye...If other teams want him is because they know he will flourish to a very good player..Isaiah Thomas nows that, and I do agree that Marbury is the problem.

I think Marbury is the problem in the garden because the booing is directed at him, but he has run the offense better and played better d than crawford, we really need him to get a few 20 point games under his belt i am not ready to give up on him

how do you figure he's played better D than Crawford when it's routinely his man that torches this team on a nightly basis? Crawford's been making hustle plays on defense & getting some big steals down the stretch of games... he's no defensive ace, but he's not as bad as you're making him out to be.