I agree with every one of your points SergioNYK.

Elden will be tough to sign....it was discussed in the NYT forum that the Knicks will have to use part of their 4.5M exception to sign Milos, since he was a second rounder and does not qualify for the rookie scale the first rounders get. This doesn't leave the whole 4.5 for Elden. The Knicks used the 1M exception on Doleac this year and they can't use that one 2 years in a row. Any big name additions will have to be added via a trade.

Posted by falcindor:

Knicks have already signed Milos to a small contract, they hold his rights and could resign him without using their exception.

I don't think so. Show me one news article that states he has signed to a contract. The only way he signs without affecting the mid level exception is if it is for the league minimum...which I don't think is likely, especially with all the hype Chad Ford and Insider are giving him.

I want nothing to do with chris Marcus and a high pick. The guy hasnt even played 1 minute this year because of his ongoing foot problems.He is a felton spencer type and IF he gets healthy is only worthy of a risk pick--like 20+ We will NEVER EVER be able to sign Cambell for mid level because there are many teams that could offer him a bit more and a bit more is like 10-20mm dolars in basketball.


What we NEED to do is TRADE KT for a pick in the 8-9 range. We may have to take back a crappy player to do this-example Golden State has to many rookies and needs to dump Fortson. Im still hoping for a tier 1 draft choice i.e Milicic Anthony Lebron but IF not I would be willing to take two post players with talent and athletic ability that may need some nuturing in terms of body maturation. You cannot fix a team with a one year fix--- this team has been bad for two years now. If we were able to draft Okafor and Bosh and move our two 2ns rounders up into the 20 region--then you may look to take a Marcus -if not we are in DIRE need of athletes with young legs who can get to the hole. my favorite is dwayne wade

if we walked out of the draft with bosh wade and okafor along with milos--we have built a new foundation to integrate with the veteran players. Better yet if we get a tier 1 but Im not counting on it.

there is no guarantee that the knicks will spend more money in terms of the mid level. they are still way way wya over the cap and unless there is a player worthy of a three year mid level deal ---i doubt it will be used with all of the teams that have space--i believe it is 8 that can offer more.
IF we are lucky and if some smart moves are made like moving KT out for some young post legs--MAYBE we will be lucky enough to start the process again of getting a 7-8 seed and improving from y-y. If we had Amere we wouldnt be talking about this and I know if we draft Bosh it will take him two years to develop body wise but Im willing to be patient. Although he is not ready for the NBA there are very few players like Bosh and the ONLy way to get a player like that is draft him and get him in a pro weight room with real trainers.

just think if we did grab all three

we would have 4 athletic talents under 23
Okafor--6-9 255 21
Bosh 6-10 1/2 wing span 7-5 210 19
wade 6-4 200 21
Vujonic 6-4 180 23

the plan bosh has two years to learn and back up sprewell until his contracts runs out. Okafor can play center at times but is primarily a player that will take Dices place or just play alongside dice if he doesnt reinjure.

wade is a very good basketball player who is an exceptional athlete. He can play some PG or back up 2.


this whole deal of HOPINg for a free agent willing to take 4mm isnt going to make us better --it will not address the need to get younger. I mean we need a plan that integrates long and short term. Enough band aid fixes. Ill pray that were in position for a tier 1 and act accordingly if Im not. Bosh when all is said and done could end up at center I read that he grew a half inch at GT--he is now 6-10 1/2 bare foot--remember david robinsone went from 6-7 to 7-1 while he was at Navy. When Bosh hones his skills and his body gets stronger watch out. That like getting an 8-9 pick that really could go 1 if he was completely filled out.

I agree with Briggs about Marcus, the guy is an absolute bum. He's 7 foot 2, that's it. If you were to list his strengths, all it would say is "Size." He doesn't rebound, score, or defend exceptionally well.

The draft can go so many ways its not sensible to talk about it. The Grizzlies are playing better with Brown, the Nuggets will continue to play poorly, and who knows how the Knicks will do. Then with the lotto, they could get a pick 1-3, or from their record have a pick 5-9, and that range is so huge that its not sensible to talk about draft picks at this point.

I think Vujanic will fill in nice at PG and be able to play significant minutes, especially with Eisley and Ward both playing well, they could start but still have Vujanic get the significant minutes. I think Sergio said it, and I agree, the Knicks must trade Ward and Knight in a package. Their salary coming off really doesn't matter at this time with Spree, McDyess, Eisley, Anderson, Houston, and Weatherspoon still all having big contracts, if you could trade Knight and Ward for a serviceable player with 3 or less years on his contract, I'd do it. Also, by trading Ward you free up time for Vujanic at PG (who said in the Insider articles that he was unsure about coming over because of PT, so by trading Ward you definitely open up a bunch of time for him.)

I really don't think the Knicks will be real good next year, but if they get a top 5 pick, with McDyess coming back, and Vujanic coming over, in a few years they could be real good, but I don't think next year.

Im not arguing with you. Im from Connecticut. I watch the games. I just think he should wait another year. I dont think hes quite ready to make an immediate impact. I think hif he comes out early he will struggle to fit into the Nba games.

Vujanic is gonna take some time too. It takes time for foreign players to get adjusted look at Marco Jaric. Even Nash took a bit to get used to the NBA game. I think Vujanic may see miutes as a backup SG and PG his first year before the Knicks make him a starter.

Bosh still nobody knows the deal with him. At the end of the college season we will see how good he really is.

stats so far

Emeka Okafor 17 pts 13 rebounds 5.4 blocks .575FG% 1.5 steals 32 mts per game

Chris Bosh 15 pts 10.5 reb 2.1 assits 1 steal 1.5 blocks FG% 54
29 mts per

Dwyane Wade 25.6 6.2 reb 4.4 assits 2 steals 1 block FG% .60
32 mts a game

I dont quite like him either. I thought the Knicks might get him if they get a low pick.

He's an OK player but IMO he'll be just a role player in the NBA. There is nothing that he's really good at except for passing.

While Layden is still here... i will always sleep on the knicks...

don't sleep on the wizards!