Don't you realize what Isiah is doing here?

He's not worrying about wins and losses as much as he is improving Curry's numbers. That's what he's going to go to Dolan with when it's time to judge "significant improvement".

That doesn't necessarily mean that the team will have improved. Everybody else's game is being sacrificed at the Curry altar. Anybody who doesn't immediately mesh with helping Curry get his is going to go by the wayside. It's already started with Frye.

But who cares, Isiah will worry about that after he gets his 3 year extension from Dolan. The only thing that matters now is getting Curry's numbers up, no matter that it's just a byproduct of Isiah playing him more minutes and forcing the ball to him so he gets more shots but isn't shooting better than last year.

honestly u prob right... But i jsut hope this means Lee starts cuz currys numbers are way better with him in

Oh my god! I did see this coming!

Ok, its not about wins or loses, its about Isiah, only Isiah, and the preservation of Isiah.

But what about the shift away from trying to hold up the idea that Franbury can carry this team and make the focal point out big man?

Is that so wrong?

Even if its the detrement of our bloated back court.

We have Lee and Curry emerging.

Is that so wrong?


[Edited by - nalod on 12-10-2006 5:55 PM]

Posted by Nalod:

Oh my god! I did see this coming!

Ok, its not about wins or loses, its about Isiah, only Isiah, and the preservation of Isiah.

But what about the shift away from trying to hold up the idea that Franbury can carry this team and make the focal point out big man?

Is that so wrong?

Even if its the detrement of our bloated back court.

We have Lee and Curry emerging.

Is that so wrong>

I guess when you throw a bunch of crap on the wall, something is going to stick.

The problem is that you're stuck with crap all over the place that you need to cleanup.

Um...thats a big picture.

Well, of course he is trying to save his job. Anybody would be trying to save their own job. But I don't see how feeding Curry the ball more is damaging everyone else's game. This team has to turn into something. It cannot keep switching identities every other game. IT has decided that running the offense through Curry (who shoots over 50%) is the team's best chance of winning, and your conclusion is that he could not possibly be doing that b/c he actually thinks it is best for the team. No, it must be for some selfish negative reason. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but your evaluation of the situation does not seem very objective to me.

Posted by TheGame:

Well, of course he is trying to save his job. Anybody would be trying to save their own job. But I don't see how feeding Curry the ball more is damaging everyone else's game.

Tell that to Frye.

I can see Isiah trying to use the development of Curry as his significant improvement rather than wins and losses.

But Curry is 24 with the most amount of upside on the team. With Curry playing as good as he is playing why wouldn't he want to force feed him and try and make him a stud big man. Eventually that will turn into wins.

How can you not see how much Curry has improved from last season. I know you want Isiah out of NY bad but still common be at least objective. Curry has been getting better position. His touch around the basket has been excellent. How many offensive fouls has he beend called for the last 9games?? He even passes out of the post once in a while. Am I wrong??? Has he not improved drasitcally in these areas.

If Larry Brown was doing the exact same thing there would be no complaints now would there. Larry Brown tried to force feed Curry the same exact way last season. Why didn't it work last season?? We have the same exact guards as last season.

With Curry playing at this high level is in the best intreset of the team in the long run to force feed him and turn him into a stud. If Isiah was only trying to save his job then he wouldn't have trusted Curry and tried to milk as many wins out of Marbury, Francis & Crawford and let them shoot shoot shoot. Last season with Curry not close to being ready is what I would have preferd. Even if we were mediocre since Curry only made us worse. This season is a different story.

Frye is a great shooter. So how is letting him shoot 15fters hurting him exactly?? Do you not see what the inside outside game Curry & Frye can present can do to teams. You double Curry down low with 2 biggs Frye now can nail open jumpers and make them pay. You keep a guy on Frye, Curry now gets single coverage. You use the SF to double on Curry now Jefferies, Balkman, Q have open lanes to cut to the paint or open jumpers if you position Curry correctly. I see that as a good plan.

Using Curry to pack in the paint opens up the outside for open 3s. How is that not a good game plan for present and future success as long as Curry is producing??

Last but not least what game plan would you rather have than this current one knowing that you aren't going to make any trades to weed out Marbury, Francis, James??

This thread just more exposes that fact that you are willing to bash or hate on anything that has to do with Isiah doing something good. Your more concerned with Isiah losing his job than the knicks becomeing a good team. But I can't hate on your since thats your way of believeing the knicks can eventually be good i guess.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by islesfan:

the numbers show that he's shooting about 40% more this year. That's why his scoring is up.

I think you are oversimplifying it. Of course he is scoring more because he is taking/making more shots but the positive is that he is taking more shots now than he did last year. We would win a lot more games if we take/make more shots. But improving skill has a lot to do with taking/making more shots. His skill has improved which is a huge positive.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 12-10-2006 6:11 PM]

If his skill is so much improved them why is his shooting percentage worse than last year? Shouldn't it be much better?

Posted by islesfan:

If his skill is so much improved them why is his shooting percentage worse than last year? Shouldn't it be much better?

isles, his FG% is practically the same! It was .563 last season and its .559 this season. Thats 0.004 off! Thats not even half a percent! With taking/making more shots, more mins and more points his FG% is basically where it was. Every single category there is an improvement and the FG% is just very slightly off and I mean, not even 1/2 a percent. Its basically the same, 56%.

And I never said his skill was "so much improved." I said it has improved which is why he is able to stay on the floor longer (less mins with foul trouble), and make more shots.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 12-10-2006 6:22 PM]

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by islesfan:

If his skill is so much improved them why is his shooting percentage worse than last year? Shouldn't it be much better?

isles, his FG% is practically the same! It was .563 last season and its .559 this season. Thats 0.004 off! Thats not even half a percent! With taking/making more shots, more mins and more points his FG% is basically where it was. Every single category there is an improvement and the FG% is just very slightly off and I mean, not even 1/2 a percent. Its basically the same, 56%.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 12-10-2006 6:20 PM]

But if he's so much better shouldn't his FG% be better?